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Any advice? Next 30 days... And beyond?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 07, 2011 at 11:01 PM

So, I'm a new girl here, and was just wondering a few things... Basically, what can I expect? This is my first time attempting to cut out excess carbohydrates, and I do know that you can experience... Withdrawals, for lack of better term. So, what is this like? How long did it last? And after that, how did you feel? Also, did you notice any changes in your body comp and appearance that early (such as acne, muscle/fat)...?

Any help would be wonderful! :D

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at 01:28 AM

Sounds delicious! Glad you felt satiated! It is so important and keeps us from looking through the cabinets for things that maybe we shouldn't have! Good luck! Jackie

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on November 08, 2011
at 06:06 PM

Ok, then I'd recommend you try starting your food day with meat and fat. For me, that inhibits the urge to binge but others have a different experience. Just feel your way as you go.

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on November 08, 2011
at 03:43 AM

Well, that is very true. I've had my share of that too... I went on a terribly uninformed diet once, looking to shed some weight... Restricted like crazy, and boy, it left me unhappier than I'd been in a long time. I'm not going to make that mistake anymore, I definitely learned from.

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on November 08, 2011
at 03:26 AM

It wasn't so much that you seemed like you were in that "can't have" mode, it's just a really common mindset that I see crop up a lot, so I thought I'd mention it considering that you're making big strides here. May all your meals bring you and yours as much joy.

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at 03:23 AM

Nope, I'm not overweight (122 lbs, 5'7") but I have a very skinny-fat body composition. I am hoping more to lose some fat, gain a fair amount of muscle (exercising will be included too, but not in the run for hours on the treadmill way it once was-- I absolutely hated it, really). I do have a tendency to overeat with carbs, and I used to have a binge disorder problem that was out of control. It wasn't healthy, and even though I'm not fat, my body was screaming from the inside for something better. I'm hoping this will be the right choice for me.

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on November 08, 2011
at 03:19 AM

Thank you for the advice. If I came off as being in denial, I surely didn't mean to, but I tend to get overzealous and less articulate when I'm excited. I just know that grains, and an abundance of carbs in general just leave me feeling sick, unhappy, and HUNGRY (for more carbs). I have had binging problems in past, and want to curb that. And I can say that my dinner tonight was completely satiating, and quite simple, like you're talking about. I served it to my dad as well, and he was impressed, which is saying something, because he eats a ton of breads/pastas and so on.

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at 03:14 AM

Thank you for the advice :) I appreciate it greatly. For dinner, I had scallops with a lemon butter (I am allowing for butter, but it's clarified/organic) and garlic sauce, and spinach. Boy was it good! And I feel completely full afterwards, so this is great. As far as carbs, I'm going to have sweet potatoes once in a while, because I absolutely love them, and fruits/vegetables too. This has got me all excited :P Teehee.

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at 02:33 AM

Well luckily, at least in my experience, fats and protein are very satiating and never make me feel bloated like carbs, so I hope you have the same experience! I can eat carbs (more of the grain based types not the starchy veg) and never feel sated and eat and eat and gain and gain and get bloated and feel gross, but totally different when I focus on fats and proteins with good fruit and veg. Best wishes!!

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on November 08, 2011
at 02:13 AM

I don't plan to go down extremely low carb, as I have a naturally rather high metabolism and do expend a lot of energy quickly. But I do know that it's easier for me to overeat carbohydrates than anything else, and if I have too much, I tend to feel gassy, sick to my stomach, and bloated. I've messed around with macronutrients in the past, and found that it's the one that I have to find the most balance with, which is why I think going paleo would be a solution :) I don't want to feel the need to eat and eat and eat, never being satiated anymore, you know?

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"Oh -- and one more thing... don't fall into the trap of trying to re-make the 'favorite foods list' from before Paleo out of paleo foods. It's a zero-sum game. They don't taste the same. Learn to cultivate NEW tastes, and use this as a time to try new recipes, and try REALLY SIMPLE foods -- down to the basics." I agree!

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on November 08, 2011
at 12:48 AM

First, may I recommend that you get away from the idea that you are -denying- yourself anything (not saying you are, but it tends to be part of the "diet" culture that clings to a lot of folks I've seen trying to make the transition). Instead, frame it in the context of "I am making food choices that make me feel better, and which I hope will leave me healthier". When we get into the mindset of denying ourselves stuff, it seems to me that somehow, our emotions start feeling deprived, and along about 3 months, we start asking ourselves if, maybe, we couldn't JUST THIS ONCE have this thing we've been denied... sometimes, that thing kicks our butts (like me with gluten!)... which is actually better than the times we make a bad choice and NOTHING happens (like my companion with french fries and potato chips)... because then, it's easier to justify returning to unhealthy eating habits, or not letting go of ones you've got.

Trust your body. Between month 1 and month 3, if you're persistent, your tastes will actually start to change, to some extent, and some things that tasted really good before won't taste so great -- unless we've convinced ourselves that we're denying ourselves this really great thing. As an example, most of the things I really used to enjoy (like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups) are now so horribly sweet I can't eat them -- When it comes to a battle of the brains, you can't fool yourself -- if you treat it like denial, your brain is going to keep that idea in there that if you just do this for such-and-such amount of time, eventually, you can go back to doing the BAD stuff with fewer repercussions. Unfortunately, it doesn't really work that way.

In terms of reducing carbs, you don't say WHY you're reducing carbs, but what you do with your body is really a huge experiment. Once you drop refined sugar and refined grains for 90 days, your body is going to change the way that it perceives those things, if you let it. I'd say, start out by increasing your sat fats a bit, and decreasing your carbs a bit, and work your way down to a level that you're comfortable with, and that feels good for your body.

If you're diabetic or pre-diabetic, or have a lot of weight to lose, IME, that's a different matter, and cutting carbs down to as close to zero as you can manage is important, at least for a while. You'll go through something nicknamed the Low-Carb Flu, while your body adjusts to using ketones for fuel. It lasted 2-4 weeks for me and my mate -- for me, it looked completely dependent on how much your previous diet was weighted to carbohydrates. It was a LOT harder for my heavy-starch/grain companion than it was for me (who preferred fat and meat anyway). I got through it in 2 weeks -- it took her a little over a month.

Oh -- and one more thing... don't fall into the trap of trying to re-make the 'favorite foods list' from before Paleo out of paleo foods. It's a zero-sum game. They don't taste the same. Learn to cultivate NEW tastes, and use this as a time to try new recipes, and try REALLY SIMPLE foods -- down to the basics. You'd be surprised how awesome it is to be able to put a home-cooked meal on the table in 20 minutes, because there's NOTHING fancy in there -- just good, nutritious food -- and knowing that you'll wake up tomorrow feeling even better, and having a better handle on your body. After a while, it just becomes second nature.

Cf4e7d927a48582cc22adbe59bfd0b2d

(753)

on November 08, 2011
at 03:43 AM

Well, that is very true. I've had my share of that too... I went on a terribly uninformed diet once, looking to shed some weight... Restricted like crazy, and boy, it left me unhappier than I'd been in a long time. I'm not going to make that mistake anymore, I definitely learned from.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on November 08, 2011
at 01:23 AM

"Oh -- and one more thing... don't fall into the trap of trying to re-make the 'favorite foods list' from before Paleo out of paleo foods. It's a zero-sum game. They don't taste the same. Learn to cultivate NEW tastes, and use this as a time to try new recipes, and try REALLY SIMPLE foods -- down to the basics." I agree!

Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

(12540)

on November 08, 2011
at 03:26 AM

It wasn't so much that you seemed like you were in that "can't have" mode, it's just a really common mindset that I see crop up a lot, so I thought I'd mention it considering that you're making big strides here. May all your meals bring you and yours as much joy.

Cf4e7d927a48582cc22adbe59bfd0b2d

(753)

on November 08, 2011
at 03:19 AM

Thank you for the advice. If I came off as being in denial, I surely didn't mean to, but I tend to get overzealous and less articulate when I'm excited. I just know that grains, and an abundance of carbs in general just leave me feeling sick, unhappy, and HUNGRY (for more carbs). I have had binging problems in past, and want to curb that. And I can say that my dinner tonight was completely satiating, and quite simple, like you're talking about. I served it to my dad as well, and he was impressed, which is saying something, because he eats a ton of breads/pastas and so on.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 07, 2011
at 11:40 PM

Speaking only for myself, primal/paleo isn't exclusively about restricting "excessive" carbs but about eliminating grains and highly processed carbs.

You don't look overweight in your snapshot, Kenzie, so feel your way in and give yourself some time to learn what works best for you.

The only reason I can think of to immediately cut way back on carbs is if you suspect you are having problems with them and aren't sure which ones are the problem.

Otherwise, enjoy whole foods and welcome to the community!

Cf4e7d927a48582cc22adbe59bfd0b2d

(753)

on November 08, 2011
at 03:23 AM

Nope, I'm not overweight (122 lbs, 5'7") but I have a very skinny-fat body composition. I am hoping more to lose some fat, gain a fair amount of muscle (exercising will be included too, but not in the run for hours on the treadmill way it once was-- I absolutely hated it, really). I do have a tendency to overeat with carbs, and I used to have a binge disorder problem that was out of control. It wasn't healthy, and even though I'm not fat, my body was screaming from the inside for something better. I'm hoping this will be the right choice for me.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on November 08, 2011
at 06:06 PM

Ok, then I'd recommend you try starting your food day with meat and fat. For me, that inhibits the urge to binge but others have a different experience. Just feel your way as you go.

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on November 08, 2011
at 05:47 AM

Get some really awesome Tupperware that doesn't leak.

When you first change up your diet it's easy to give in to junk food if you get really hungry when you are out and about. So making sure you have good food with you is helpful.

Best wishes :)

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on November 08, 2011
at 03:13 AM

Quick advice in no order:

Weigh your food if you don't already, I was severely underestimating what I was really eating. You know what your weaknesses are going in so tailor your eating to what will work for you, without making you crazy from missing something. Stay out of boring and familiar territory and use the opportunity to try new foods, seasonings, preparations.

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363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

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on November 07, 2011
at 11:36 PM

How many carbs do you plan on going down to in a given day? Are you going very low carb or just cutting out the grains and starches? If you are going very low carb so that you will enter ketosis, you may have a few days of brain fog and fatigue, but just stick with it and you will feel much better and your appetite will likely be reduced after that. As the other answerer responded, you will lose some water weight initially, and you will probably notice that you will feel less bloated in general, especially if coming off of a wheat and grain diet. Best wishes, Jackie

363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

(4642)

on November 08, 2011
at 02:33 AM

Well luckily, at least in my experience, fats and protein are very satiating and never make me feel bloated like carbs, so I hope you have the same experience! I can eat carbs (more of the grain based types not the starchy veg) and never feel sated and eat and eat and gain and gain and get bloated and feel gross, but totally different when I focus on fats and proteins with good fruit and veg. Best wishes!!

Cf4e7d927a48582cc22adbe59bfd0b2d

(753)

on November 08, 2011
at 03:14 AM

Thank you for the advice :) I appreciate it greatly. For dinner, I had scallops with a lemon butter (I am allowing for butter, but it's clarified/organic) and garlic sauce, and spinach. Boy was it good! And I feel completely full afterwards, so this is great. As far as carbs, I'm going to have sweet potatoes once in a while, because I absolutely love them, and fruits/vegetables too. This has got me all excited :P Teehee.

363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

(4642)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Sounds delicious! Glad you felt satiated! It is so important and keeps us from looking through the cabinets for things that maybe we shouldn't have! Good luck! Jackie

Cf4e7d927a48582cc22adbe59bfd0b2d

(753)

on November 08, 2011
at 02:13 AM

I don't plan to go down extremely low carb, as I have a naturally rather high metabolism and do expend a lot of energy quickly. But I do know that it's easier for me to overeat carbohydrates than anything else, and if I have too much, I tend to feel gassy, sick to my stomach, and bloated. I've messed around with macronutrients in the past, and found that it's the one that I have to find the most balance with, which is why I think going paleo would be a solution :) I don't want to feel the need to eat and eat and eat, never being satiated anymore, you know?

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on November 07, 2011
at 11:32 PM

Completely individual, people do better at different macronutrient ratios.

If you go low carb, expect to see a few pounds water weight lost pretty quickly.

After that, intra-week variations are very individual and in the long run it will depend entirely on your caloric deficit (assuming isonitrogenous diets).

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