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Paleo: Revenge of the Geeks?

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Created March 06, 2011 at 6:40 PM

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Is the paleo community full of nerds?

The Paleo community appears to be very diverse in the types of personalities it appeals to and attracts. We have a great many athletes and fitness enthusiasts (jocks), a noticeable percentage of beauty-obsessed ladies who are looking for ways to stay looking young and not fat for as long as they can, and we also have some geeks. I use geek in the best sense of the word to indicate someone who is passionate about one or many intellectual pursuits, and it looks like we have a number of very knowledgeable science types who see nutritional science as a practical and highly interesting application of their knowledge. The science-savvy members seem to garner a good deal of respect from the "jock and cheerleader" types for their ability to explain difficult scientific concepts that are essential for understanding the "how's" and "why's" of the paleo/evolutionary approach to nutrition, and rightly so.

So is that the ultimate revenge of the geeks? Are you a jock, geek, jock-geek, and how do you view the others.

I began my young adulthood as a basketball-playing jock but took to music and then to science afterwards, still retaining a love for fitness and sports. I like to know how the science words but I will never have the knowledge of someone who has gone to school for biology, I simply like a general explanation for how diet and exercise affects health and how I can use it to improve the quality of life.

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on March 08, 2011
at 08:01 AM

Can I transfer my answer to Melissa's thread then? ;)

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on March 07, 2011
at 04:05 PM

I'm also a mom. More brains than braun though I like to be physically active. More of a misfit, never a cheerleader. Was a fat kid and wouldn't wish that on anyone. So yeah, I care about my weight. But I mostly care about my health, and it's a travesty that many people are needlessly suffering because they are misinformed. I think "inquisitive" is a good word for someone like me, no more no less. I like paleohacks mostly because the diversity fosters constructive argument. I think as a 'community' there is the shared mistrust of conventional wisdom in regards to health and nutrition.

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on March 07, 2011
at 12:42 PM

Well said! For me it all started with my MAIN MOST PASSIONATE JOB...being a mother. How can you be a good mother without reading every possible thing you can get your hands on and questioning at least once every single thing you do by rote. Yes, things get passed on from generation to generation but unfortunately most things have been very distorted along the way...so I also rely on those geeks who back things up or I'd be basicaly making wild guesses with my daughter as the guinea pig. I guess I just make more educated guesses now.

33b6c516904a967ef8ecb30f1dbd8cf2

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on March 07, 2011
at 09:24 AM

I think these 'beauty obsessed women' you speak about here Stabby use cosmetic surgery rather than the paleo lifestyle to look more beautiful and less fat........

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on March 06, 2011
at 10:37 PM

Ha, I suppose I meant "not fat". :D

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on March 06, 2011
at 10:30 PM

I don't understand this: "...a noticeable percentage of beauty-obsessed ladies who are looking for ways to stay looking young and fat for as long as they can..."

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on March 06, 2011
at 08:58 PM

im the ali sheedy "basket case".

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on March 06, 2011
at 07:48 PM

Related thread: http://paleohacks.com/questions/3521/is-the-paleo-community-full-of-nerds#axzz1FqmPwdQs

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33b6c516904a967ef8ecb30f1dbd8cf2

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on March 07, 2011
at 09:03 AM

Woah, slow down with the 'beauty obsessed ladies' bit - what about the beauty/power/body-perfect obsessed guys? How come its the girls who get this label?

I am not a geek. I can use a computer, I understand something of the biology of the body, only because it seems that to dip into this particular paleo world, one needs to learn some scientific words.

I am a mother and a wife and am 'concerned' with my own body, I am not beauty-obsessed (unless you mean the kind of beauty which comes from the inside of which I am VERY interested in). I want to give my children the best chance I can give them in terms of nutrition and paleo living. I am a traditionalist, providing solid healthy meals for myself and my family based on paleo concepts, with the compromises that come with anything to do with raising children in the modern world......

You may find that there are many people here who are just regular people, although it seems that the geeks have the loudest voice in the paleo world, as they are able to back up what they write about with facts and studies, but this is only the result of society trusting our science-based world which 'dominates' the voices and 'senses' and 'knowing' of others (usually women), who are often pushed into the background (though thankfully not here) - yet that does not make these latter experiences any less valid than the scientific ones. After all, paleo was only able to exist in the past through trial and error and word of mouth from one generation to the next through direct teaching and stories.

So indeed, your 'revenge of the geek' as you already know, would not happen at all TODAY without those tens of thousands of years of personal, primitive (and non-scientific) experience coming before them......with science and fitness apart, the ultimate question will always be, "Was it done like that in Paleolithic times?" - Kind of like a chicken and egg scenario......

And there are still a huge number of these regular people around, who know what they know because it works, they see it work with their children and partners and they know, without necessary the backup of science to 'validate' their experiences. The are not jocks, they are not geeks, they have just found their way because they have had to find their way, they knew that they could not stop until they had found their way, nothing to do with body-perfection or scientific study, although that does come into it as par for the course, as a natural result of healthy inquisitiveness.....but probably more to do with trying to reverse the pain, dull ache or allergy, lift the extra pounds or halt the sense of not-well-being that propels many people into starting the 'search'.......

For me, paleo started with this sense that things were not quite right and found its resting place as the life I lead 'close to the earth', it just so happens to have included the subjects of nutrition science and fitness, although I find I cannot compartmentalize my paleo life quite as easily as all that.

The geeks and sports fanatics may seem the most obvious voices here, and it certainly is very satisfying to read a report that backs up the hunches us regular people have had all along, but I do not think it has much to do with REVENGE of the geeks, I think it is probably more to do with the fact that these giants are standing on the shoulders of other giants.......

9dbfedbe21eae2a65093f8774ba8ad4d

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on March 07, 2011
at 04:05 PM

I'm also a mom. More brains than braun though I like to be physically active. More of a misfit, never a cheerleader. Was a fat kid and wouldn't wish that on anyone. So yeah, I care about my weight. But I mostly care about my health, and it's a travesty that many people are needlessly suffering because they are misinformed. I think "inquisitive" is a good word for someone like me, no more no less. I like paleohacks mostly because the diversity fosters constructive argument. I think as a 'community' there is the shared mistrust of conventional wisdom in regards to health and nutrition.

2f931662684a7747be36255c8b486228

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on March 07, 2011
at 12:42 PM

Well said! For me it all started with my MAIN MOST PASSIONATE JOB...being a mother. How can you be a good mother without reading every possible thing you can get your hands on and questioning at least once every single thing you do by rote. Yes, things get passed on from generation to generation but unfortunately most things have been very distorted along the way...so I also rely on those geeks who back things up or I'd be basicaly making wild guesses with my daughter as the guinea pig. I guess I just make more educated guesses now.

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on March 06, 2011
at 11:15 PM

I'm a total nerd, geeked out on Greek philosophy, particle physics, and everything in between. Paleo tweaks that information and analytics junkie deep down in me.

However, paleo led me to Crossfit, which is slowly turning me into a bit of a jock as well. Pretty good for a clumsy nerd who was founder and president of her high school's book club.

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on March 07, 2011
at 03:17 PM

Geek moving towards jock. Maybe this will just result in the sort of Revenge of the Nerds utopia where Ogre comes over to the Nerd side? Or we create some sort of jock-geek hybrid world? [pause to read what I wrote] Damn, nope, I'm still a geek...

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on March 06, 2011
at 11:30 PM

complete geek, I am obsessed with obtaining knowledge about every kind of aspect of human life, religions, anatomy, nutrition, ancient customs, etc... being human is an amazing thing and I'd be damned if I travel through this life not knowing 9or feeling like I know) the essence of what it is to be human.

being a girl, of course I care about being beautiful, but thats not my main concern. Knowledge is far greater a force than beauty is, at least in my opinion. I grew up on natural beauty remedies so thats just common sense to me, baking soda cleanses and exfoliates, oils such as olive and coconut are wonderful for moisturizing and obtaining healthy skin. but then that takes be back into human anatomy and how our skin reacts to the fatty acids and enzymes in our food (going back to nutrition now) to make us feel young and youthful. everything is is in balance, as it should be :)

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on March 06, 2011
at 11:30 PM

Hi Stabby,

Nice to meet you. Yo answer your question: I am a hybrid. If you only knew me from my work you would say I'm a geek. If you only knew me because of the sports I compete in you would call me a jock. I think the diversity of this community and lifestyle is what makes it so darn good! We are on our own personal journey, yet this journey intersects through the journeys of others on a different path. We learn and share and we all become wiser.

best of luck!

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on March 06, 2011
at 08:35 PM

Well I'll tell you something for nothing, I'm certainly not looking to stay young and fat all my life. ;)

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