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Any upsides to the Neolithic diet?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 09, 2011 at 4:44 PM

So...with all the Neolithic dietary habit bashing that happens in this site, can anyone tell me what (if any) good things the Neolithic diet brought to the table / flat rock / picnic cloth? Nicer cutlery and crockery don't count, just edible things :)

And just to really mix it up...what about the Mesolithic and post-Neolithic periods (Bronze Age & Iron Age)?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 10, 2011
at 01:18 AM

plus one.....and i concur

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on August 09, 2011
at 10:16 PM

One of the few foods I have to be very careful to never set eyes on, or all is lost.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 09, 2011
at 10:11 PM

It is the new natural selection choice for us it appears.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 09, 2011
at 10:11 PM

drives evolution of humans. That is about it.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on August 09, 2011
at 09:00 PM

Mmmmmm, pecan pie..... :P

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:57 PM

Heh. Yeah, I'm aware of the pitfalls on that conceptual road. Still, I felt the need to point out that OP's got the credit arrow going in the wrong direction.

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:16 PM

Careful about calling everyone else surplus population rose.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 09, 2011
at 07:34 PM

whay sort of cheeses are low lactose? Mainly hard cheses like romana yes?

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on August 09, 2011
at 07:31 PM

Cart before horse, here. The Neolithic food supply has *produced* billions of people. Simplified law of population ecology: Species population rises to limit of resources. Neolithic food = effing monstrously mega resources.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:32 PM

Mmm. Plus one for wine and chocolate.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:29 PM

lol...LOVE the link bryanH! Mmmmmm, nothing like some good fresh pressed breast milk in your morning coffee. Really gets things pumpin.

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:06 PM

This is a very interesting answer.

0fe73ab3e375e6d68f0e4bb9fda5ea27

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:42 PM

@PersonMan - fortunately the internet has an answer to that too: http://www.good.is/post/the-history-of-human-breast-milk-cheese/ Seems like 2006 was the magical year for producing this odd addition to the food chain :)

0fe73ab3e375e6d68f0e4bb9fda5ea27

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:39 PM

Check out the this link on wikipedia too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese#Origins

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:36 PM

What about human cheese?

0fe73ab3e375e6d68f0e4bb9fda5ea27

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:34 PM

If you're talking about cow cheese, then probably in the Neolithic period...if you're talking horse mare milk cheese, then probably in the slightly later Chalcolithic period (Copper Age)...no idea about goats/sheep.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:15 PM

harms.20 - Addiction to sugar, flour, etc. Government subsidies that make neolithic foods cheap. Economics even without subsidies. Habit

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:14 PM

Addiction to sugar, flour, etc. Government subsidies that make neolithic foods cheap. Economics even without subsidies. Habit.

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:07 PM

An interesting question. Sometimes I ask myself 'if paleo is so much better, why do the vast majority of humans eat neolithic?'

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:20 PM

I actually think the neolithic diet is quite good for avoiding acute problems, but quite bad at contributing to chronic ones. If you spend enough time here, you can see that with a paleo diet, there seems to be an increased chance of various types of strange acute reactions due to nutrient deficiencies and the like that the average person wouldn't really encounter. This seems to be far more likely for those going down a low(er) carb route. Heck, I've seen paleo people complain of scurvy.

A fairly diverse neolithic diet won't deliver optimal amounts of all the nutrients, but I think there's a small chance that someone would get none of something. Take dairy for example. If you avoid it, there's precious little bioavailable calcium in a standard paleo diet. Presumably we got Ca and Mg from drinking out of streams in the distant past, but you have to pursue it supplementally in order to avoid a deficiency in the absence of dairy. The answer is simply that we need to be more vigilant about nutrient density.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 10, 2011
at 01:18 AM

plus one.....and i concur

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on August 09, 2011
at 06:06 PM

This is a very interesting answer.

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5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on August 09, 2011
at 04:57 PM

Coffee with cream and a slice of pecan pie. Good in a sort of tasty evil way that could kill a person of course.

Oh, you wanted a serious answer. Oops.

Domesticated animals - meat readily available. Coffee and tea for those of us who partake.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on August 09, 2011
at 09:00 PM

Mmmmmm, pecan pie..... :P

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on August 09, 2011
at 10:16 PM

One of the few foods I have to be very careful to never set eyes on, or all is lost.

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64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on August 09, 2011
at 04:46 PM

olive oil and butter are pretty good contributions

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5437163ddf70d4532f196bfb4333753e

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on August 09, 2011
at 07:53 PM

Cheese...glorious, glorious cheese...

uhhhh, Go Packers?!

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:10 PM

Portability. The Neolithic diet allowed humans to live anywhere and survive famines. Stockfish, grains, herding and alcohol (that great preservative of grain and fruit)made it all possible.

Refrigeration came later, allowing vegetarianism and modern paleo life as we know it.

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:58 PM

Domesticated animals that are pastured. Maybe wine (that's arguable). Butter from pastured animals. Maybe olive oil. Coconut oil. Chocolate (contains phytates but high in magnesium...).

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:32 PM

Mmm. Plus one for wine and chocolate.

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Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

on August 09, 2011
at 04:55 PM

All domesticated plants and animals that fit into the paleo framework.

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:59 PM

  1. Wine, mead, and cider.
  2. GHEE!
  3. Cheeses (that are low in lactose)
  4. The profusion of choices of aged meats

I'm also going to have to call out all the paleo-like treats that can only be grown/raised vary far away from me.
Coffee, Tea, certain spices, cocoa, etc. etc. etc.

Link for personman http://askthecheesesnob.blogspot.com/2010/11/does-lactose-intolerance-no-cheese.html

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 09, 2011
at 07:34 PM

whay sort of cheeses are low lactose? Mainly hard cheses like romana yes?

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:18 PM

Wine

San Pelligrino

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Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:51 PM

im a big fan of all the wonderful cultured dairy products. and carbonated water. ice cream, fo sho. wine, seltzer, limoncello, olive oil, cultivated fruits and veggies and the ability to preserve and ship them long distances. yogurt.

but mostly, salted caramel gelato.

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on August 09, 2011
at 07:05 PM

The Neolithic diet has proved enough to nourish the entire humanity, and you propably couldn't feed 5 billion people with the paleodiet. You must give it some credits, don't you think so?

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:16 PM

Careful about calling everyone else surplus population rose.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on August 09, 2011
at 07:31 PM

Cart before horse, here. The Neolithic food supply has *produced* billions of people. Simplified law of population ecology: Species population rises to limit of resources. Neolithic food = effing monstrously mega resources.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on August 09, 2011
at 08:57 PM

Heh. Yeah, I'm aware of the pitfalls on that conceptual road. Still, I felt the need to point out that OP's got the credit arrow going in the wrong direction.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:27 PM

Where does cheese fit into the dynamic?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:29 PM

lol...LOVE the link bryanH! Mmmmmm, nothing like some good fresh pressed breast milk in your morning coffee. Really gets things pumpin.

0fe73ab3e375e6d68f0e4bb9fda5ea27

(142)

on August 09, 2011
at 05:34 PM

If you're talking about cow cheese, then probably in the Neolithic period...if you're talking horse mare milk cheese, then probably in the slightly later Chalcolithic period (Copper Age)...no idea about goats/sheep.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 09, 2011
at 05:36 PM

What about human cheese?

0fe73ab3e375e6d68f0e4bb9fda5ea27

(142)

on August 09, 2011
at 05:42 PM

@PersonMan - fortunately the internet has an answer to that too: http://www.good.is/post/the-history-of-human-breast-milk-cheese/ Seems like 2006 was the magical year for producing this odd addition to the food chain :)

0fe73ab3e375e6d68f0e4bb9fda5ea27

(142)

on August 09, 2011
at 05:39 PM

Check out the this link on wikipedia too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese#Origins

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095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

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on August 09, 2011
at 11:53 PM

Pie, chocolate cake, oreos, McFlurries, Blizzards.

Hey, I thought the question WAS good things, not necessarily healthy things. :)

What ya expect serious thoughtful answers all the time, tomorrow is my carb loading day and it will be potatoes and fruit in addition to 210g of protein and 100g of fat. :( A guy can wish can't he?

Seriously, cows, pigs, sheep, in truth...a small amount of some legumes (yeah, yeah, I know...I'm in the minority of one here on this one)... But I have yet to see evidence where green beans which are mostly shell are bad.

Farmed broccoli, asparagus, spinach, turnips. ...

The list can go on...

EDIT...don't forget home canning. You think any self respecting cave man other than an inuit or norseman cave viking dude would have had a freezer? :)

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