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kale and turnip greens suddenly making me nauseous

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created November 07, 2012 at 4:04 AM

Stats: 31, 262 lbs, female

Been paleo since end of July, when I first started, I couldn't get enough greens. Like kale, mustard greens and turnip greens and the like. Even before then I loved them. Suddenly I can't eat them without wanting to puke. Just curious if that means there is something in them I can't stomach anymore, and if anybody has had this experience?

Also since then I have had serious charlie horses. Could they be related? Thanks for any info.

Oh, not taking a multivitamin yet, will start this weekend, but I do take iron as I'm anemic and B12. Thanks

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on November 07, 2012
at 08:40 PM

I like your pun

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on November 07, 2012
at 08:12 PM

Yes, you're right ROB! "Cooking has a relatively small impact on the oxalate content of foods. Repeated food chemistry studies have shown no statistically significant lowering of oxalate content following the blanching or boiling of green leafy vegetables. A lowering of oxalate content by about 5-15% is the most you should expect when cooking a high-oxalate food." http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=48 US&w=3gVrlccJw8aKPDZQTfwRRAqYnply4P0C

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on November 07, 2012
at 04:47 PM

All I have ever read says cooking doesn't deactivate oxalates?

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on November 07, 2012
at 03:19 PM

I get the same thing with spinach & always assumed it was the oxalates.

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on November 07, 2012
at 01:44 PM

maybe it's the oxalates in them? http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=93 Does this describe you: http://blog.sethroberts.net/2012/08/05/fibromyalgia-improved-by-no-longer-eating-fruits-and-vegetables/ The gist: Many vegetables contain a lot of oxalate, which acts as a pesticide. A woman had been having problems, cut out oxalate vegetables and her problems subsided. Some of the symptoms: muscle pain, tingly legs, fatigue, irritable mood, bladder irritation, poor concentration, restless legs and poor sleep.

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on November 07, 2012
at 01:42 PM

doesn't seem irrelevant...

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8d3cb0be5f31c75a05f853cb3b5c245a

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on November 07, 2012
at 01:45 PM

maybe it's the oxalates in them? whfoods.com/??? Does this describe you: blog.sethroberts.net/2012/08/05/??? The gist: Many vegetables contain a lot of oxalate, which acts as a pesticide. A woman had been having problems, cut out oxalate vegetables and her problems subsided. Some of the symptoms: muscle pain, tingly legs, fatigue, irritable mood, bladder irritation, poor concentration, restless legs and poor sleep

it depends on if you eat them raw or cook them...cooking deactivates a small amount of the oxalates....but also generally, why it's not a good idea to overdose on even the most super of super-foods, and you should rotate out your fruits and vegetables seasonally.

Also they can have pesticides - see the environmental working group dirty dozen list. you might be reacting to that?

also, if you are anemic, start eating liver!!! best source of b-vitamins and iron and natural. squeeze some lemon juice on it because vitamin C helps with iron absorption. but supplementing iron and b12 can throw other body systems out of whack. This I DO know from personal experience.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on November 07, 2012
at 04:47 PM

All I have ever read says cooking doesn't deactivate oxalates?

21b36b3de8ff31b0d41e7f0f4b5c1e03

(1688)

on November 07, 2012
at 03:19 PM

I get the same thing with spinach & always assumed it was the oxalates.

8d3cb0be5f31c75a05f853cb3b5c245a

(1601)

on November 07, 2012
at 08:12 PM

Yes, you're right ROB! "Cooking has a relatively small impact on the oxalate content of foods. Repeated food chemistry studies have shown no statistically significant lowering of oxalate content following the blanching or boiling of green leafy vegetables. A lowering of oxalate content by about 5-15% is the most you should expect when cooking a high-oxalate food." http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=48 US&w=3gVrlccJw8aKPDZQTfwRRAqYnply4P0C

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on November 07, 2012
at 01:50 PM

There's probably several compoubds that you're building up an oversupply of. With any type of food, eating too much without taking it out of rotation for a while can not only burn you out on it but also overdose you on irritants. Try going to different greens for a few weeks and then coming back to the kale. Collards are coming into season and are a good alternative. You could also leaf out (get it?) the leafy greens for a couple weeks and eat some celery, broccoli, etc to switch it up.

8d3cb0be5f31c75a05f853cb3b5c245a

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on November 07, 2012
at 08:40 PM

I like your pun

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on November 07, 2012
at 04:07 AM

I'm not sure but aren't kale and turnips both anti-thyroid. I had problems eating turnips, it made my hypothyroid symptoms flare up. Just throwing it out there, sorry if this is totally irrelevant.

8d3cb0be5f31c75a05f853cb3b5c245a

(1601)

on November 07, 2012
at 01:42 PM

doesn't seem irrelevant...

8d3cb0be5f31c75a05f853cb3b5c245a

(1601)

on November 07, 2012
at 01:44 PM

maybe it's the oxalates in them? http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=93 Does this describe you: http://blog.sethroberts.net/2012/08/05/fibromyalgia-improved-by-no-longer-eating-fruits-and-vegetables/ The gist: Many vegetables contain a lot of oxalate, which acts as a pesticide. A woman had been having problems, cut out oxalate vegetables and her problems subsided. Some of the symptoms: muscle pain, tingly legs, fatigue, irritable mood, bladder irritation, poor concentration, restless legs and poor sleep.

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