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Feeling Nauseas mid-day on DAY ONE dairy elimination

Answered on August 11, 2013
Created May 01, 2013 at 7:07 PM

I've been doing a lazy version of Paleo for a few months now (cheating, eating dairy, legumes, potatoes and some corn)

I decided to eliminate dairy to see if it was causing me any problems. I am very reliant on it, cheese is one of my most favorite foods ever, and I love butter, sour cream, heavy cream ect.

Normally for breakfast I have a green smoothie with greek yogurt and keifer-- sometimes heavy cream. Today I exchanged the dairy for almonds and almond milk to make up for the loss of liquid and protein. the other ingredients were standard rotation: kale, half a banana, raw cacao powder,flax, hemp & chia seeds. I'll have to go to the store soon to get some gelatin for my smoothies to make sure I'm getting my protein from animal sources instead of the almonds. I usually take a whole heap of vitamins and supplements following my smoothie, and it's usually ok. I dont eat lunch but take about 6 different supplements around lunch time (1pm)- also not usually a problem. Today, After I took my afternoon vitamins, I started feeling a little dizzy and nauseas, and I actually started tasting the fish oil i took in the morning (8:30am).

can this really be a symptom of eliminating that small amount of dairy? It's day one! OR, could it be that with the elimination of the dairy, my fat content of the smoothie went down, creating less of a "cushion" for the pills? Perhaps adding coconut oil or milk would help?

I'd love to hear what everyone experienced during their dairy elimination- I've seen plenty about a more broad spectrum elimination, but I'm more interested in how you felt while only eliminating dairy.

thank you!

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on June 13, 2013
at 07:00 PM

Coconut milk have the same electrolytes, but I know that a bunch of doctors (even SAD doctors-GASP!) recommend coconut water as an electrolyte replenisher on par with Gatorade. Might be worth giving it a shot.

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on May 02, 2013
at 06:11 PM

today I used some coconut milk and an avocado to bring the fat content up-- ditched the almonds and ate a piece of jerky for the protein. I think the fat really helped, I still felt a teeny bit nauseas but I attribute that to a longer than usual wait between drinking my smoothie and taking the vitamins.

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on May 02, 2013
at 06:08 PM

very interesting! do you have suggestions of something high in electrolytes I could stick in a smoothie?

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on May 02, 2013
at 06:07 PM

A few potatoes here and there keep my husband sane in the midst of my "outlandish diet," especially since he cooks dinner. Glad to hear it's not a complete deviation!

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on May 02, 2013
at 06:05 PM

I'm hoping that dairy is the source of my problems and I wont have to take all of these vitamins and supplements anymore. I have Hashimoto's, depression, anxiety, CFS, and terrible brain fog...I've stopped taking all prescriptions & started going the vitamin and supplement route only. With our current soil we cannot get all of the things we need purely from food- I imagine myself drastically cutting down the amounts I take but still using some. "real meal" thing- I like smoothies. they're fast,easy and tremendously good for you as long as you don't put a ton of fruit in. they're staying.

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on May 01, 2013
at 09:48 PM

I myself am very sensitive to any supplements that aren't liquid, sub-lingual, or trans-dermal. I get dizzy, shaky, and extremely nauseous - but it seems unlikely that you would develop a sensitivity to your vitamin regimen from one day to the next. Why not take your vitamins on a full stomach - with a real meal instead of a smoothie?

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on May 01, 2013
at 09:44 PM

Why do you take so many supplements? To my understanding, the central tenant of the paleo lifestyle is eating whole, wholesome, nutrient dense food. I don't say this to be judgmental - I just want to know your thought process.

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on August 11, 2013
at 05:58 PM

Google casein withdrawal

some reports of dizziness, etc here. The main article is about gluten, with a small sidebar on casein: http://www.livingwithout.com/issues/4_8/giving_up_gluten-2024-1.html

The vitamins with a full meal definitely sounds like a good idea though.

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on August 11, 2013
at 02:47 PM

Some of the vitamins I take can make me feel nauseous if I don't have a full enough meal when I take them. Perhaps you just didn't have enough food in your stomach when you dropped dairy from your smoothie. I would add more meat/fat to your breakfast - eggs and bacon on the side; avocado, coconut milk/oil in your smoothie.

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on May 30, 2013
at 04:57 PM

"took my afternoon vitamins, I started feeling a little dizzy and nauseas"

You solved your own problem right there. Its the Vitamins, not the lack of dairy

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on May 16, 2013
at 01:19 AM

Wheres is your meat? Although gelatin comes from animals, its not a complete set of proteins.

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on May 01, 2013
at 09:03 PM

Sometimes when my electrolytes are out of balance that happens to me. Dairy is high in electrolytes and you might be finding your balance with new foods. Or the almond milk, flax or another ingredient might be stressing your digestive system. That happens to me sometimes with nuts and some vegetables, especially raw. And, of course, it could be a coincidence too.

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on May 02, 2013
at 06:08 PM

very interesting! do you have suggestions of something high in electrolytes I could stick in a smoothie?

C6648ab69e5a1560c7585fe3ba7108fb

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on June 13, 2013
at 07:00 PM

Coconut milk have the same electrolytes, but I know that a bunch of doctors (even SAD doctors-GASP!) recommend coconut water as an electrolyte replenisher on par with Gatorade. Might be worth giving it a shot.

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on May 01, 2013
at 08:41 PM

It could also just be a wild coincidence. If you want to be scientific about it, reintroduce milk tomorrow and see if you don't get nauseous, then remove it again and see if you do.

Incidentally, most people seem to consider potatoes and similar tubers fully paleo-compliant.

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on May 02, 2013
at 06:07 PM

A few potatoes here and there keep my husband sane in the midst of my "outlandish diet," especially since he cooks dinner. Glad to hear it's not a complete deviation!

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on May 01, 2013
at 07:22 PM

I eliminated most dairy (butter is my exception and not used extensively) several years ago and never felt the way you describe. However, I have felt that way after green smoothies if I haven't gotten enough of something from the smoothie. Chances are high that your removal of greek yogurt and changing to almond milk has lowered one or more things. Coconut milk is a good high-fat smoothie addition. You could also be getting too much almonds and showing a sensitivity that you haven't seen before. Making coconut milk is easy and you get the full fat if you make it yourself. I highly doubt going off dairy is the cause, more likely it's because you're not getting enough of a macronutrient or calories due to removing it. So, upping other things to replace what you lost would be my suggestion.

Find out how much of everything was in what you removed and compare it to what you exchanged it with. That'll show you what you've lost in term of macros. Good luck!

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on May 02, 2013
at 06:11 PM

today I used some coconut milk and an avocado to bring the fat content up-- ditched the almonds and ate a piece of jerky for the protein. I think the fat really helped, I still felt a teeny bit nauseas but I attribute that to a longer than usual wait between drinking my smoothie and taking the vitamins.

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