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Beyond Using Soap

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 21, 2012 at 2:06 PM

I tried looking at the website beyondshampoo.com but it looks like its taken down. I want to move toward a more natural approach to using body care items, items free of chemicals.

I was wondering if using All Natural Cleansers like ones made from only natural ingredients would be ok. I already use Crystal Deodorant which has no Aluminum in there, but I wanted to know about other items like Soap & Makeup.

I am not trying to endorse any type of products, but I recently came across "Made From Earth" products, and they are amazing on my skin. I just want to know if using things with natural ingredients is ok, or if its all more just a marketing hype? Also, if you guys have any recommendations, that would be great.

Dea5f440698f5488b975ada2f61daa0d

(393)

on March 23, 2012
at 01:13 AM

Oh, yeah, I buy soap chips for brushing my teeth. The best buy I've found (so far) is from rose of sharon acres (NAYY).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 22, 2012
at 08:31 PM

I've tried the super-expensive ultra-natural products. My hair is nasty, greasy etc... and I'd rather not turn hippie and have dreads. Lush's solid shampoo are biodegradable and safe for grey water systems etc... which is a good indication of general health. I should also mention that in tepid water 1x a week I serious doubt I'm doing any lasting damage.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 22, 2012
at 04:55 PM

My friend used to work at I guess the "factory" for lush, and they are pretty good! Minimal additives and they are really great to their employees. That being said, I don't use body wash or soap, haha, just a washcloth..

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 22, 2012
at 04:54 PM

I LOVE hydrosols for toner, I keep them in the fridge in a spray bottle during the summer, it is jut so refreshing and gentle on the skin. I get mine from "Natural Aura", they are fabulous.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on March 22, 2012
at 03:48 AM

Lush stuff smells lovely, but I think the OP and anyone else needs to read the labels. It's better, but it still isn't great. I like the point about heat. I mostly just use a very hot washcloth on my face anymore. No cleaning product needed.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on March 22, 2012
at 03:47 AM

Mary, you are my cleaning twin. There is nothing that can't be cleaned with Sal Suds, vinegar, and actually use of the hands. I don't know why Sal Suds aren't more popular. Such an economical, nice smelling, green degreaser. I use mine in the laundry and for dishes too. It's so potent that I dilute it in a spray bottle for my dishes.

306aa57660d911781231f8090c2a5619

(3808)

on March 21, 2012
at 03:13 PM

Also "no chemicals" is meaningless and inaccurate hype. The ingredient lists on those products looks, on brief examination, ok. But a product that is truly chemical-free literally DOES NOT EXIST. Chemical does not mean bad-horrible-bad-for-you-thing - all matter is, when you come down to it, chemicals.

306aa57660d911781231f8090c2a5619

(3808)

on March 21, 2012
at 03:02 PM

Using things with all natural ingredients is perfectly fine and good. But $52 ON SALE for 2 oz of moisturizing cream? That's totally marketing hype.

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Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

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on March 22, 2012
at 05:33 PM

I've had excellent results with making a liquid surfactant from soap-nuts. These are NOT soap. They're a high-saponin nut. You have to be aware of the type and preparation of the nuts -- you want sapindus mukorossi nuts that have been pitted. There are a few companies out there with a good record.

(BTW, these can also be used whole, in a muslin bag [3-5 per load] for laundry, and the liquid can be used to replace almost any cleaning product, including shampoo, body wash, etc.]

I have horrific dermatitis, due to a genetic anomaly that causes excessive IgE production, and this is the only stuff I can use on my clothing without ending up with a reaction, especially where I have skin-folds or a lot of perspiration (sorry for being explicit).

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D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on March 22, 2012
at 04:00 AM

I am a big proponent of simple stuff. Honey makes a nice face mask/wash and it's actually remarkably tidy to use and rinse off. I like steaming my face with a hot cloth, applying honey, and then hopping in the shower. Clay (rhassoul, bentonite, etc) makes a nice mask/cleanser. I literally just pour a little rhassoul in my palm, add some hot water, stir with a finger, apply to my face, do my routine and then wash it off. It exfoliates, too.

Diluted apple cider vinegar makes a nice enough toner. Herbal hydrosols (the natural byproduct of essential oil-making) can make awesome toners. I really like shopping at www.naturesgift.com. Or heck, just dilute some rosewater from the store. Makes ya feel nice, low tech, no yuck in it.

You can also check out the oil cleansing method for your face. I like castor oil and jojoba blended together. There are a TON of websites discussing it. Again, minimal yuck.

Want lotion? Use coconut oil, argan oil, camellia, olive, sweet almond, yada yada yada. Want to trick it up? Pick up some essential oils that are skin safe and add them to your carrier oil. Or get your hands on some shea or other butters and whip them in your mixer. Homemade fancy body butter.

My scalp won't tolerate baking soda, but I do okay with shampoo bars (I like www.hennasooq.com) and a slightly acidic rinse as needed. I've finally managed to adjust to a shampoo about every three days. I used to be oily looking about every 12 hours. Even easier would be trying out some ayurvedic herbs. Soapnuts, shikakai, etc. I use a runny clay wash maybe twice a month.

Anything at the drugstore is going to have preservatives and other crap. The more of that you can pare out, the better, I think. High quality ingredients can be just as indulgent and luxurious. Our skin is our largest organ, right?

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 22, 2012
at 04:54 PM

I LOVE hydrosols for toner, I keep them in the fridge in a spray bottle during the summer, it is jut so refreshing and gentle on the skin. I get mine from "Natural Aura", they are fabulous.

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Dea5f440698f5488b975ada2f61daa0d

on March 22, 2012
at 01:56 AM

I stopped using shampoo a few months ago. During my shower, which is mostly daily now, I massage my hair well. About every 7 or 8 days I will massage a mixture of 2 oz water with about 1 Tbsp baking soda in it to get out the extra "stuff." Sometimes after that treatment I will massage in some coconut oil. The important thing is to massage my head and brush my hair a lot.

I use coconut oil on my skin.

I use burt's bees sage deodorant, but plan to eventually change to something more "green."

I use a local coconut-oil soap in the shower, and bronner's liquid soap for my face and hands. The liquid soap in the bathroom is almond, and the liquid soap in the kitchen is peppermint with a couple drops of lemon extract.

I use bronner's sal suds for laundry and floor washing. I use diluted vinegar (half water) in a sprayer in one hand and an old inside-out tube sock in the other hand to clean bathrooms.

I rinse cutting boards after use with hydrogen peroxide, and let it sit a while. I do this a few times, until it no longer bubbles.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on March 22, 2012
at 03:47 AM

Mary, you are my cleaning twin. There is nothing that can't be cleaned with Sal Suds, vinegar, and actually use of the hands. I don't know why Sal Suds aren't more popular. Such an economical, nice smelling, green degreaser. I use mine in the laundry and for dishes too. It's so potent that I dilute it in a spray bottle for my dishes.

Dea5f440698f5488b975ada2f61daa0d

(393)

on March 23, 2012
at 01:13 AM

Oh, yeah, I buy soap chips for brushing my teeth. The best buy I've found (so far) is from rose of sharon acres (NAYY).

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E2123e1da4ccbe211c9cbd82356fe4bc

on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM

Here are some recipes for homemade lotion, shampoo, sugar scrub and toothpaste! It's really easy to make stuff yourself, and this way you know what goes into your products (and ultimately you).

http://wellnessmama.com/3765/luxurious-homemade-lotion-recipe/ http://wellnessmama.com/3701/how-to-make-natural-shampoo-easy-recipe/ http://wellnessmama.com/3628/luxurious-sugar-scrub-recipe-easy/ http://wellnessmama.com/2500/homemade-remineralizing-toothpaste-recipe/ http://wellnessmama.com/1409/seven-natural-homemade-substitues-for-conventional-beauty-products/

You can also use a bit of baking soda mixed with water as a facial exfoliator. It works quite nicely.

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22e0848b769b6f51f8b4e4f38b256532

on August 14, 2013
at 08:14 PM

It is so simple to make your own products with basic ingredients. Here's a site that offers easy diy recipes that can be used on the face and body: http://freshfacescrubs.blogspot.com/p/sugar-scrub-recipes.html

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3455e4f310c2bfc8929623d46a71cc02

on March 25, 2013
at 07:03 AM

Hi All,

This comment is a little behind the times (by about a year, to be exact), but just thought I'd share that my mom and I recently started a Paleo soap company. We only use organic ingredients in our soaps. The soaps have a coconut oil base, along with peach kernel oil,and go from there depending on what your preferences are (blueberry, sea salt and kelp, coffee...). They are completely palm-free sustainable soaps (hooray for preserving the rainforest and orangutans that live within). We started it when we realized that there wasn't really something like it out there for us, so we decided to create soaps not only for ourselves but for others out there who were looking for the same! Just thought it might be worth mentioning. :-)

http://www.washoftheday.com

http://www.washoftheday.com/faq

http://www.facebook.com/washoftheday

Alicia

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 22, 2012
at 01:59 AM

There is only so far I'm willing to go on these areas. We use Lush solid shampoo and bodywashs. We use coconut oil for massage, make-up remover, and general moisturizer.

Hot showers = no products Warm/Cool showers = to wash with soap

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 22, 2012
at 04:55 PM

My friend used to work at I guess the "factory" for lush, and they are pretty good! Minimal additives and they are really great to their employees. That being said, I don't use body wash or soap, haha, just a washcloth..

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on March 22, 2012
at 03:48 AM

Lush stuff smells lovely, but I think the OP and anyone else needs to read the labels. It's better, but it still isn't great. I like the point about heat. I mostly just use a very hot washcloth on my face anymore. No cleaning product needed.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 22, 2012
at 08:31 PM

I've tried the super-expensive ultra-natural products. My hair is nasty, greasy etc... and I'd rather not turn hippie and have dreads. Lush's solid shampoo are biodegradable and safe for grey water systems etc... which is a good indication of general health. I should also mention that in tepid water 1x a week I serious doubt I'm doing any lasting damage.

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A45af235ed4dd0b4f548c59e91b75763

(1936)

on March 21, 2012
at 09:20 PM

I made my own soap from tallow a few months ago. To be honest it is horrifing what goes into make soap. You basically take perfectly good tallow and introduce horrific chemicals to it that will melt your eyeballs and wow presto.. soap.

What I do now is use as little of my homemade soap as I can, mostly for the really stinky bits. I wash my hair when it starts getting itchy, maybe once or twice a week.

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on March 21, 2012
at 02:36 PM

I like coconut oil for makeup remover/moisturizer.Weleda has nice products.Also on the EWG site all the skin care products are rated,so you can pick the ones with the least poison.

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4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on March 21, 2012
at 02:34 PM

For hands and body, I use simple bar soap, generally with some sort of essential oil added.

For floors, I use Dr. Bronner's all purpose cleaner (for babies). It is basically just liquid soap, plain and simple and does not even have essential oils (e.g., citrus or pine) which linger in the air.

For deoderant, I use coconut oil + starch + baking soda. It is effective and I don't use it that often.

I don't use makeup but I know there are various websites/blogs that discuss safer makeup alternatives. For big brand name stuff, I think Origins is better than most.

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