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Vegetarians and Paleo

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Created July 12, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Just wanting to know others thoughts on the mighty mushroom and if it is a good source of protein for me? I love it and I also use Quorn, which is a product brand for a non-meat product which I believe contains mushrooms. Many thanks Kit

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on July 15, 2012
at 12:25 PM

Hi Kit - I have IBS and avoided red meat for 15 years because I was told it was "difficult to digest". However I find certain veggies much harder to digest, let alone beans and grains. Meat "lining the bowel for 10 years" sounds like a lot of the misinformation that is precisely NOT what Paleo is about. I am eating lots of red meat now, and feel better than ever. I am against feedlot meat, I only buy local organic grassed meat and animal products. Humans evolved eating meat, that's why I feel it's an integral part of the human diet. There are ethical ways of meat consumption. – Renee 0 secs ag

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on July 15, 2012
at 12:24 PM

Hi Kit - I have IBS and avoided red meat for 15 years because I was told it was "difficult to digest". However I find certain veggies much harder to digest, let alone beans and grains. Meat "lining the bowel for 10 years" sounds like a lot of the misinformation that is precisely NOT what Paleo is about. I am eating lots of red meat now, and feel better than ever. I am against feedlot meat, I only buy local organic grassed meat and animal products. Humans evolved eating meat, that's why I feel it's an integral part of the human diet. There are ethical ways of meat consumption.

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on July 15, 2012
at 02:33 AM

Also, when 'man' first ate meat, I don't believe he had yet discovered how to make fire :) So he wouldn't have cooked any meat that he caught. By using heat, you destroy the proteins within. This goes for any foods I guess, but I don't think I could eat totally raw :) Raw eggs are good and I remember eating raw liver as a young child at the butchers with my mother! As well as raw steak! I wonder how the bowel deals with raw meat as opposed to cooked meat? Perhaps the acids in the stomach can more easily break down the former. Not that I plan on eating meat again, but it's interesting. :)

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on July 15, 2012
at 02:26 AM

Hi there, Quinoa is apparently on the 'foods to be avoided' list :) I guess I won't buy any more and maybe only eat what I have in the freezer on the odd occasion! I love the Schnitzels! But I bought this before I came across this Paleo understanding. I'm just going to try this all out and then see how my body responds :) Thank you Kit

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on July 15, 2012
at 02:22 AM

Hi there :) Why? As per my previous comment re mass production, as well as mass destruction of forests and rain forests for this purpose. Also, in my understanding, if I am able to live well on a diet of no animal flesh, then that fulfills my karmic path :) Thank you for asking :) Cheers Kit

B52563f4689eb4bbac4feb68d4168e0a

on July 15, 2012
at 02:18 AM

Er, thanks for that Renee! My choice to is to eat vegetarian, but also, as an ex-Crhons Disease sufferer, I am also looking in to what happens to certain foods once they are in the bowel. Dairy, sadly, is a not really good at all, but yes, I do have eggs and now Chia. Meat is not an easily digestible product and can line a bowel wall for sometimes around ten years! We need our bowel to be clear and free to take all the nutrients out of what we consume, in my understanding. My choice comes more from not wanting to be part of mans arrogant mass creation of animals for profit, at their expense.

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on July 13, 2012
at 02:00 PM

Totally paleo..

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on July 13, 2012
at 01:59 PM

I second that Matt. I think we should be more welcoming (ie welcoming at all) to vegetarians. We can't be or shouldn't be that limiting. I go meatless many-a-day. Uh oh.

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on July 13, 2012
at 01:02 PM

Now if this fungus culture was featured in traditional diets, it'd be totally paleo, wouldn't you say?

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on July 13, 2012
at 12:57 PM

Paleo is not incompatible with vegetarianism (though I'd argue it is incompatible with veganism). Meat is not necessary, I think a dairy/egg-only paleo would be fairly effective.

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on July 13, 2012
at 06:41 AM

@BoneBrothFast: Or make you see funny things ;-)

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on July 13, 2012
at 06:10 AM

There's very few toxic mushrooms on this world. The worst most of them will do to you is make you nauseous or give you diarrhea.

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on July 13, 2012
at 05:44 AM

I think mushrooms contain a lot of unique antioxidants and compounds that are very good for immune function.

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on July 13, 2012
at 03:57 AM

Apparently there is this notion that Quorn is a mushroom. It is not.

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on July 13, 2012
at 01:18 AM

Something great about Mushrooms, one of the only plant forms that contain vitamin D

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F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

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on July 13, 2012
at 12:23 AM

Mushrooms are not sources of protein, and Quorn is not Paleo. Meat is a good source of protein. Eat meat.

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(41747)

on July 13, 2012
at 12:57 PM

Paleo is not incompatible with vegetarianism (though I'd argue it is incompatible with veganism). Meat is not necessary, I think a dairy/egg-only paleo would be fairly effective.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on July 13, 2012
at 01:59 PM

I second that Matt. I think we should be more welcoming (ie welcoming at all) to vegetarians. We can't be or shouldn't be that limiting. I go meatless many-a-day. Uh oh.

B52563f4689eb4bbac4feb68d4168e0a

on July 15, 2012
at 02:18 AM

Er, thanks for that Renee! My choice to is to eat vegetarian, but also, as an ex-Crhons Disease sufferer, I am also looking in to what happens to certain foods once they are in the bowel. Dairy, sadly, is a not really good at all, but yes, I do have eggs and now Chia. Meat is not an easily digestible product and can line a bowel wall for sometimes around ten years! We need our bowel to be clear and free to take all the nutrients out of what we consume, in my understanding. My choice comes more from not wanting to be part of mans arrogant mass creation of animals for profit, at their expense.

F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

(11698)

on July 15, 2012
at 12:24 PM

Hi Kit - I have IBS and avoided red meat for 15 years because I was told it was "difficult to digest". However I find certain veggies much harder to digest, let alone beans and grains. Meat "lining the bowel for 10 years" sounds like a lot of the misinformation that is precisely NOT what Paleo is about. I am eating lots of red meat now, and feel better than ever. I am against feedlot meat, I only buy local organic grassed meat and animal products. Humans evolved eating meat, that's why I feel it's an integral part of the human diet. There are ethical ways of meat consumption.

F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

(11698)

on July 15, 2012
at 12:25 PM

Hi Kit - I have IBS and avoided red meat for 15 years because I was told it was "difficult to digest". However I find certain veggies much harder to digest, let alone beans and grains. Meat "lining the bowel for 10 years" sounds like a lot of the misinformation that is precisely NOT what Paleo is about. I am eating lots of red meat now, and feel better than ever. I am against feedlot meat, I only buy local organic grassed meat and animal products. Humans evolved eating meat, that's why I feel it's an integral part of the human diet. There are ethical ways of meat consumption. – Renee 0 secs ag

B52563f4689eb4bbac4feb68d4168e0a

on July 15, 2012
at 02:33 AM

Also, when 'man' first ate meat, I don't believe he had yet discovered how to make fire :) So he wouldn't have cooked any meat that he caught. By using heat, you destroy the proteins within. This goes for any foods I guess, but I don't think I could eat totally raw :) Raw eggs are good and I remember eating raw liver as a young child at the butchers with my mother! As well as raw steak! I wonder how the bowel deals with raw meat as opposed to cooked meat? Perhaps the acids in the stomach can more easily break down the former. Not that I plan on eating meat again, but it's interesting. :)

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98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

on July 13, 2012
at 12:23 AM

Welcome Kit! We have a few primal/paleo vegetarians here. You might want to hit the Tags tab at the top of the page and search on vegetarian. We've talked about it a lot.

Are you a vegetarian wanting to incorporate some paleo ideas into your diet?

Here's what we think of Quorn Apparently we don't think much of it. I love mushrooms but I don't consider them a great source of protein. They are part of dinner tonight though. Love em!

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on July 13, 2012
at 02:00 PM

Totally paleo..

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 13, 2012
at 01:02 PM

Now if this fungus culture was featured in traditional diets, it'd be totally paleo, wouldn't you say?

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on July 13, 2012
at 03:45 AM

Mushrooms are not bad, but they are no subsitute for meat. Can I ask why you are vegetarian?

B52563f4689eb4bbac4feb68d4168e0a

on July 15, 2012
at 02:22 AM

Hi there :) Why? As per my previous comment re mass production, as well as mass destruction of forests and rain forests for this purpose. Also, in my understanding, if I am able to live well on a diet of no animal flesh, then that fulfills my karmic path :) Thank you for asking :) Cheers Kit

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on July 13, 2012
at 05:44 AM

I recently did some research about Quorn. It is a myco protein, not exactly a mushroom.

I agree it is delicious, but it is also highly processed, so not really so Paleo.

Do you eat eggs? How about quinoa? Dairy (the grassfed kind)? I think these are all better alternatives than Quorn.

B52563f4689eb4bbac4feb68d4168e0a

on July 15, 2012
at 02:26 AM

Hi there, Quinoa is apparently on the 'foods to be avoided' list :) I guess I won't buy any more and maybe only eat what I have in the freezer on the odd occasion! I love the Schnitzels! But I bought this before I came across this Paleo understanding. I'm just going to try this all out and then see how my body responds :) Thank you Kit

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on July 13, 2012
at 05:07 AM

Quor isn't worth eating. Even when I was a vegetarian I didn't eat that stuff. It's made in artificial conditions so not great. Once in a while won't kill you though.

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on July 13, 2012
at 03:49 AM

Some food for thought...literally.

  1. Mushrooms are Paleo
  2. Mushrooms are versatile and have some benefits
  3. Mushrooms are a terrible source of protein compared to meat and even compared to other non-meat products
  4. Mushrooms can be VERY toxic

If you like them, great. I love Portabella's grilled as a bun for my grass-fed burgers. I love mushrooms in eggs or salad. However, they aren't the highlight of a dish nor are they ideal for overall "bang for your buck" consumption.

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on July 13, 2012
at 05:44 AM

I think mushrooms contain a lot of unique antioxidants and compounds that are very good for immune function.

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on July 13, 2012
at 06:10 AM

There's very few toxic mushrooms on this world. The worst most of them will do to you is make you nauseous or give you diarrhea.

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(4100)

on July 13, 2012
at 06:41 AM

@BoneBrothFast: Or make you see funny things ;-)

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