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Any experiences, good or bad, with MSM?

Answered on February 04, 2015
Created August 10, 2011 at 5:52 AM

And if so, what was your dosage? Was it MSM in straight form, or blended with Glucosamine/Chondroitin? Which did you prefer and why? Also, please include daily activity level. Specifically, I am a marathon runner and Crossfitter. Since starting Paleo, I don't really experience much muscle soreness (Omega 3 Fish Oil has helped immensely), but I am looking for quicker muscle recovery in order to get better results from harder and more frequent training.

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Quack Watch is lame site. That dude is an idiot. Really. Everything is quack to him. I agree about the need for higher standards in supplements tho. MSM/Glucosamine/HA need minimum of 6 months for any effect. I am not sure tho, if they have any. They will not harm anyway. HA seems to work great when put on gingival spots - I used it for me for gingivitis and baby on teeth growing pains.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 19, 2011
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If you can afford it, MSM/HA/Glucosamine combination might give some results after prolonged usage (minimum 6 months). This is still experimental IMO and effects are visible when you inject some of those into joint directly, alas, there is no guaranties that what you take orally will manage to travel to the spot where you want it to be. They can not harm, thats most important. They might create placebo effect which is good thing.

Glucosamine and HA are glycans. I am not sure how they even skip digestion to be honest. Digesting them may provide some components for later synthesis, but ... The same could be said for other claims like GSH. Glutathion will have no effect on internal levels as it will get digested - it will provide some substrates however, you have those in other foods like whey. Now, lipospheric GSH is entirely different beast although I am not aware of any out there.

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on February 04, 2015
at 09:50 PM

I started OptiMSM crystal power after I tried mixing the MSM in body lotions, which was successful in taking down inflammation, although I wanted more.  Began 500 mg twice a day and had gastric sides. Read you want to take with Vit C, so added 500 mg Vit and was able to up MSM dose to 4grms a day, split in half, following meals.  Amazing impact on lowering osteoarthritis type pain in lower spine.  Also noticed it shrank veins in my legs fading spider veins.  Hmm.  Gave my skin a nice lift too.  

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on December 15, 2011
at 05:38 AM

Glucosamine/MSM did nothing for me. Not even a placebo. :) I've also never heard of it being used to aide muscle recovery. A good muscle recovery supplement is Propinyl l-Carnitine (PLCAR). It also helps improve aerobic performance. It has an amazing effect and I'd highly recommend it.

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/nutraplanet/propionyl-l-carnitine-100-grams.html

If you are in fact having joint pain, Cissus was the only supplement I've tried that effectively relieved joint pain. Ultimately getting rid of systematic inflammation is the best long term solution, and fish oil can help. However, if you just want to get rid of joint pain quickly, buy some cissus and use regularly and the pain should go away within a week or so.

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/usplabs/super-cissus-rx-90-caps.html

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on December 15, 2011
at 05:05 AM

I used a powdered form of MSM at approximately 1g in one dose in the morning in the past to help some knee pain I was having. It seemed to really help, and nowadays I return to it when the chronic pain starts to creep in again, as the thought of taking lots of ibuprofen worries me (stomach bleeding, etc.) I've never trained as extensively as you, but when I used MSM successfully I was on my feet all day at work and hitting the gym about 5 days a week for both cardio and weights.

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on November 30, 2011
at 10:24 PM

I've only tried the MSM plus Vitamin C packets (Emergen-C) and kept getting hiccups. Plain Emergen-C didn't do this.

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on October 19, 2011
at 08:16 PM

Straight MSM did nothing for me, and it seems to negate the efficacy of glucosamine.

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on October 19, 2011
at 01:59 PM

I tried it in MSM Glucosamine combination for 3 months when I started having hip pain. It did nothing for me. My sports medicine doc advised the following:

  1. There are a lot of worthless MSM Glucosamine products on the market, be sure to but one from "the list" she had pulled together from Consumer Reports.

This from Quack Watch:

"Products In the United States, glucosamine and chondroitin products are marketed as "dietary supplements." Glucosamine is available in many forms, including glucosamine sulfate, glucosamine hydrochloride (HCl), and N-acetylglucosamine (NAG), and may also contain a potassium chloride or sodium chloride salt. However, there appears to be no conclusive evidence that one form is better than another. Chondroitin is typically sold as chondroitin sulfate.

In December 1999 and January 2000, ConsumerLab.com tested 25 brands of glucosamine, chondroitin and combination products and found that (a) all 10 glucosamine-only products, passed the test but 2 chondroitin-only and 6 out of 13 combination products did not (because their chondroitin levels were too low). In January 2001, one of the combination products was removed because its manganese level was judged to be too high [10]. ConsumerLab's latest report states that 8 out of 8 tested glucosamine products contained the label amount but 2 of 2 chondroitin products did not [11].

In 2001, Consumer Reports evaluated 19 products and reported:

Most . . . were reasonably well standardized, delivering at least 90 percent of the amount of glucosamine or chondroitin promised on the label, thereby meeting a new standard for the supplements proposed by the U.S. Pharmacopeia, which sets standards for drugs and proposes them for supplements. But four products —Now Double Strength Glucosamine & Chondroitin, ArthxDS Glucosamine Chondroitin, Solgar Extra Strength Glucosamine Chondroitin Complex, and Now Chondroitin Sulfate—failed to meet that standard. Two products—Solgar Extra Strength Glucosamine Chondroitin Complex and Twinlab CSA (Chondroitin Sulfate)—recommended too few pills per day to supply the dose used in the successful clinical trials. Several others listed the recommended number of pills as a range that permits consumers to take a dose that may be inadequate [12]."

  1. If it's going to work for you it will do so in 3 months or less. If it doesn't help you after 3 months, drop it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 19, 2011
at 02:18 PM

Quack Watch is lame site. That dude is an idiot. Really. Everything is quack to him. I agree about the need for higher standards in supplements tho. MSM/Glucosamine/HA need minimum of 6 months for any effect. I am not sure tho, if they have any. They will not harm anyway. HA seems to work great when put on gingival spots - I used it for me for gingivitis and baby on teeth growing pains.

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on August 10, 2011
at 07:55 AM

I use creatine, BCAA and a load of carbs after long workouts. Gym 4x week, ride up to 60km 3+ week.

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on August 10, 2011
at 07:07 AM

Beta-Alanine is the way to go for increased stamina and muscle recovery. I have had excellent results using it for almost two years. Only drawback is the weird hot, tingly sensation you get a few minutes after taking it. You get used to it though. Jarrow Formulas is a great brand 1000 mg. tablets.

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on August 10, 2011
at 06:17 AM

MSM doesn't seem to affect me very much. I workout with a trainer at a regular gym, but recently started Crossfit as well.

I do love BCAA's for muscle recovery tho!

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