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How to avoid losing muscle while laid up?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 29, 2012 at 1:33 AM

So I am in bed for 7-10 days and tired in-between and not feeling much like eating or moving. Is there anyway to minimize muscle loss? I know it's not super paleo, but maybe supplementing with a shake of some kind? Or supplements? It's not easy for me to get muscle and I hate losing it.

F15e0bae42dbf0b8cfc71e62902497b4

(2036)

on July 02, 2012
at 11:54 PM

So for you I'd say move a little bit throughout the day. Even little things like spending 5-10 minutes a couple times a day sitting at the edge of the bed instead of propped up on pillows can make a difference. Also going through your full range of motion on your joints every day. Put your arms up over your head, roll your neck, pull your knees up to your chest, wiggle your fingers and toes, little stuff like that will keep you from getting stiff. (source:I'm an occupational therapist and I work in a nursing home, so this is a really common thing)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 30, 2012
at 02:42 AM

suspected as much and then saw a related post. try meat based soups also, particularly anything with bone (including whole fish and chicken). stay positive!

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

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on June 29, 2012
at 06:25 PM

Chemo :-/ every two of three weeks I feel like crap

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

(4100)

on June 29, 2012
at 05:40 PM

Hi moonablaze. It's from high dose chemo. I go every three weeks (4 cycles so far, 2 more ahead) and then I spend about 1.5-2 of the three weeks in bed exhausted.

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(4347)

on June 29, 2012
at 12:49 PM

"For me the mental affects of being suddenly bald and ugly (people stare) and watching my body decline too...its very hard for me. " <-- First of all, you may be bald but you're not ugly. :) Second, can you find some kick-ass vintage scarves on Etsy or somewhere? My mom used to wear gorgeous silk scarves on her head when she was bald. She looked glamorous, even when I know she felt like crap. Anyway, you're awesome and beautiful, no matter how you feel right now. (And you're completely normal for being upset about it all!)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2012
at 03:33 AM

With muscle catabolism its not just a question of sufficient calories but of adequate protein intake. It is possible to be on a calorie restricted diet and yet gain muscle (without training) provided the protein content is sufficient.

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on June 29, 2012
at 02:36 AM

Hugs to you!!!!

1bbcd2122d9c75b07440f22ef57d6448

(2934)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:25 AM

Right. That... I think the complete lack of sleep is starting to affect me.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:09 AM

lmao... uhmmm yeah it is foreveryoung! Maybe it was an 'autocorrect" thing. Which reminds me. I need to check out damn you autocorrect .com Its been a while and I need a good laugh. SO FUNNY

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

(4100)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:04 AM

For me the mental affects of being suddenly bald and ugly (people stare) and watching my body decline too...its very hard for me. Almost as bad as the cancer in some ways. I find it hard to leave the house alone, I am so embarrassed sometimes. I feel like I look like an alien, but I guess that is for a whole other message board....

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:04 AM

Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't the word "catabolize," not "cannibalize?"

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on June 29, 2012
at 01:39 AM

I'm getting all mother hen, so please don't take offense. You're dealing with a lot health-wise right now if I'm not mistaken (based on previous posts). Please just rest and take care of yourself. You'll have time to regain more muscle later. That said, I was primary caregiver for my mom for a while when she was undergoing chemo. The only calories she consumed for a while were in the form of smoothies. I made them with avocado, coconut milk, whey protein, and usually some berries or almond butter/cocoa powder. She sipped them throughout the day. Wishing you good health.

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1bbcd2122d9c75b07440f22ef57d6448

(2934)

on June 29, 2012
at 01:40 AM

As long as you're eating enough, your body isn't going to catabolize muscle tissue for fuel. You won't make any strength gains, but you shouldn't see huge losses in such a short time. Just lighted your load a little bit when you get back to working out and you'll be back on track.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:04 AM

Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't the word "catabolize," not "cannibalize?"

1bbcd2122d9c75b07440f22ef57d6448

(2934)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:25 AM

Right. That... I think the complete lack of sleep is starting to affect me.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:09 AM

lmao... uhmmm yeah it is foreveryoung! Maybe it was an 'autocorrect" thing. Which reminds me. I need to check out damn you autocorrect .com Its been a while and I need a good laugh. SO FUNNY

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2012
at 03:33 AM

With muscle catabolism its not just a question of sufficient calories but of adequate protein intake. It is possible to be on a calorie restricted diet and yet gain muscle (without training) provided the protein content is sufficient.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:50 AM

Focus the emphasis of protein in your diet. A protein shake is a convenient way to ensure you're getting enough.

Try to do some calisthenic and stretching type exercises based on what you can tolerate.

If you watch TV keep it to comedies. Try to do some light reading (in other words avoid the possibility of releasing more cortisol than you need to).

Are you able to provide some context as to why you are bedridden for this time?

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

(4100)

on June 29, 2012
at 06:25 PM

Chemo :-/ every two of three weeks I feel like crap

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 30, 2012
at 02:42 AM

suspected as much and then saw a related post. try meat based soups also, particularly anything with bone (including whole fish and chicken). stay positive!

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4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

on June 29, 2012
at 01:41 AM

I think that's a great idea!

I personally really like Whey Cool by Designs for Health. I get plain and add some berries and a bit of stevia or xylitol if needed (not perfectly Paleo.... BFD :)

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Cf416725f639ffd1bb90764792ce7b8a

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on June 29, 2012
at 02:24 AM

I like a whey protein isolate shake with one ounce heavy cream and 5 ounces of water. Cold or micro filtered whey is best.

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F15e0bae42dbf0b8cfc71e62902497b4

on June 29, 2012
at 04:51 AM

Why are you on bed rest? Is it because your entire body cannot handle activity (as in cardiovascular issues or other body-wide issues) or is it because one part must be allowed to stay still (as in surgery where you need to avoid tearing the stitches)? if it's the latter you can keep the rest of your body moving and avoid a lot of atrophy.

No mater how much protein you eat, you will lose muscle if you don't use it. even if you're not using it to it's full strength, using the muscle will help.

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

(4100)

on June 29, 2012
at 05:40 PM

Hi moonablaze. It's from high dose chemo. I go every three weeks (4 cycles so far, 2 more ahead) and then I spend about 1.5-2 of the three weeks in bed exhausted.

F15e0bae42dbf0b8cfc71e62902497b4

(2036)

on July 02, 2012
at 11:54 PM

So for you I'd say move a little bit throughout the day. Even little things like spending 5-10 minutes a couple times a day sitting at the edge of the bed instead of propped up on pillows can make a difference. Also going through your full range of motion on your joints every day. Put your arms up over your head, roll your neck, pull your knees up to your chest, wiggle your fingers and toes, little stuff like that will keep you from getting stiff. (source:I'm an occupational therapist and I work in a nursing home, so this is a really common thing)

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518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:36 AM

If you are eating enough, the muscles won't go away, but they may get very sore from lying down for so long! If you have someone to help you out, getting a gentle massage one or two times a day should help significantly. Even self massage can be useful, but can be limited by ranges of motion. I like to rub a little bit of peppermint oil in the back of my neck, the tingling and smell reminds me to relax my shoulders which helps prevent muscle soreness (also, if you are vomiting, the peppermint oil really cuts through the smell and makes it easier to eat!).

Good luck on your journey, it sounds like you are going through a lot and I wish you all the best.

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