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Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 05, 2012 at 11:36 AM

hi , I am
supplementing with the following minerals .

Selenium Iodine zinc Copper Magnesium Potassium

question can chelated minerals be taken together..or do they compete... or which ones can be take together .

goodluck chessguy.

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on June 06, 2012
at 04:28 AM

Geez, sorry.. I have been working on this issue for almost a year, but only testing every 4 months. Thanks

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on June 06, 2012
at 04:25 AM

cont'd: This surprised me as I felt I had addressed any copper in my environment or diet BUT.... I had been taking a lot of Tumeric and its possible that increased my copper.Not sure of course buy read that one of the top ten sources of copper is dried herbs. I was taking 8 Oregon Wild Harvest Organic Turmeric caps per day and nothing else had changed! Anyway I stopped those and upped the Moly to 2000mg total per day as my Nutritionist's recommendation. Can you see an ND in Australia?

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on June 06, 2012
at 04:22 AM

Glad to help!I am actually still on the regimen as Im trying to get it even lower (its in reference range but not optimal.My ND is great and was totally fine with checking my levels, and appreciated the book as well. She only recommend the Zinc to bring it down. She feels the Zinc bloods levels are worth while. I haven't heard otherwise.I pass all the Zinc taste tests, always have.My nutritionist friend agreed but said that I also need molybdenum.He works a lot with cancer & copper is a big deal with cancer We increased the moly. at some point as the copper level came down but went back up.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on June 06, 2012
at 04:14 AM

thx Crowlover, good to hear you are on the mend (or "fixed"). how long on the zinc & moly supps did it take before you copper was back within range? & did you doctor have any doubts about the usefulness of zinc & copper blood tests? i have read that some people view the zinc blood test as meaningless (of not much value) & similarly (tho not as strong) views on the blood copper test being meaningless (valueless?). The ceruoloplasm test seems to have more supporters, tho i would think ceruoloplasm alone is not going to tell you much?

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on June 06, 2012
at 03:16 AM

continued: I looked into it further as I had had a copper IUD for 6 years as well as we had just re-plumbed our old house with all new copper wire & I was drinking tap water at the time:( Sure enough, my copper was outside of the reference range at 165. I used Zinc (100% whole food form from Innate Response (120mg day) and Molybdenum (2000mg per day) and my copper went down within range! I still take both as I want it a bit lower or rather I want my blood level of zinc to copper to be closer to 2:1. They also tested my level of ceruoloplasm & it was wnl.

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on June 06, 2012
at 03:11 AM

Hi Daz, I've had issues with depression, mostly related to low thyroid or whacky sex hormones but those got ameliorated, yet I had a serious depression that just made no sense to me.I felt strongly there was a physical/biological cause & looked into many things (including the MTHFR gene mutation).My nutritionist friend mentioned a book by an "Integrative Psychiatrist" called The Breakthrough Depression Solution: A Personalized 9-Step Method for Beating the Physical Causes of Your Depression by James Greenblatt. MD.He mentioned copper as one of the causes of depression!!

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on June 06, 2012
at 01:46 AM

Also, what were the blood tests, i seem to remember asking my doctor (in Australia) in the past for zinc and copper tests, & he just looked at me like i was mad. i think because he had never requested such tests in the past, he just fobbed it off & i never pushed the request, it was just something i would have been interested in knowing.

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on June 06, 2012
at 01:37 AM

Hi Crowlover, i have also been wondering about my zinc & copper levels. What made you think that your copper levels may be high in the first place and to go and get tested. And why do you think you ended up with high copper.

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on June 05, 2012
at 11:08 PM

Because restating the entire question is helpful?

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543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on June 06, 2012
at 02:04 AM

I have not seen or read any research myself that relates to your specific question,
but that said, my guess would be that as these minerals exist together in foods, then it should be fine to take as supplements together.
It may even be better to take them together......keep things more balanced....

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on June 05, 2012
at 05:37 PM

Zinc lowers copper you should know. My copper is WAYyyyyyyyyyy too high and I have been using Zinc and Molybdenum to lower it.
You may want to have your copper level checked via blood before you take it.
High copper can be bad, bad news (as can low) and many people are too high. Its a neuro-toxin at high doses.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on June 06, 2012
at 01:46 AM

Also, what were the blood tests, i seem to remember asking my doctor (in Australia) in the past for zinc and copper tests, & he just looked at me like i was mad. i think because he had never requested such tests in the past, he just fobbed it off & i never pushed the request, it was just something i would have been interested in knowing.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 06, 2012
at 03:11 AM

Hi Daz, I've had issues with depression, mostly related to low thyroid or whacky sex hormones but those got ameliorated, yet I had a serious depression that just made no sense to me.I felt strongly there was a physical/biological cause & looked into many things (including the MTHFR gene mutation).My nutritionist friend mentioned a book by an "Integrative Psychiatrist" called The Breakthrough Depression Solution: A Personalized 9-Step Method for Beating the Physical Causes of Your Depression by James Greenblatt. MD.He mentioned copper as one of the causes of depression!!

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 06, 2012
at 04:28 AM

Geez, sorry.. I have been working on this issue for almost a year, but only testing every 4 months. Thanks

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 06, 2012
at 04:22 AM

Glad to help!I am actually still on the regimen as Im trying to get it even lower (its in reference range but not optimal.My ND is great and was totally fine with checking my levels, and appreciated the book as well. She only recommend the Zinc to bring it down. She feels the Zinc bloods levels are worth while. I haven't heard otherwise.I pass all the Zinc taste tests, always have.My nutritionist friend agreed but said that I also need molybdenum.He works a lot with cancer & copper is a big deal with cancer We increased the moly. at some point as the copper level came down but went back up.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on June 06, 2012
at 01:37 AM

Hi Crowlover, i have also been wondering about my zinc & copper levels. What made you think that your copper levels may be high in the first place and to go and get tested. And why do you think you ended up with high copper.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on June 06, 2012
at 04:14 AM

thx Crowlover, good to hear you are on the mend (or "fixed"). how long on the zinc & moly supps did it take before you copper was back within range? & did you doctor have any doubts about the usefulness of zinc & copper blood tests? i have read that some people view the zinc blood test as meaningless (of not much value) & similarly (tho not as strong) views on the blood copper test being meaningless (valueless?). The ceruoloplasm test seems to have more supporters, tho i would think ceruoloplasm alone is not going to tell you much?

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 06, 2012
at 04:25 AM

cont'd: This surprised me as I felt I had addressed any copper in my environment or diet BUT.... I had been taking a lot of Tumeric and its possible that increased my copper.Not sure of course buy read that one of the top ten sources of copper is dried herbs. I was taking 8 Oregon Wild Harvest Organic Turmeric caps per day and nothing else had changed! Anyway I stopped those and upped the Moly to 2000mg total per day as my Nutritionist's recommendation. Can you see an ND in Australia?

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 06, 2012
at 03:16 AM

continued: I looked into it further as I had had a copper IUD for 6 years as well as we had just re-plumbed our old house with all new copper wire & I was drinking tap water at the time:( Sure enough, my copper was outside of the reference range at 165. I used Zinc (100% whole food form from Innate Response (120mg day) and Molybdenum (2000mg per day) and my copper went down within range! I still take both as I want it a bit lower or rather I want my blood level of zinc to copper to be closer to 2:1. They also tested my level of ceruoloplasm & it was wnl.

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on June 05, 2012
at 08:54 PM

I am aware zinc lowers copper,and t0o much copper can cause "issues "

but I am looking for a response on the following

supplementing with the following minerals .

Selenium Iodine zinc Copper Magnesium Potassium

question can ch-elated minerals be taken together..or do they compete... or which ones can be take together .

chessguy

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on June 05, 2012
at 11:08 PM

Because restating the entire question is helpful?

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