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why is pasteurized milk villified?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 01, 2013 at 6:45 PM

raw milk is complete with enzymes so that those who are lactose intolerant can better digest it, but i don't see the harm in pasteurized milk when proteins are denatured in your stomach anyway.

is the pasteurized milk scare much ado about nothing?

62fafa8cb15af7c562fa8c270f7b6174

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on February 03, 2013
at 05:25 PM

I prefer the more safely produced raw milk, which restricts these bacteria, than pasteurized milk where these bacteria are expected, tolerated, killed and included in the milk with all their waste products.

90ca1400d597cff69ec5f9c193c4d667

on February 03, 2013
at 03:44 AM

lol, i don't care what's "paleo" or what our ancestors did...i hate that justification....i drink organic soda everyday...it's not paleo, but it keeps cortisol levels down and helps to digest proteins by balancing blood sugar...it's people like you that over think diet and are too focused on the past...wake up, it's 2013

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on February 02, 2013
at 04:28 AM

If lactobacillus can thrive on pasteurized milk I shouldn't be too worried about it. Why...those little guys are processing the milk beyond belief...probably pooping in it too...

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on February 02, 2013
at 04:21 AM

Most people here presume the existence of refrigerators, which are a useful substitute for pasteurization in keeping raw milk sanitary enough that it doesn't kill you. But neither refrigerators nor pasteurization are paleo. It seems ironic that paleos invoke the Neolithic tocsin over one but not the other...

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on February 02, 2013
at 04:16 AM

Milk is a perfect medium for bacteria. There's a lot greater chance of E. coli, listeria, brucellosis and tuberculosis multiplying if they are allowed to survive.

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on February 02, 2013
at 04:13 AM

Processed beyond belief? Can you say bacon?

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on February 02, 2013
at 03:33 AM

Milk fat is like what, 2% polyunsaturated? Well below the amount where a fat will be prone to oxidation.

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on February 02, 2013
at 02:30 AM

All I know is that my mom can drink raw milk just fine, but if she drinks pasteurized milk she gets sick.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

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on February 02, 2013
at 02:30 AM

^It also exposes the fat molecules to a larger surface area and thus makes it more prone to oxidation. Since we know that milk is not 100% saturated fat, the fat in milk is prone to oxidation.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on February 02, 2013
at 02:22 AM

Same here! My "farmer's market" has great milk that's also perfect for homemade yogurt.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on February 02, 2013
at 12:03 AM

Hey me too, lol.

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on February 01, 2013
at 08:41 PM

I second what Matt says. From what I hear homogenization actually makes the milk fat more digestible.

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on February 01, 2013
at 08:25 PM

Homogenizing milk is simply mixing it under pressure. Small fat globules in homogenized milk are actually touted as more digestible. There are much worse things you could do to milk.

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Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on February 01, 2013
at 06:58 PM

Advocates of raw milk typically also suggest grass fed milk, and the two typically come together from what I've seen. I wouldn't say that lightly pasteurized milk is vilified here anymore than conventional meats would be. Many people here don't seem to even drink milk at all.

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on February 01, 2013
at 09:28 PM

Raw milk is probably better (more B12, glutamylcysteine, lactoferrin, and probiotic bacteria), but that doesn't mean pasteurized milk is bad if you're tolerant of it. I personally consume dairy primarily as vat pasteurized milk from grass fed cows and really doubt it's negatively affecting my health.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10979)

on February 02, 2013
at 12:03 AM

Hey me too, lol.

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(10601)

on February 02, 2013
at 04:28 AM

If lactobacillus can thrive on pasteurized milk I shouldn't be too worried about it. Why...those little guys are processing the milk beyond belief...probably pooping in it too...

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on February 02, 2013
at 02:22 AM

Same here! My "farmer's market" has great milk that's also perfect for homemade yogurt.

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62fafa8cb15af7c562fa8c270f7b6174

on February 01, 2013
at 08:10 PM

Raw milk is generally much cleaner than pasteurized homogenized milk. Pasteurized milk has established limits for contaminants like blood, pus, and fecal matter that are not tolerated at all in raw milk.

Raw milk is collected and bottled in small quantities, which minimizes risk for contamination. Pasteurized milk combines collects contaminants from a wide area, a large number of sources, all in one place.

Lower standard for the milk lowers the standard of cleanliness for the cows as well, this allows a larger herd to be kept on smaller acreage and fed a lower quality feed.

Homogenization alters the fat molecules in ways that are believed to inhibit absorption and they are more susceptible to oxidation.

A comparison: http://organicpastures.com/whyraw.html

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on February 02, 2013
at 04:16 AM

Milk is a perfect medium for bacteria. There's a lot greater chance of E. coli, listeria, brucellosis and tuberculosis multiplying if they are allowed to survive.

62fafa8cb15af7c562fa8c270f7b6174

(619)

on February 03, 2013
at 05:25 PM

I prefer the more safely produced raw milk, which restricts these bacteria, than pasteurized milk where these bacteria are expected, tolerated, killed and included in the milk with all their waste products.

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on February 01, 2013
at 07:47 PM

It is not only pasteurized, it is also homogenized as well. It means - processed beyond belief. So basically if you want to buy raw whole milk and pasteurize it yourself - go ahead. But boiled milk does not taste as well as raw and, as we know, taste is a powerful indicator of what is good for you. Taste buds came a long evolutionary way to tell your brain just that.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on February 02, 2013
at 02:30 AM

All I know is that my mom can drink raw milk just fine, but if she drinks pasteurized milk she gets sick.

Medium avatar

(10601)

on February 02, 2013
at 04:13 AM

Processed beyond belief? Can you say bacon?

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 01, 2013
at 08:41 PM

I second what Matt says. From what I hear homogenization actually makes the milk fat more digestible.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on February 01, 2013
at 08:25 PM

Homogenizing milk is simply mixing it under pressure. Small fat globules in homogenized milk are actually touted as more digestible. There are much worse things you could do to milk.

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12672)

on February 02, 2013
at 03:33 AM

Milk fat is like what, 2% polyunsaturated? Well below the amount where a fat will be prone to oxidation.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on February 02, 2013
at 02:30 AM

^It also exposes the fat molecules to a larger surface area and thus makes it more prone to oxidation. Since we know that milk is not 100% saturated fat, the fat in milk is prone to oxidation.

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90ca1400d597cff69ec5f9c193c4d667

on February 01, 2013
at 07:11 PM

there is no harm...i drink it everyday and tolerate it better than raw....it's more important that it's grass-fed, and there are no added vitamins/fillers, etc. and non-homogenized is good too....raw vs. pasteurized is the least of my concerns when buying milk

Medium avatar

(10601)

on February 02, 2013
at 04:21 AM

Most people here presume the existence of refrigerators, which are a useful substitute for pasteurization in keeping raw milk sanitary enough that it doesn't kill you. But neither refrigerators nor pasteurization are paleo. It seems ironic that paleos invoke the Neolithic tocsin over one but not the other...

90ca1400d597cff69ec5f9c193c4d667

on February 03, 2013
at 03:44 AM

lol, i don't care what's "paleo" or what our ancestors did...i hate that justification....i drink organic soda everyday...it's not paleo, but it keeps cortisol levels down and helps to digest proteins by balancing blood sugar...it's people like you that over think diet and are too focused on the past...wake up, it's 2013

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