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Reintroducing Cow Dairy/Casein

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created June 27, 2012 at 11:17 PM

I've always loved cow milk until I was 18, which is a year ago. It was also when I ate SAD diet and had weekly migraines.

I began an elimination diet and felt better. I realized that I react badly to gluten, unfermented soy, and all PUFA vegetable oils. I switched to goat milk which helped me tremendously, but due to its price, I drank cow milk after a month of not drinking it. I had bad reaction to it, so I then tried raw, grass fed A2 type milk from Jersey cows. I still had bad reaction. Hoping that milk would grow on me, I continued drinking the raw milk but got headaches, acne, skin rashes, and joint pains. Even though a month absence from gluten and such made me feel better (no more migraines, not sick as often, and no more bloody acne), I was sad that I can't tolerate any sort of cow milk anymore. I tried a few months later with a sip of Clover Organic milk and got acne flares again.

To be honest, I don't know if cow milk was good for me in the first place, since I never paid attention to food and my acne before hitting 18. These days, cow milk would get me acne, and on a constant amount, bring my headaches and joint aches. I do completely fine with butter and heavy cream, but not yogurt, kefirs (even homemade cow kefir), cheese (which is why I think this is a casein problem, not lactose).

Still, goat milk is so expensive and I want to reintroduce the cheaper cow milk back. I am not sure it's a good idea though, as maybe cow milk truly is bad for me after all. I have a bit of a milk addiction in general, which is common with Autistic spectrum, so it's my autistic tendencies that are controlling me.

A few hours ago from now I just ate a tiny cup of Haagen Dazs ice cream, a few months after my last attempt at trying milk, and I am having a bit of acne and a drowsy headache.

I know the smart thing would be is to just stick with goat milk and never turn back, or quit drinking goat milk and milk altogether to save more money. But I WANT MILK. Has anyone with my type of reactions successfully introduced cow milk back? Or should I just not attempt reintroduction at all, considering that I seem to have acne and headaches right away?

I sound pathetic but I want help on this. I don't have any other type of affinity or addictions.

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on July 01, 2012
at 02:09 PM

You're right. I tried a small dose of ice cream today and got into a brain fog. I wasn't able to work on anything for the day. ):

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on June 28, 2012
at 11:42 PM

My answer to his question is that he should drink only goats milk, or not drink any milk at all. If he wants to drink milk, he should realize the trade off is that he'll get acne. So my point is that he needs to decide what's more important, drinking milk, or not having acne. And pick the one he values more.

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on June 28, 2012
at 01:14 PM

Shawn, perhaps only offer responses that actually answer the question. The site is here to offer help and responses.

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

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on June 28, 2012
at 05:50 AM

Thank you. That's the brand all stores have

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

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on June 28, 2012
at 05:49 AM

Might as well buy more goat milk if I had money for therapy

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on June 28, 2012
at 01:08 AM

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Meyenberg-Goat-Milk-1-qt/10818414

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

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on June 28, 2012
at 12:39 AM

That doesn't answer any of my questions.

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

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on June 28, 2012
at 12:39 AM

There's no walmart where I live nor do I have a car, but what's the brand name? The only two I know of are Meyenberg and Summerhill, I am in Venice CA.

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

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on June 28, 2012
at 12:14 AM

I still react to yogurt and kefir

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

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on June 28, 2012
at 12:14 AM

Fermented dairy still has casein, right? Would it be different between fermented dairy's casein and regular milk's?

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on June 28, 2012
at 12:22 PM

There are three problems here. The GI upset is almost certainly lactose intolerance. Stopping all milk will stop the gut making lactase, so when you wait a while, the lactase will all be gone and a challenge of the gut with more lactose-containing milk will give even worse GI upset. There are only two treatments. One is to use lactaid - the milk products with no lactose in them.The other is to stay completely away from all milk. The second problem is the possibility of true milk allergy - the headaches and joint aches are highly suggestive and your history is pretty good regarding timing of dairy consumption and symptoms. There is only one therapy - no dairy - and that likely includes anything that includes cow-derived proteins (whey and casein) because proteins are the most allergenic part of dairy. Third, the hormones that are a natural part of all dairy products are driving your acne. While you may 'grow out of' this problem, it is likely that it will be a lifetime sentence. There really is no alternative in your situation. Animal-sourced dairy is 'out'. Learn about egg and soy and pea and hemp proteins and fluid milk substitutes from many sources.

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

(1453)

on July 01, 2012
at 02:09 PM

You're right. I tried a small dose of ice cream today and got into a brain fog. I wasn't able to work on anything for the day. ):

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on July 02, 2013
at 10:51 PM

I git this wierd problem if i dont drink goats milk i get migraines anyone have any suggestions.

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on June 28, 2012
at 02:00 AM

Is this a milk addiction? Maybe it's time to seek help.

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

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on June 28, 2012
at 05:49 AM

Might as well buy more goat milk if I had money for therapy

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Cf416725f639ffd1bb90764792ce7b8a

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on June 28, 2012
at 12:31 AM

They have goat's milk in cartons at my local walmart. I don't recall the exact price but it didn't seem that much higher than cow's milk.

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

(1453)

on June 28, 2012
at 05:50 AM

Thank you. That's the brand all stores have

Cf416725f639ffd1bb90764792ce7b8a

(2799)

on June 28, 2012
at 01:08 AM

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Meyenberg-Goat-Milk-1-qt/10818414

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

(1453)

on June 28, 2012
at 12:39 AM

There's no walmart where I live nor do I have a car, but what's the brand name? The only two I know of are Meyenberg and Summerhill, I am in Venice CA.

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91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

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on June 28, 2012
at 12:09 AM

You need to decide what you value more; drinking cow milk or having clear skin and no reactions. They seem to be mutually exclusive for you, so you'll need to pick one.

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

(1453)

on June 28, 2012
at 12:39 AM

That doesn't answer any of my questions.

Ebcbbdcb8b727e69e06eaa102d49a84c

(1804)

on June 28, 2012
at 01:14 PM

Shawn, perhaps only offer responses that actually answer the question. The site is here to offer help and responses.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 28, 2012
at 11:42 PM

My answer to his question is that he should drink only goats milk, or not drink any milk at all. If he wants to drink milk, he should realize the trade off is that he'll get acne. So my point is that he needs to decide what's more important, drinking milk, or not having acne. And pick the one he values more.

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3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

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on June 27, 2012
at 11:57 PM

If it's breaking you out and causing some sort of digestive distress, you should probably just cut it out and wait until your body heals. Then you'll probably be able to tolerate dairy. Either way, traditional dairy consumption was almost always from fermented dairy so at the very least if you insist on eating dairy, it should be fermented.

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

(1453)

on June 28, 2012
at 12:14 AM

Fermented dairy still has casein, right? Would it be different between fermented dairy's casein and regular milk's?

8e10b687e328468783a72c55b64710e8

(1453)

on June 28, 2012
at 12:14 AM

I still react to yogurt and kefir

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