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Feeding my son raw milk?

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Created August 17, 2012 at 10:31 AM

My son is 10 months old and I would like to start introducing him to cow's milk. At what age is it safe to give him unpasteurized milk? We have a great local supplier of organic, raw milk and I do not want him drinking any pasteurized and homogenized milk even if it is organic.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on July 26, 2013
at 02:06 AM

CD, I know in other species that is not the case. The window for passive antibody transfer is only open briefly and after that, you're out of luck.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 21, 2012
at 01:47 AM

@Chris, Snark certainly doesn't deserve a downvote in my mind. I do question the miracles that raw milk is purported to do, and certainly coming from dairy background understand how important hygiene is and how lacking it is in some dairies.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 21, 2012
at 01:44 AM

@Grocket, thanks for the link, I'll give it a once over at some point.

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on August 20, 2012
at 08:06 PM

Oh--and down-voting a reasoned answer based solely on one's infering a "sarcastic" tone also seems pathetic. Don't like the tone? How about editing the response, or asking the respondent to revise it, so a reasonable argument doesn't get lost because of folks' delicate sensibilities? Punitive down-voting is a lot easier and provides that important sense of retribution so many seem to need. Perhaps this represents the sublimation of a frustrated instinct to hunt and kill that we just can't get from the supermarket.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on August 20, 2012
at 08:03 PM

Yeah, I think wasting down-votes on this seems pretty effing pathetic. I might not agree that the benefits are dubious, but I'm not going to down-vote you for believing it--especially since this issue is the subject of much current controversy, and there are no definitive answers yet.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on August 20, 2012
at 04:50 PM

Unless it has a lab slip taped to the front and is consumed immediately, I don't know that I would either. Maybe just because it's illegal here so there's no testing on it, I would avoid it in pregnancy, for little kids, and those immunocompramised.

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on August 20, 2012
at 01:08 PM

Many of the nutrients in raw milk are destroyed or reduced in the pasteurization process. Chris Masterjohn wrote a great article on this topic at http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/2010/09/11/the-biochemical-magic-of-raw-milk-and-other-raw-foods-glutathione/ The first few graphs show some examples.

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on August 20, 2012
at 12:00 PM

Matt, antibodies are passed from mother to child via breast milk for as long as the child is feeding. However, the colostrum is the highest concentration, and after 6 months the child is producing anti-bodies at a self sustaining rate. At that point breastfeeding is more about providing a good quality (or rather best quality) nutrition to the child and bonding between child and mother.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on August 19, 2012
at 01:47 AM

Nope. Let me track down some sources for you.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 18, 2012
at 11:57 PM

Hrm, I thought passive immunity passed from mother to child was limited to the first few weeks of life, when colostrum production is occurring.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 18, 2012
at 11:56 PM

Ho ho, doubt the raw milkers, invite the their wrath via downvotes. :)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 17, 2012
at 07:19 PM

It's not sarcasm, it's thinking critically. All the enzyme hoodoo stuff... it's junk.

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on August 17, 2012
at 06:44 PM

Wow Matt! I wasn't looking for any sarcasm, just some answers. I am simply trying to provide food to my child that is processed as little as possible.

46c9fbd45b82453f6a2dfe614a853314

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on August 17, 2012
at 06:42 PM

I have not found a goats milk supplier that is close enough for me to include in my weekly routine.

57bef671ea7e05631c9fa56f708bcaa9

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on August 17, 2012
at 01:43 PM

Sorry, maybe I should have said enzymes instead of lactase specifically. Still disagree about the nutrients though - they are largely destroyed by pasteurization (I'm talking vitamins and minerals)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 17, 2012
at 12:46 PM

Milk does not have lactase in it. It's hardly void of real nutrients either.

57bef671ea7e05631c9fa56f708bcaa9

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on August 17, 2012
at 12:21 PM

While I agree with you that the risks may be too high in this case, your snarkiness is really off-putting to me. Pastureized milk that is "simply" cooked is pretty void of any real nutrients, and the missing lactase causes real issues for a lot of people. There is a case for consuming raw milk over pasteurized, just maybe not for a 10 month old.

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on August 17, 2012
at 11:17 AM

Why not goat's milk? It is much preferred as a supplement when breastmilk isn't available.

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on August 17, 2012
at 11:16 AM

I probably wouldn't either. Their immune systems aren't as strong as yours.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on August 17, 2012
at 01:11 PM

If you can drink it safely & are still breastfeeding, you will pass on any needed antibodies to him. Maybe give his immune system a couple more months while YOU drink the milk, before introducing it to him.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on August 19, 2012
at 01:47 AM

Nope. Let me track down some sources for you.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on August 20, 2012
at 12:00 PM

Matt, antibodies are passed from mother to child via breast milk for as long as the child is feeding. However, the colostrum is the highest concentration, and after 6 months the child is producing anti-bodies at a self sustaining rate. At that point breastfeeding is more about providing a good quality (or rather best quality) nutrition to the child and bonding between child and mother.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on August 18, 2012
at 11:57 PM

Hrm, I thought passive immunity passed from mother to child was limited to the first few weeks of life, when colostrum production is occurring.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on July 26, 2013
at 02:06 AM

CD, I know in other species that is not the case. The window for passive antibody transfer is only open briefly and after that, you're out of luck.

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Ef26f888ed248de197c37a4cb04ef4a7

on August 17, 2012
at 11:12 AM

Honestly, I wouldn't risk it with a 10 month old.

E3474e4efbcc6c1deab28e268ad6eb01

(341)

on August 17, 2012
at 11:16 AM

I probably wouldn't either. Their immune systems aren't as strong as yours.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on August 20, 2012
at 04:50 PM

Unless it has a lab slip taped to the front and is consumed immediately, I don't know that I would either. Maybe just because it's illegal here so there's no testing on it, I would avoid it in pregnancy, for little kids, and those immunocompramised.

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on August 17, 2012
at 11:45 AM

My daughter has been drinking fresh, organic milk from grass fed Jersey cows since she turned 1. Has never touched the dead stuff (pasteurized) from the store.

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Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

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on August 17, 2012
at 12:20 PM

Why not try raw cheese instead for couple of months.You didn't mention if you're breastfeeding,if that's the case wait a little longer for the milk.I also started my son on raw milk when he turned 1,but it tends to give children congestion,so watch out for that

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7f1e48db1bee85b9ef8a4bc4baedd044

on August 17, 2012
at 11:58 AM

Just make sure the milk isn't causing dairy intolerance issues such as excessive mucus or digestive upsets. You could also mix/substitute it with free-range raw egg yolks. It's even better if you could get fertilized eggs, as their avidin(the main allergen in egg whites) are deactivated. Goat's milk might cause less issues than cow's milk.

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1ccc0b0b7a756cd42466cef8f450d0cb

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on August 20, 2012
at 01:13 PM

Obviously it is hard to say how your baby will respond but I know that the Weston A. Price foundation recommends raw cow or goat milk as the base for a homemade formula when baby isn't getting enough from Mom. I asked Chris Kresser a similar question and this was his response: "I tend to think that dairy should be one of the later foods to be introduced, whether raw or pasteurized. We started introducing it slowly and in small amounts with our daughter Sylvie at about 9 months."

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 17, 2012
at 12:04 PM

Why risk raw? Risks are real (manageable if you control it from animal to mouth, which however you do not) and benefits are dubious.

Also pasteurized milk is simply cooked, why not consume everything raw then?

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on August 17, 2012
at 12:46 PM

Milk does not have lactase in it. It's hardly void of real nutrients either.

57bef671ea7e05631c9fa56f708bcaa9

(258)

on August 17, 2012
at 01:43 PM

Sorry, maybe I should have said enzymes instead of lactase specifically. Still disagree about the nutrients though - they are largely destroyed by pasteurization (I'm talking vitamins and minerals)

57bef671ea7e05631c9fa56f708bcaa9

(258)

on August 17, 2012
at 12:21 PM

While I agree with you that the risks may be too high in this case, your snarkiness is really off-putting to me. Pastureized milk that is "simply" cooked is pretty void of any real nutrients, and the missing lactase causes real issues for a lot of people. There is a case for consuming raw milk over pasteurized, just maybe not for a 10 month old.

46c9fbd45b82453f6a2dfe614a853314

(1876)

on August 17, 2012
at 06:44 PM

Wow Matt! I wasn't looking for any sarcasm, just some answers. I am simply trying to provide food to my child that is processed as little as possible.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on August 17, 2012
at 07:19 PM

It's not sarcasm, it's thinking critically. All the enzyme hoodoo stuff... it's junk.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on August 21, 2012
at 01:44 AM

@Grocket, thanks for the link, I'll give it a once over at some point.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on August 20, 2012
at 08:03 PM

Yeah, I think wasting down-votes on this seems pretty effing pathetic. I might not agree that the benefits are dubious, but I'm not going to down-vote you for believing it--especially since this issue is the subject of much current controversy, and there are no definitive answers yet.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on August 21, 2012
at 01:47 AM

@Chris, Snark certainly doesn't deserve a downvote in my mind. I do question the miracles that raw milk is purported to do, and certainly coming from dairy background understand how important hygiene is and how lacking it is in some dairies.

1ccc0b0b7a756cd42466cef8f450d0cb

(1801)

on August 20, 2012
at 01:08 PM

Many of the nutrients in raw milk are destroyed or reduced in the pasteurization process. Chris Masterjohn wrote a great article on this topic at http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/2010/09/11/the-biochemical-magic-of-raw-milk-and-other-raw-foods-glutathione/ The first few graphs show some examples.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on August 18, 2012
at 11:56 PM

Ho ho, doubt the raw milkers, invite the their wrath via downvotes. :)

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on August 20, 2012
at 08:06 PM

Oh--and down-voting a reasoned answer based solely on one's infering a "sarcastic" tone also seems pathetic. Don't like the tone? How about editing the response, or asking the respondent to revise it, so a reasonable argument doesn't get lost because of folks' delicate sensibilities? Punitive down-voting is a lot easier and provides that important sense of retribution so many seem to need. Perhaps this represents the sublimation of a frustrated instinct to hunt and kill that we just can't get from the supermarket.

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