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Previously pure paleo and healthy Fiance is at AIT (individual military training) and is losing health steadily due to SAD only options. Please help me help him make the best of the tools available

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 16, 2012 at 12:25 AM

My fiance is currently learning his trade in advanced individual training (ait) for the military. He is only allowed to eat at the mess hall and may not have food in his room. There is a PX and GNC on base. He is allowed standard supplements/vitamins but nothing weird and no protein shakes or performance enhancers.

I would REALLY appreciate any advice you could give. He is really going down hill recently. Constant lethargy and he is in much more pain than usual. His knees and hips are especially troublesome. I believe this is caused by switching to being a sugar burner with poor fuel and a ton of omega 6 with NO omega 3 anywhere in sight.

Currently available food:

(fat/protein)

Meat -often slathered in mystery gravies but occasionally a stir fry or steak.

Eggs- that are labeled free range but come as liquid in a bag (breakfast only)

Milk- only 1 percent or chocolate

black or green olives.

no butter, half and half, or cream. No avocado.

salad dressings- all soybean oil based standards

blue cheese only apparently.

occasional fish- only white fishes likely tilapia

(fruits)

usually apples or melon/pineapple. Kind of a weird selection. Rarely there are bananas and never berries. Only raisins.

(veg)

typical salad bar at most institutions. Romaine lettuce, raw broccoli, cauliflower, onions, tomatoes, carrots

cooked-peas carrots broccoli green beans

(starches)

Mostly breads and pastas

potatoes -hash browns, french fries, mashed potato (likely instant)

All I can think of is the following

*any meat that is not covered in crap. It is not self serve but Im pretty sure he can have a larger portion

*fish when available

*loaded salad with veggies and olives but NO dressing. Cheese?

*eggs

He has been eating kashi go lean cereal and liking it.. honestly I dont think he could find anything better than that and eggs for breakfast.

I hesitate to limit fruit - he has been eating one apple a meal and melon/pineapple. I think as long as he avoids the pasta/bread it should be good?

Im worried about him not getting enough calories. It just doesn't seem like enough!

As for supplements:

FISH OIL (I cannot stress this one enough !!!!!! lol) We dont really take it at home because at home we eat a balanced diet that includes omega rich foods.

A standard SAD multi vitamin.. because well he is eating a SAD diet so is likely lacking in all the things that the multis cover. Centrum perhaps? Or a whole food multi??

Should he have fat soluble vitamins separately in addition?

Coconut oil. This wont be much of his calories but maybe a spoonful or two a day as a pick me up?

Anyway.. I thank you all in advance. It just kills me to hear how horrible his options are. Devoid of all healthy fats, high in sugar.. *face palm

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 05:41 PM

They are on the way:) thank you again the gnc sports vitamins look pretty good too. Ill keep this post updated as far as how he is feeling :)

6bce08b072e3cea49b292658b9d5d197

(1144)

on August 16, 2012
at 09:25 AM

If you can get him the supplements, he'll be fine.

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 03:49 AM

lol I wish. He joined the national guard to get training to help him in his career at home. This truly is sorta temporary suffering... though it does bring up the question... how do we adapt him to deployment food. *ugh* one step at a time. He is a tough man. Disciplined and strong.. he will survive.. but *grumbles*

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 03:32 AM

http://www.livestrong.com/article/279822-kashi-go-lean-cereal-ingredients/ ... yeah... kashi is no bueno

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 03:29 AM

Also will that be enough fat to move things along? He says he only eats kashi because it keeps him regular there. What else can I suggest in that department? At home he got enough quality fats/proteins etc but there??

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 03:24 AM

Thank you again! This military specific advice is super helpful. Thank you Christine as well =)=) Well he wont be happy about giving up the kashi but he is the disciplined sort. But will he get all the vits he needs on eggs/cheese/veggies?

6bce08b072e3cea49b292658b9d5d197

(1144)

on August 16, 2012
at 02:56 AM

Stay away from the 1%. Lowfat milk can abnormally raise insulin levels, so it's better to stay away. Also, no Kashi. Looks like breakfast is omelette and fruit. Most DFACs will also have a supply of hardboiled eggs around. Grab a couple of those as well. To be honest, doing a little Intermittent Fasting might not be a bad idea. If he can eat eggs, some cheese, and veggies in the AM, that can hold him until the next day and can help him get fat-adapted again. May be a little dicey at first, particularly if they're PTing hard in the morning. Just a thought.

78964c5cc470f86a5897db8e1ce8e6f9

on August 16, 2012
at 02:23 AM

Eggs are the better option if they're always available at breakfast. +fruit for carbs. Kashi has soy, wheat, and added sugar.

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 01:34 AM

We are not trying to keep him paleo at the moment just fueled and we are hoping to control the damage as much as possible. It concerns me that he says that he feels what is like a sugar crash immediately after all meals.

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 01:32 AM

First of all thank you very much for your response!! I am still utterly shocked at the crap they are being fed. I didnt even bother listing all the junk food. I like your responses and have already passed them along to him. However I do have a few further questions for you- 1. there is no whole milk available. Only 1 percent and chocolate. Should he drink the 1%? 2. Should he continue to eat kashi cereal in the morning? It seems to be the least of the evils and does have lots of fiber/protien/vitamins. I wouldnt advocate it normally but that vs pasta?

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6bce08b072e3cea49b292658b9d5d197

on August 16, 2012
at 01:06 AM

As a military man myself, I too am aghast at how horrible the food options for our troops are. Bad news first...without being allowed food in his room, options are very limited. My advice, for breakfast, grab an omelette. Most DFACs will cook up omelettes loaded with meat and veggies, little bit of whole milk and some fruit.

Lunch, stick with a salad and load it up with the little ham cubes and whatever cheese they have.

Dinner, bite the bullet and eat whatever Franken-meat they're serving that night.

In his situation, keeping insulin low is really more important than trying to stay perfectly Paleo. It's only for a short time so the damage will be minimal. Milk and cheese are trade offs in order to get more saturated fat in him for energy.

Send him some Fish Oil caps, Vitamin D, and GNC Mega Man Sport vitamins.

AIT is only a few months and right now we're just in "minimizing the damage" mode. Once he's through it, he can get back to locking in his diet.

Hope it helps.

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6bce08b072e3cea49b292658b9d5d197

(1144)

on August 16, 2012
at 09:25 AM

If you can get him the supplements, he'll be fine.

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 01:34 AM

We are not trying to keep him paleo at the moment just fueled and we are hoping to control the damage as much as possible. It concerns me that he says that he feels what is like a sugar crash immediately after all meals.

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 03:32 AM

http://www.livestrong.com/article/279822-kashi-go-lean-cereal-ingredients/ ... yeah... kashi is no bueno

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 01:32 AM

First of all thank you very much for your response!! I am still utterly shocked at the crap they are being fed. I didnt even bother listing all the junk food. I like your responses and have already passed them along to him. However I do have a few further questions for you- 1. there is no whole milk available. Only 1 percent and chocolate. Should he drink the 1%? 2. Should he continue to eat kashi cereal in the morning? It seems to be the least of the evils and does have lots of fiber/protien/vitamins. I wouldnt advocate it normally but that vs pasta?

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 05:41 PM

They are on the way:) thank you again the gnc sports vitamins look pretty good too. Ill keep this post updated as far as how he is feeling :)

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 03:29 AM

Also will that be enough fat to move things along? He says he only eats kashi because it keeps him regular there. What else can I suggest in that department? At home he got enough quality fats/proteins etc but there??

78964c5cc470f86a5897db8e1ce8e6f9

on August 16, 2012
at 02:23 AM

Eggs are the better option if they're always available at breakfast. +fruit for carbs. Kashi has soy, wheat, and added sugar.

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 03:24 AM

Thank you again! This military specific advice is super helpful. Thank you Christine as well =)=) Well he wont be happy about giving up the kashi but he is the disciplined sort. But will he get all the vits he needs on eggs/cheese/veggies?

6bce08b072e3cea49b292658b9d5d197

(1144)

on August 16, 2012
at 02:56 AM

Stay away from the 1%. Lowfat milk can abnormally raise insulin levels, so it's better to stay away. Also, no Kashi. Looks like breakfast is omelette and fruit. Most DFACs will also have a supply of hardboiled eggs around. Grab a couple of those as well. To be honest, doing a little Intermittent Fasting might not be a bad idea. If he can eat eggs, some cheese, and veggies in the AM, that can hold him until the next day and can help him get fat-adapted again. May be a little dicey at first, particularly if they're PTing hard in the morning. Just a thought.

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on August 16, 2012
at 03:42 AM

I suppose there is no chance he can just become a conscientious objector?

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on August 16, 2012
at 03:49 AM

lol I wish. He joined the national guard to get training to help him in his career at home. This truly is sorta temporary suffering... though it does bring up the question... how do we adapt him to deployment food. *ugh* one step at a time. He is a tough man. Disciplined and strong.. he will survive.. but *grumbles*

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