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What do you think of the new website?

Answered on October 31, 2013
Created September 08, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Simple question: What do you like or hate about the new website design?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on September 26, 2013
at 11:42 PM

Ope, you are right now! It is working. YAY! That is awesome as I do a lot from my mobile.

One more thing - is there any way to differentiate between the posts you've already up/downvoted so that you don't keep clicking it? :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 26, 2013
at 10:24 PM

Hi there. Do you see a button with three little lines next to the search box? Clicking that should let you see a menu with login as well. We're working on the styling of the downvote running into the icon below.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on September 20, 2013
at 04:22 PM

All they had to do was to remove that bar, that's it. I actually LOVE it that there is no downvoting.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on September 20, 2013
at 04:21 PM

Me no like too

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 14, 2013
at 10:23 PM

We are working on bringing the changes people have suggested back to the site over the next week. The down voting and brown colors will be returning. The site owners are paying attention to the feedback and are taking strides to improve the site and work with a custom theme.

F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

(720)

on September 13, 2013
at 05:00 PM

I love your phrase "way too facebook-alike". :)

Perhaps there's only a limited amount of creativity in the "web world" and similar to broadcast TV... copycat product is the norm? The "thumb" has got to go.

I agree .... too much white! Earth tones would seem more appropriate.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 11, 2013
at 03:43 AM

Yep - we actually saw a few hiccups on the server and restarted some things - it should be better now. Thanks!

50ef4a664144b97faa37430916739309

on September 11, 2013
at 03:41 AM

Thank you DZone.

You may want to check if the client-side char counter and the server-side char counter use the same logic for markup. The comment in its original form was just under the wire for comment submission. The submit button lit up with no overrun limit notice but then sat unlit after clicked. Page refresh showed no comment injection. Hence I suspect a disagreement between the front and backend site logic. :-)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 11, 2013
at 03:35 AM

Hi @LateralFractal. Your post was probably too long to be a comment. We will look into increasing the limit. To answer your questions - the founders of the site moved it to our platform - they are contracting us to enhance it based on your feedback. Nothing else has changed about being community driven. The feedback will come from all users, not just the high status and active users - but those users tend to be more vocal. Best answers is a feature - in general you guys can run the community as you choose :) I chose it to highlight it in the discussion.

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B7b503a8fe916f7e67b20afc4137e9f6

on September 18, 2013
at 08:12 PM

Hey everyone,

Thank you for the feedback. To respond specifically - the design as it currently stands is not our permanent design. And the functionality is not permanent as well. We are in the process of reskinning/theming the site, which should be done by friday, so hopefully that will alleviate some of the design concerns from you all. Downvotes will be back. The design should be more intuitive (I'm not a fan of the icons either, I prefer words to explain what each thing is instead of having to hold the mouse over it to figure it out.).

Once the new design is up, hopefully that will make you guys feel a little better about the transition!

-To respond to some more specific questions:

  • Does "working with the owners of this site" mean that PaleoHacks is no longer community driven, but a service contract of AnswerHub support staff?

No, it is still community driven. We do have a contract with answerhub, as we felt they were the best platform to transition to. I saw your suggestion to continue to work with stackexchange, but unfortunately to work with their latest software, that would require giving up ownership of Paleohacks completely to stackexchange - which is something we were not willing to do.

  • Does "feedback from the high status and active users" imply that the merit of observations will weigh less than "high status" and "active" users? (i.e. majority community lockout)

No. We are listening to everyone.

  • Using server-side fiat to create "Best Answers" instead of a neutral "Pinned Answer" for administrator posts implies a master-supplicant relationship that is... worrying. "Best" answers should be those that float to the top organically.

Yes, in any other situation I would agree - but you guys are asking us specific questions about the sites functionality, etc. so we are the ones who can provide the best answers about that. We want to make sure everyone sees our comments. There is no 'master - supplicant' relationship here. This section is strictly for feedback and us allowing to take care of tech issues for users who have them.

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00cd3b6f51530a6832fcda1712edbec3

(2411)

on October 31, 2013
at 06:43 PM

I like:

  • being able to insert links,upload images and files in answers

  • being able to edit my remarks

I dislike:

  • the amount of vertical screen real estate that the static elements take up at the top of the page
  • the inability to sometimes see comments on the site that I receive email notifications of
  • the inability to see how many votes I've received on questions I've asked and answers I've given

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61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on September 26, 2013
at 10:20 PM

I still can't log in, much less anything else, from mobile. :( Would also like a way to track reputation back.

Glad downvoting is back. On short answers, though, the downvote can kinda hover over the icon of the person answering below.

Glad the answers/comments are stacked better now. Easier to differentiate threads.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 26, 2013
at 10:24 PM

Hi there. Do you see a button with three little lines next to the search box? Clicking that should let you see a menu with login as well. We're working on the styling of the downvote running into the icon below.

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61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on September 26, 2013
at 08:25 PM

I want to see questions in the order they are asked, not the most recently answered on top. However, as soon as I sort them and navigate away from the Home page by clicking on a question, that preference disappears and I must resort. FRUSTRATING!

Downvoting must return. It is a quick way for newbies to figure out which answers are worth reading and which ones are pure hogwash. Also, why does only one person have the ability to close a question? Voting to close is a much more "community driven" concept.

The colors suck. Way too bright!

Update: I can't add comments to answers. <sigh>

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Da2c728c093488e4f2ea87b81619682f

on September 21, 2013
at 06:56 PM

What happened - why did we need to suddenly move to a different site? I'm just confused. Did I miss something? :(

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on September 20, 2013
at 04:20 PM

I really hate the new font. It is kind of grey and it is hard to read. I also think the background should be more peachy/yellow, like the color in F.lux. The soft is way too small for the comments as well. Why did you change everything, if you don't mind me asking?

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3013d1b44fd7f65b4c8412f229d1d00e

on September 16, 2013
at 02:35 AM

I like the look of the site--it is a lot less crowded than the old one, and the design is cleaner. I don't like the level of brightness, but that isn't a deal-breaker for me. I would increase the size of all of the icons, especially those on comments; they seem particularly small.

I am especially pleased with how quickly the site loads; I haven't experienced the hanging of page reloads (which was such a problem on the old site). The only problem I've experienced is accessing the site via Dolphin browser on my Android handset. That challenge seems to be specific to that browser.

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Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on September 15, 2013
at 01:17 AM

I lost over 10,500 points in the transition apparently.....?

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2271d683e399f1c43931291d58e927b3

on September 14, 2013
at 10:09 PM

The siteowner should consider going back to the old design if changes cannot be made quickly (from my experience these things can take months of delays), while building up the beta to make a smooth transition before making the 2nd attempt at changeover. This is just a disaster, quite frankly.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 14, 2013
at 10:23 PM

We are working on bringing the changes people have suggested back to the site over the next week. The down voting and brown colors will be returning. The site owners are paying attention to the feedback and are taking strides to improve the site and work with a custom theme.

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on September 13, 2013
at 02:37 PM

I am a long time reader of this site and signed up especially to write this: The new design is really bad! It looks so sterile and impersonal that it already feels like the soul of this site is gone. Way too much white, the nice bar at the top is missing and way too facebook-alike.

It was actually nice to have the ability to both downvote and upvote posts and it is much nicer seeing the rating at the left side instead of that small facebook like button under the answer (way too hard to see).

Please revert back to the old design.

F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

(720)

on September 13, 2013
at 05:00 PM

I love your phrase "way too facebook-alike". :)

Perhaps there's only a limited amount of creativity in the "web world" and similar to broadcast TV... copycat product is the norm? The "thumb" has got to go.

I agree .... too much white! Earth tones would seem more appropriate.

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2271d683e399f1c43931291d58e927b3

on September 12, 2013
at 10:51 PM

The quality of commenters has gone down drastically. Many previously active regulars have not reappeared on the new site. It has become an open question whether this website will survive the transition (it probably will, given the large base, but how well depends on the finalized version of the new site). It really is terrible-looking at the moment, IMO.

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50ef4a664144b97faa37430916739309

on September 11, 2013
at 02:45 AM

Commenting on Admin posts seems impossible, so here is my comment as an standard answer.
(My apologies if the server is simply running slow. I'll delete duplicates in that instance)

Not to be combative but:

  • Does "working with the owners of this site" mean that PaleoHacks is no longer community driven, but a service contract of AnswerHub support staff?
  • Does "feedback from the high status and active users" imply that the merit of observations will weigh less than "high status" and "active" users? (i.e. majority community lockout)
  • Using server-side fiat to create "Best Answers" instead of a neutral "Pinned Answer" for administrator posts implies a master-supplicant relationship that is... worrying. "Best" answers should be those that float to the top organically.

UPDATE: AnswerHub does have some interesting features, though the possibility of vendor lock-in is a concern. Current feelings might simply be sticker shock and teething problems with the new service model. I guess we could hold off on the raiding the castle with pitchforks until we see if the new PaleoHacks site gets flooded with trolls, low-quality questions and people gaming the system.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 11, 2013
at 03:35 AM

Hi @LateralFractal. Your post was probably too long to be a comment. We will look into increasing the limit. To answer your questions - the founders of the site moved it to our platform - they are contracting us to enhance it based on your feedback. Nothing else has changed about being community driven. The feedback will come from all users, not just the high status and active users - but those users tend to be more vocal. Best answers is a feature - in general you guys can run the community as you choose :) I chose it to highlight it in the discussion.

50ef4a664144b97faa37430916739309

on September 11, 2013
at 03:41 AM

Thank you DZone.

You may want to check if the client-side char counter and the server-side char counter use the same logic for markup. The comment in its original form was just under the wire for comment submission. The submit button lit up with no overrun limit notice but then sat unlit after clicked. Page refresh showed no comment injection. Hence I suspect a disagreement between the front and backend site logic. :-)

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 11, 2013
at 02:24 AM

Hi Everyone. We are actually working with the owners of this site to make sure we take all the feedback from the high status and active users and try to incorporate that into an updated theme for the site.

The old site needed to move off the old platform on a very short time window and moving the content was the highest priority. To achieve that goal, we needed to leave the old design behind. We are already working to put together what will go into this new theme and we are looking forward to making the improvements you guys would like to see.

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50ef4a664144b97faa37430916739309

on September 11, 2013
at 02:17 AM

Abysmal.

Too unusable; a clone of certain social data harvesting sites; and it lacks a data liberation feature. Should have upgraded to a newer version of Stack Exchange instead. The mobile compatibility argument doesn't fly either, considering that Stack Exchange supports mobile devices.

In any case, I've not logged into PaleoHacks as often since the switch to commercial AnswerHub. It's like someone replaced my favourite Swiss army knife with a plastic spoon.

I've half a mind to seed a proper Stack Exchange version of Paleo with the open staging process.

UPDATE: AnswerHub does have some interesting features, though the possibility of vendor lock-in is a concern. Current feelings might simply be sticker shock and teething problems with the new service model. I guess we could hold off on the raiding the castle with pitchforks until we see if the new PaleoHacks site gets flooded with trolls, low-quality questions and people gaming the system.

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B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

(11488)

on September 10, 2013
at 08:41 PM

OMG! They killed PaleoHacks :(

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9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on September 09, 2013
at 08:33 AM

Disabling the ability of downvoting is a huge mistake on a site which is supposed to provide useful information and advise. Number of Likes a post receives doesn't tell anything about its reliability, value or even popularity.

Not every question needs to be liked on PH.

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F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

(720)

on September 09, 2013
at 01:21 AM

The "gear"? icon is a bit small / not very prominent.

How about, in my profile page, the ability to sort my answers by?

vote total (high to low, low to high)

by date (starting with most recent)

by date starting with oldest)

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F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

(720)

on September 09, 2013
at 01:04 AM

I would agree with raydawg.... must everything be a copy / knockout / clone.. mindless following of facebook, et al? The up arrow & down arrows "worked"... bring them back. At least isn't gone all the way to Yelp "useful", "funny", "cool".

One of the reasons I like PaleoHacks.....it is frequented by knowledgeable, committed people. Not having option to "down rate" an answer allows the uninformed / wrong answers to remain unchallenged. Down voting didn't really happen that often, but not having that feedback, I believe, will lead to an diminution of the value of PaleoHacks. :(

I'll have to use the site more to determine my likes & dislikes... I reserve judgement.

Updated 9-13: Navigation is not quick & easy. The Ask a question button is promnetinet but most people read answers. The Spaces selection is a bit cryptic as the the "Tree" icon.

Are the new web designers...Google or Facebook refugees? Good design is intuitive & learning should be very quick & easy.

The "gear"? icon is a bit small / not very prominent and is lame copy of bad idea. Don't copy, lead!

How about, in my profile page, the ability to sort my answers by?

vote total (high to low, low to high), by date (starting with most recent), by date starting with oldest)

AND within an answered question. Be able to sort answers by date (most recent at bottom or top) and also, of course, by upvote score.

Hint: You can notify a user about this post by typing @username.... typing it where?

Anywhere i the body of the answer? at the beginning? at the end? Hint: How about a few more characters in the hint?

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7904c7276d7e48f1be887fabd263bfd9

(300)

on September 08, 2013
at 06:44 PM

i think i would like it a bit better if the background wasnt WHITE :D , also i might like some borders to help eyes to differentiate between threads.(not sure on this one yet)

edit: and the site crashed when i was typing this :D

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Cbda678b2a6bf0537d8c4ea0ce8aa9ad

(4319)

on September 08, 2013
at 06:17 PM

No like

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on September 20, 2013
at 04:21 PM

Me no like too

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7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

(5959)

on September 08, 2013
at 01:11 PM

I agree that the old site was ugly, and being an orphaned old version of Stack Exchange, there was no way to update it. Anything new takes time to get used to, but it does look nicer, and it appears that the new platform has better controls against spam. So, I'm 100% in favor of the switch.

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19398)

on September 08, 2013
at 12:43 PM

I like it, it looks much nicer, the fugly big huge bar at the top that wouldn't scroll away and took up like 1/3rd of the vertical real estate is gone, thank Grok for that!

Would be nice to have the ability to downvote as well as "like" I'm not a fan of facebook so the facebook thumbs up button is a bit annoying, but we need a downvote button too. Would also be nice to have the "close" voting button back too.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on September 20, 2013
at 04:22 PM

All they had to do was to remove that bar, that's it. I actually LOVE it that there is no downvoting.

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