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[meta] Should we close questions of and pertaining to binge eating?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 18, 2013 at 12:10 PM

These questions seem to pop up with a disturbingly high frequency on this website. It almost seems as though paleohacks is operating in conjunction to a binge eaters anonymous type deal. Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't have any sort of sympathy for the problem, it's just that it is a problem, a real problem, and I think doctor's (either therapists or medical physicians or a combination there of) are the one's that should be addressing their questions and concerns...not just everyday people on the internet who come to this site to hack PALEO scenarios (binge eating is not paleo).

This is a serious question and I would just like to hear your thoughts on the matter, if you have any at all.

7a6529ea25b655132fe58d793f95547a

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on April 19, 2013
at 04:37 AM

That's great Alex I'm glad it's helped you. I agree that if there was one diet that would help it would be this one.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 19, 2013
at 04:09 AM

Again, please do not assume things you do not know. I had 4 ice cream cones on the same day, not in one sitting. So if you think you know things I did better than I do - you are mistaken.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

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on April 18, 2013
at 09:35 PM

Yeah, so much coming out now on how the gut controls the immune system. I'm waiting for the attention to go toward how the gut controls mental health, hormone regulation, etc.

618fc5298c4a96b817c4918c795a875f

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on April 18, 2013
at 08:52 PM

eating 4 ice cream cones in one sitting does describe a binge. And even though the cause may be gut flora, the BEHAVIOR is still binge eating. We may discover that all binge eaters have SIBO... but to say that out of control eating isn't a binge is like saying a car isn't an automobile

4739dfc454ee7d5b4a6c232984fb9fb9

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:54 PM

We should be more worried about armchair experts giving people with legitimate medical conditions advice, more so than preventing people from talking out psychological eating issues with others.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:40 PM

@Roth - to add to FY's points, most people, western or not, do not binge. I bet many overeat but binging isn't as common as Paleohackers seem to think. Pretending it is normal or that it is simply overeating is a problem.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:24 PM

Oh okay. YAY!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:24 PM

You remind me of two gastroenterology doctors that I have met who told me that SIBO does not exist and it was all in my head. When I told them about the methane producing bacteria, they were (to say the least) skeptical. So please - if you don't know something, try to keep an open mind. Minds are like parachutes, they only function when they are open.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on April 18, 2013
at 07:23 PM

Foreveryoung, you are NEVER a sillybilly. :)

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:22 PM

Actually, I believe that most (I cannot say all) people with eating disorders can be cured. And psychotherapy is NOT THE ANSWER. Everything they have been telling us is a lie. It is totally physiological. Gut bacteria, dysbiosis, parasites, whatever - I don't know. If I ever get rid of sweet cravings, I will try to analyze it so I could help others.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:18 PM

It is a problem, but it is not a binge eating problem. I wish I were a scientist - I would test all the gut flora in every person binging on sweet things. If their flora is out of whack - that's the answer. But I don't know for sure.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 07:16 PM

My last sugar binge was back in January, when my SIBO bacteria came in. Since this whole thing is very interesting and unusual, I would like to know what it is related to.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:15 PM

I didn't assume you ate exactly the same. Whatever i don't want to argue. my point is that 4 ice ream comes, chocolate candies, and a cake" is a problem.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:14 PM

No, I REALLY DON'T. I think you are assuming things that are NOT THERE. On the first day I only had some honey (not a lot, by the way). On the second day I had dairy. On the third day I had everything I have listed. So I only had 4 ice cream cones once, not every singe day. You can't assume things you do not know.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:03 PM

of course you're going to say you don't. Most people with problems, before they are adequately addressed (which can't be done on an internet forum) don't think they have a problem. "Then four chocolate ice cream cones, some chocolate candies and a cake" You admitted to 3 days of that. then you asked a question describing seemingly horrible physical symptoms, and yet you persist. that is a classic disorder.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:02 PM

of course you're going to say you don't. Most people with problems, before they are adequately addressed (which can't be done on an internet forum) don't think they have a problem. "Then four chocolate ice cream cones, some chocolate candies and a cake" You admitted to 3 days of that. then you asked a question describing seemingly horrible physical symptoms, and yet you persist. that is a DISORDER.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:46 PM

I bet it is related to gut flora.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 18, 2013
at 05:48 PM

that should not have 4 up votes.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 18, 2013
at 05:47 PM

I can't believe that got 4 up votes.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on April 18, 2013
at 05:42 PM

+1. I've voted to close plenty of questions (*sigh* trolls, especially), and I do think it's important to console those who are suffering from strong disorders - however, it's also appropriate to console, empathize, *and* suggest they seek treatment beyond just PH. Granted, if it comes off as "See doctor; good luck" that is probably not the best way to sell the idea that they should indeed be seeing a health professional. (It sounds like we agree on this point.)

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 18, 2013
at 05:33 PM

Oh, sorry, I wasn't grading "you", I was grading "us", in the sense of what PH should or shouldn't do. No no, you're good, I already +1'd you. ;-)

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 18, 2013
at 05:25 PM

@ Roth. No they will not. Dr Oz the king of "CW" did a whole show on binge eating and not once did he say "you should try eating more whole grains' or anything to that affect. He warned them of the damage that they are doing to their internal organs and their relationships. He tried to heal their relationships because he realized they were using food as an emotional crutch.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 18, 2013
at 05:20 PM

Also, if we were to close every question which hinted of an eating disorder, like probably at least 50% of the questions on here would be close for "possible orthorexia: go see a doctor"

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on April 18, 2013
at 03:33 PM

Oh alligator, you are like the younger sibling of Paleohacks. Sometimes we think you are a sillybilly, but you are OUR sillybilly and others are not allowed to troll you.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on April 18, 2013
at 03:15 PM

I didn't mean it like that. I meant it is perhaps more suited to be discussed with a doctor not with strangers who could give harmful advice. IDK nevermind I thought I explained well enough in my full question.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on April 18, 2013
at 03:12 PM

Why shouldn't serious things be talked about in public?

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on April 18, 2013
at 03:00 PM

I'm not saying...that's why I'm asking. Also, I know it's a seriously problem and that's again, why I'm asking if they should even be addressed on a public forum relating to paleo nutrition.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on April 18, 2013
at 02:18 PM

I didn't say that we should direct them or give medical advice beyond "get some professional advice"....?

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:13 PM

I feel like a lot of people who've wound up paleo still have an eating disorder.

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:12 PM

^ Didn't know you could style comments. Neat.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

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on April 18, 2013
at 01:54 PM

Good points. Thank you.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on April 18, 2013
at 01:53 PM

Maybe that's the case, just whenever I'm on the only one's i've ever seen mentioned are binge eating and orthorexia.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 18, 2013
at 01:46 PM

For me the disorder was "vegetarianism". I wish I was kidding.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 18, 2013
at 01:45 PM

Somewhat agree. Talking to them about how paleo might help these conditions: A+. Directing them / giving them actual medical or psychotheraputic advice: F. Also, yeah, "binge" is misused as a word here (that part actually upsets me a bit).

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 18, 2013
at 01:43 PM

While I agree with your sentiment, so long as topics can be linked to paleo somehow, there's one thing: **THIS IS NOT A BLOG**. This is a Q/A site focused on paleo.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 18, 2013
at 01:42 PM

@RA I strongly agree. The problem is that binge eating is not a "slip up" - eating a piece of cake at a party is unfortunate not a binge. Baking and eating seemingly without self control all of the boxed cake mixes and frosting in your cupboards *would be* a binge (most likely).

De1095b2ba29c1035f00428cbfe3cc7c

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on April 18, 2013
at 12:30 PM

I totally get what your saying as it can make the site look like some fad diet forum i suppose its an integral part of cutting out things from your diet that you've been eating for years/decades, you will slip ocassionally, i know i still eat sugar every now & then or a pizza as i enjoy it once in a blue moon. I think more than anything people blow it up into a 'binge' when its more of a minor slip. Drama queens! 80/20, be cool ;)

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

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on April 18, 2013
at 12:18 PM

Also PH is already censor-happy enough, we don't need more censorship.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

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on April 18, 2013
at 12:18 PM

No. If these people go to a doctor, the doctor is just gonna say some stupid shit like "oh you should try eating more whole grains. They're healthy and will fill you up." Fact of the matter is that many if not most people in Western civilization binge, alligator.

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5b9a25a1a676397a25579dfad59e1d7b

(2318)

on April 18, 2013
at 12:32 PM

n=1 paleohacks is a supportive, well educated, empathetic bunch from all walks of life -- if anyone is going to help point people in the right direction of in terms greater nutritional health and well being on an internet forum, I'd like to think it'd be us.

No, we're not all doctors, but sometimes just having a voice in a community like this is all one may need to realize their personal struggles and begin to take steps to correct it. Many people keep those types of questions to themselves, and I would rather see people address it here (and get advice to see a professional) then to not say anything at all and continue down a harmful path.

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61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on April 18, 2013
at 12:32 PM

No, I don't think we should close them. Do we tell diabetics we can't talk to them and to just see a doctor? Those with autoimmune disease? Pregnant women?

If they have severe symptoms we should include that they get some professional advice, too, if they haven't already. But as with other diseases, n=1 can help, and sometimes support and knowing others have been there too can go a long way.

That being said, I do think we should recognize it as unhealthy behavior and not encourage those with this problem to continue or try extreme diets or methods. We should also avoid using terms like binge to describe simple overeating as misuse blurs the line between okay and unhealthy.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 18, 2013
at 05:33 PM

Oh, sorry, I wasn't grading "you", I was grading "us", in the sense of what PH should or shouldn't do. No no, you're good, I already +1'd you. ;-)

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 18, 2013
at 01:45 PM

Somewhat agree. Talking to them about how paleo might help these conditions: A+. Directing them / giving them actual medical or psychotheraputic advice: F. Also, yeah, "binge" is misused as a word here (that part actually upsets me a bit).

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on April 18, 2013
at 07:24 PM

Oh okay. YAY!

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on April 18, 2013
at 02:18 PM

I didn't say that we should direct them or give medical advice beyond "get some professional advice"....?

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on April 18, 2013
at 01:54 PM

Good points. Thank you.

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048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

on April 18, 2013
at 12:26 PM

Although they might not be the ones I prefer to show up when I refresh the site, I think that its pretty legitimate for users that may have been experiencing these problems to ask and it could be of a lot to help for them.

And also, isn't this site in the end all about hacking one self to overcome our issues? Binges are pretty stress and hormonal related and therefore they may in the end have something to do with Paleo as food plays a great role in this, just my opinion.

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Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on April 18, 2013
at 01:24 PM

I feel like a lot of people who've wound up paleo have had an eating disorder at some point in their life. As long as the people aren't trolling or asking identical questions I don't see any reason to close them down.

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:13 PM

I feel like a lot of people who've wound up paleo still have an eating disorder.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on April 18, 2013
at 01:53 PM

Maybe that's the case, just whenever I'm on the only one's i've ever seen mentioned are binge eating and orthorexia.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 18, 2013
at 01:46 PM

For me the disorder was "vegetarianism". I wish I was kidding.

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Bfd70bb38267fcc2d762063d691fa226

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on April 19, 2013
at 04:21 AM

No way!!! Often when people go to doctors for this, they are either medicated or told that they have mental problems. This kind of stuff makes the problems worse. I struggled with bingeing for a year, and, from looking through questions here, I found that I was not alone and not "crazy." I also learned that often times bingeing is not a lack of self-control or a mental shortcoming. It can be caused by chemical imbalances and deficiencies in the diet. It was in a question about bingeing that I learned that omega 3's can help stop the urge to eat when not hungry. And it worked. There are also many other people here who have recovered by using the advice of others, particularly those who have had this problem in the past.

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on April 18, 2013
at 05:16 PM

I have thought about this matter as well, and I'm a little bit torn. I would like to keep the questions open becauase (a) I'm just not fond of censorship, (b) I believe they are smart enough to know that an internet forum full of frequently non-credentialed strangers is no substitute for real medical/psychological care and (c) formal credentials don't always do the job and often it's the advice we get from people that are non-formally credentialed (shrewd individuals with just a lot of experience/wisdowm to offer) that make the biggest difference (aside from the initiative we take ourselves).

So, on that level I think it's only fair to keep the questions open.

However, there are also some reasons I think they should be closed. Firstly, the capacious nature of the internet allows for a multitude of other forums which specialize in offering support and advice to bingers. That place would probably but not necessarily be better suited to answering your question(s).

Secondly, binging is a disorder, and I feel the reason "paleo" has attracted so many bingers is because it is yet another extreme diet that perpetuates their cylce of binge/fast/restrict/binge/fast/restrict, etc etc. Also, paleo fosters unhealthy relationships through a culture of elitism, demonization, and fear mongering. These are just my thoughts but the empirical evidence to back it is profound.

Thirdly, because binging is a disorder, an addiction, and illness, I do think that we should all be weary offering advice so willy nilly. In the midst of an illness, one does not often think rationally and will delude themselves into believing that they don't need help. Talking on a forum can be a first step, but I fear it will be the only step some of these binge eaters will take, and therefor they may never actually get better because they don't have real, third party interference.

Finally, I have seen questions of people with anorexia get closed, or people just by answering "Go see a doctor. Good luck" or something to that affect. If we are to be fair (in so much as closing a question in the first place is deemed to be so), then we should not be closing questions about anorexia either. No they are not equally as life threatening, but they are comparably damaging to one's livelihood and both are disorders on the same spectrum (OCD, addiction, malnutrition, and often orthorexia/delusional thinking).

So, yeah sorry for the long winded response. I guess in the end I won't be the one closing them (I've yet to vote to close a question), but I won't necessarily object if others do. I think all of us have something to offer and our own little niche of informal or formal expertise, so why not share it...as long as we make clear that it's not a substitute for third party help and suggest it be sought when necessary.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 18, 2013
at 05:42 PM

+1. I've voted to close plenty of questions (*sigh* trolls, especially), and I do think it's important to console those who are suffering from strong disorders - however, it's also appropriate to console, empathize, *and* suggest they seek treatment beyond just PH. Granted, if it comes off as "See doctor; good luck" that is probably not the best way to sell the idea that they should indeed be seeing a health professional. (It sounds like we agree on this point.)

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 18, 2013
at 05:20 PM

Also, if we were to close every question which hinted of an eating disorder, like probably at least 50% of the questions on here would be close for "possible orthorexia: go see a doctor"

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Cceda01c6e1aefb1ca7f1aa5653cba2a

on April 18, 2013
at 02:38 PM

Why? And who are you to say what belongs here?

Binge eating is a serious problem. For some people, it can be hard to take the first steps to tackling it. If they come here and this is part of theor fisrt step, that's wonderful. Scaring them away or making them feel unwelcome can cause more problems and feelings of hopelessness for them.

Also, binge eaters are on every diet I've ever done - if there is a way o tackling cravings and binges that works for some, it is worth it. Also, I have gotten the feel that some paleo people on some forums have a superiority complex- they are super macho workout gods who Crossfit to death, 100/0 paleo, and fast until they are dead. I feel like you saying that you don't want binge eaters here plays into that and reduces the welcoming, mainstream atmosphere that paleo is gaining.

Also, I am a binge eater. I still do it to varying degrees. If I want to be here and post anout it, I will. Paleo has helped me a lot, and THAT is what I choose to focus on. Not the binging.

Thanks.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

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on April 18, 2013
at 03:12 PM

Why shouldn't serious things be talked about in public?

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on April 18, 2013
at 03:00 PM

I'm not saying...that's why I'm asking. Also, I know it's a seriously problem and that's again, why I'm asking if they should even be addressed on a public forum relating to paleo nutrition.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on April 18, 2013
at 03:15 PM

I didn't mean it like that. I meant it is perhaps more suited to be discussed with a doctor not with strangers who could give harmful advice. IDK nevermind I thought I explained well enough in my full question.

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Fb2da7937d7040a99c34fc62b448aa49

on April 19, 2013
at 04:08 AM

Well i see what you are saying but to share my experience, and relation to this, i'm actually a binge eater in recovery. I have BED and the Paleo life style has SERIOUSLY helped me. It has helped me limit my binges and even when i do binge i do not binge on nearly as much food as i used too. Paleo has helped me not binge or STOP the binge. I think the reason for that is that paleo food (high protein low carbs) reduces cravings, i don't crave junk food. It's a lifestyle for me now. I guess when people ask questions about binge eating (i'm guilty of it) We're really just looking for support while living the paleo life style and recovering from this disorder. It's true that a therapist/doctor would say, just eat intuitively whatever you want stop restricting, eat more whole grains. BUt honestly paleo has helped a lot! just thought i'd give a different perspective :)

7a6529ea25b655132fe58d793f95547a

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on April 19, 2013
at 04:37 AM

That's great Alex I'm glad it's helped you. I agree that if there was one diet that would help it would be this one.

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Ceec0a171bc60a9fbe7d609b0e39baee

on April 19, 2013
at 03:10 AM

No... IMO. I like that paleohacks is so diverse in all kinds questions. I think that it is very helpful & supportive. Like someone mentioned above... I have a 2 serious autoimmune diseases. The responses, opinions and what works for has helped me so much more then multiple doctors and Johns Hopkins have. I wouldn't like to see restrictions on any questions/topics.

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81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

on April 18, 2013
at 07:32 PM

Nope, I think paleo is actually a very helpful thing for people with binge eating disorder and although I do think lots of questions come up related to binge eating, if you don't want to read them DON'T click on them..... If people with a binge eating disorder go to a doctor that is not going to help them in any way. MOST doctors do not know anything about binge eating disorder.

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32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

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on April 18, 2013
at 04:13 PM

It's important to remember that eating disorders are not just a psychological problem where the person can go get counseling and ta-da, be better. There are bits of research starting to pop up on the physiological basis, from brain chemistry to food allergies. (Many people with food allergies end up with eating disorders - it just feels better to not eat). [Sorry no links to share - can't remember where I read this stuff].

Paleo can be a huge factor in overcoming an eating disorder if the physiological basis is strong. We all know how much our hormones and overall chemistry can be fixed with a paleo diet. Food allergies can be much more easily identified and dealt with. Even if a person thinks the basis is psychological, paleo may go a long way toward lifting mood and allowing that person to start to deal with things in a much more manageable way.

For myself, I struggled with decades of crazy eating. But it wasn't bc I was imagining things, or even eating food for comfort. I was slowly getting fat eating EXACTLY the way conventional wisdom told me to eat. I am a very sane, logical person. The only way I could stop my weight gain (not even lose weight) was to eat incredibly low calories (less than 1000 a day). But eventually my hunger mechanism would override my willpower, and I would eat (shock!) 2000 cal a day. In terrible foods like beans, rice, and vegetables. And gain 5 more lbs. Paleo FINALLY gave me an answer. For years I did think I was crazy, bc I seemed to be the only person I knew who was getting fatter eating "healthy" foods. I started to think maybe I was blocking out eating, or eating in my sleep. SAD can make you crazy.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:46 PM

I bet it is related to gut flora.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

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on April 18, 2013
at 09:35 PM

Yeah, so much coming out now on how the gut controls the immune system. I'm waiting for the attention to go toward how the gut controls mental health, hormone regulation, etc.

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142d7e06e608cff536ab78e6ca78ce38

on April 18, 2013
at 12:28 PM

I feel people should be able to discuss what they want on the blog. The blogs are titled so if you don't want to read about binge eating then don't click on them, there should not be censorship in my opinion.

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:12 PM

^ Didn't know you could style comments. Neat.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 18, 2013
at 01:43 PM

While I agree with your sentiment, so long as topics can be linked to paleo somehow, there's one thing: **THIS IS NOT A BLOG**. This is a Q/A site focused on paleo.

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D2b653e1bb95489af69ece6182abec48

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on April 19, 2013
at 03:41 AM

Using the FAQ as a guide: binge eating is related to the paleo diet because paleo dieters sometimes binge eat. Binge eating is not acutely life threatening. That leaves questions begging subjective, argumentative, or extended discussion as candidates for closure. I suggest evaluating these questions based on their individual merit rather than automatically closing them because they contain a reference binge eating.

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:45 PM

Just to clarify, since you have asked.

I DON'T HAVE A BINGE EATING DISORDER.

By the way, binge eating and sweet cravings are completely different.

I do get sweet cravings, but they are related to SIBO. When I was on antibiotics, I did not have any sweet cravings at all, I was not even hungry, and I took antibiotics for about a month, so I know what I am talking about.

I think that all people with sweet cravings should be tested for SIBO.

My question was - why after eating foods with sugar I feel like cr@p. Am I the only one? Are my symptoms related to inflammation or to gut bacteria? I want to know the mechanics of it.

Now to answer your questions - how do you know that binge eating is not Paleo? You were not there. What if some HG binge eat?

Does being on Paleo diet reduce/ diminish binge eating behavior? If yes, it means binge eating is related to gut bacteria. If not - it is something else.

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:16 PM

My last sugar binge was back in January, when my SIBO bacteria came in. Since this whole thing is very interesting and unusual, I would like to know what it is related to.

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:22 PM

Actually, I believe that most (I cannot say all) people with eating disorders can be cured. And psychotherapy is NOT THE ANSWER. Everything they have been telling us is a lie. It is totally physiological. Gut bacteria, dysbiosis, parasites, whatever - I don't know. If I ever get rid of sweet cravings, I will try to analyze it so I could help others.

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on April 18, 2013
at 08:52 PM

eating 4 ice cream cones in one sitting does describe a binge. And even though the cause may be gut flora, the BEHAVIOR is still binge eating. We may discover that all binge eaters have SIBO... but to say that out of control eating isn't a binge is like saying a car isn't an automobile

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:24 PM

You remind me of two gastroenterology doctors that I have met who told me that SIBO does not exist and it was all in my head. When I told them about the methane producing bacteria, they were (to say the least) skeptical. So please - if you don't know something, try to keep an open mind. Minds are like parachutes, they only function when they are open.

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on April 19, 2013
at 04:09 AM

Again, please do not assume things you do not know. I had 4 ice cream cones on the same day, not in one sitting. So if you think you know things I did better than I do - you are mistaken.

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:15 PM

I didn't assume you ate exactly the same. Whatever i don't want to argue. my point is that 4 ice ream comes, chocolate candies, and a cake" is a problem.

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:14 PM

No, I REALLY DON'T. I think you are assuming things that are NOT THERE. On the first day I only had some honey (not a lot, by the way). On the second day I had dairy. On the third day I had everything I have listed. So I only had 4 ice cream cones once, not every singe day. You can't assume things you do not know.

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:02 PM

of course you're going to say you don't. Most people with problems, before they are adequately addressed (which can't be done on an internet forum) don't think they have a problem. "Then four chocolate ice cream cones, some chocolate candies and a cake" You admitted to 3 days of that. then you asked a question describing seemingly horrible physical symptoms, and yet you persist. that is a DISORDER.

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:03 PM

of course you're going to say you don't. Most people with problems, before they are adequately addressed (which can't be done on an internet forum) don't think they have a problem. "Then four chocolate ice cream cones, some chocolate candies and a cake" You admitted to 3 days of that. then you asked a question describing seemingly horrible physical symptoms, and yet you persist. that is a classic disorder.

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on April 18, 2013
at 07:18 PM

It is a problem, but it is not a binge eating problem. I wish I were a scientist - I would test all the gut flora in every person binging on sweet things. If their flora is out of whack - that's the answer. But I don't know for sure.

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