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Does PaleoHacks.com censor people or ideas?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created March 15, 2011 at 5:16 AM

Does PaleoHacks.com censor people or ideas? As Ignacio suggests here:

http://paleohacks.com/questions/27605/what-is-the-best-brand-of-hamburgers-in-east-wichita#axzz1GaaXaej7

after PaleoHacks admins deleted a previous question of his.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on May 12, 2012
at 06:25 AM

Great answer!!!

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

(1646)

on May 12, 2012
at 03:19 AM

Well said by both Patrik and Whisper. To put it another way, there is lawful and unlawful censorship: lawful is when I do it, unlawful is when the government does.

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

(1646)

on May 12, 2012
at 03:17 AM

I appreciate the spirit, but not quite correct... It's only *unconstitutional* censorship when the government does it. :)

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

(1646)

on May 12, 2012
at 03:14 AM

Strictly speaking, no... While high in fat, it has a generally poor n-3 to n-6 ratio, a glycemic index of 32, and contains cortisol-promoting compounds. I highly recommend the more paleo friendly "meaningless pap" to "meaningless drivel"; it's free range, ass-fed and far more satisfying!

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 12, 2012
at 02:23 AM

If I had a nickle for every time I was suspended by a mod on PH, I'd have one nickle. But oh boy was I pissed that day!

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(4878)

on May 12, 2012
at 02:18 AM

Yes! Smooches. Or you could add a badge!

F00e022ce184879578d0829d8d09a85d

(169)

on May 12, 2012
at 01:35 AM

Is drivel paleo?

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on May 12, 2012
at 01:24 AM

would it be ironic if I deleted this?

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(19469)

on May 12, 2012
at 12:58 AM

^^^ Right? rPaleo has been working for me lately.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on December 28, 2011
at 04:31 AM

Paul Brin, your question was one of politics. I don't allow politics on PaleoHacks. End of story.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 27, 2011
at 06:14 PM

Just asking--if you stopped your activities here how did you post this answer? Hey, we all can disagree or get our feelings hurt--mine were bruised yesterday--but overall this is a terrific place for conversation.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on December 27, 2011
at 01:28 PM

Oh give me my daily drivel please. And make sure your answer is in the form of a question.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 27, 2011
at 11:25 AM

The government-citizen dichotomy of censorship is brought up by many a pedant whenever censorship is discussed on online forums. American Heritage Dictionary (from 2000) doesn't even recognize government's role. Censoring: "A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable." No mention of a state actor at all. Given that any mod on any forum is "authorized" to examine and remove objectionable material, it can and should be called censorship.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 27, 2011
at 11:24 AM

The government-citizen dichotomy of "censorship" is brought up by many a pedant whenever censorship is discussed on online forums. American Heritage Dictionary (from 2000) doesn't even recognize it. Censoring: "A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable." No mention of a state actor at all. Given that any mod on any forum is "authorized" to examine and remove objectionable material, it can and should be called censorship.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on October 01, 2011
at 10:51 AM

Fine, you don't explain me why you delete my questions. But why did I get suspended because you didn't like my question? Can't you just give me a warning?

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on August 20, 2011
at 11:43 AM

Agreed BHC & Rose.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on August 20, 2011
at 11:42 AM

We do that sometimes --- but there are far too few of us & far too many questions to offer explanations every time. C'est la vie.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on August 19, 2011
at 04:39 PM

Yep. Forums, blogs, websites -- I behave in them as I would in someone's home. If I don't like the atmosphere, I'll just leave, rather than whine. And if I need a platform for my own speech, I'll start my own site.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on August 19, 2011
at 04:27 PM

:) Thanks Jack.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18452)

on August 19, 2011
at 04:16 PM

some nice perspective there BHC +1

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on July 26, 2011
at 02:12 PM

What time? Can't you automate that?

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on July 25, 2011
at 06:03 PM

"Very funny". snort snort

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on July 25, 2011
at 04:59 PM

Sorry -- don't have time to do so -- check out what the FAQ say about that.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 25, 2011
at 02:24 PM

He is just on edge because of his cortisol level. He needs mindfulness. Sorry patrik but I just had too......lol

B3c62d89cd47b7d7209b6a99243d0ded

(10778)

on April 07, 2011
at 11:30 AM

Don't irritate the mods, for you are crunchy and god with homemade mayo. (humor, I hope)

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

(1591)

on March 15, 2011
at 09:47 PM

It's naht a foruhm! (Said like Ahnuld.)

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

(1591)

on March 15, 2011
at 09:44 PM

@WCC Paul - I will work harder to get to 3,000 then. :) I've been slacking lately.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 15, 2011
at 08:50 PM

Ah yes, memes beget memes. Need to spend more time on here I guess.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 15, 2011
at 08:38 PM

There was an answer to that - you slip organ meat in her chili

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 15, 2011
at 08:28 PM

Patrick- I meant it as a joke (that fell flat, apparently)

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 15, 2011
at 08:27 PM

Patrick-- it was a joke

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on March 15, 2011
at 08:26 PM

@Elizabeth, according to the FAQ you have to have 3,000+ in order to vote to close questions (or reopen them, NB). As of now that's 26 people. Five of them need to vote to close to get a question closed. As far as I know that's how it works.

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

(1591)

on March 15, 2011
at 08:04 PM

@Melissa, you need to have high rep to vote, right? Because I don't see an option.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 15, 2011
at 07:42 PM

Spot on. Thanks WCC Paul.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 15, 2011
at 07:40 PM

@Kamal - that one slipped by me but I give Melissa a lot of leeway for her great contributions and moderation on PaleoHacks.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 15, 2011
at 07:27 PM

Ignacio --- For the record, your question was stupid, not you. Also, I am not apologizing to you. I have nothing to apologize for. You have tried my patience too far. I have made every effort to accommodate you - I even lifted your suspension as to give you the benefit of the doubt. Bottom line: On PaleoHacks, you have to play by MY rules. If not, you can either leave voluntarily or I will delete your account.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 15, 2011
at 07:05 PM

***there is no answer to how babby is formed

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on March 15, 2011
at 06:54 PM

I agree with Patrik here. I've had posts deleted, and after thinking about it, makes sense. A site like this can easily be muddled with crud, which devalues the great resource we have here in this site.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 15, 2011
at 06:30 PM

Then why don't more people vote to close some of these questions? Sometimes I'm on the fence and I'm not sure.

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on March 15, 2011
at 06:11 PM

I think the hysteria/drama is what you plus people as Elizabeth (always on the close thing stuff!)create with an obsessive, control-oriented mentality. If I were in your place I would not take issue at anything that is not insulting or hateful, nor close it. BTW on a personal level I do not accept apologies of anyone calling me "stupid".

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 15, 2011
at 06:01 PM

Ignacio -- as Elizabeth points out your question was not really a question - 1) it was an argumentative discussion 2) and I thought it was stupid. (Sorry, but being honest with you). 3) This is the nature of all forum-type sites on the web. 4) Your hysteria/drama is NOT appreciated BTW. 5) As a gesture of kindness, I lifted your suspension. 6) Get over all of this already.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 15, 2011
at 05:58 PM

Justanotherhunt --- you are dead wrong -- there are no control freaks here at PaleoHacks -- just a bunch of moderators who are trying to maintain a high-quality site.

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

(1591)

on March 15, 2011
at 05:49 PM

Ignacio - read the FAQ. It is off-topic at PH if: "Avoid asking questions that are overly subjective, argumentative, or require extended discussion. This is not a discussion board nor a blog, this is a place for questions that can be answered!"

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 15, 2011
at 03:26 PM

it's funny because it actually seems quite on-topic there

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

(3761)

on March 15, 2011
at 12:58 PM

+1 Well said, Patrik.

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

(1591)

on March 15, 2011
at 10:03 AM

I wish that the "only ask questions that have an answer" rule was enforced more strictly, and I really appreciate it when you guys do enforce it. Thanks for all your hard volunteer work to keep the signal-to-noise ratio at PH high.

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on March 15, 2011
at 06:08 AM

Thanks Patrick please understand I am kind of emphatic, but would never try to upset you!

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on March 15, 2011
at 06:03 AM

Thanks Patrick please understand I a kind of emphatic, but would never try to upset you!

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 15, 2011
at 05:59 AM

I cleared your suspension. Don't make me regret it.

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on March 15, 2011
at 05:57 AM

This is a question on me but I am unable to answer since you suspended my account...It does not sound fair to me. Also I never insulted anybody just disagreed with the reasons and the system to close a question. Anyway, I appreciate paleohacks and the chance I had to communicate with many intelligent people here..Cheers

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on March 15, 2011
at 05:56 AM

This is a question on me but I am unable to answer since you suspended my account...It does not sound fair to me..AAlso I never insulted anybody just disagreed with the reasons and the system to close a question. Anyway, I appreciate paleohacks and the chance I had to communicate with many intelligent people here..Cheers...

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93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 15, 2011
at 05:29 AM

I am going to write this very, very, very simply.

Paleohacks is unable to indulge in any form of "censorship" of Free Speech as censorship as it is generally defined is between two parties:

1) A government. 2) A private individual.

A government ostensibly protects an individual's right to Free Speech. For example, one could go into a public space and say all sorts of horrible things that may be deeply offensive, hateful, wrong etc etc --- but as long as one is not causing physical violence -- this sort of Free Speech behavior is both tolerated and protected.

Got that? Great, because PaleoHacks is not a government --- and has no obligation to publish or protect your speech.

What that means is that if you write something stupid or off-topic or hateful or I-simply-don't-like-it -- it might get deleted. End of story.

This is not censorship - this is me and my PaleoHacks admins managing the site. We will manage it to MY WHIMS. <------ Yes. All mine. :)

PS So far, I have been hands-off and generally very flexible. Don't test me.

PPS Don't whine if your question gets deleted and don't take it personally.

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

(3761)

on March 15, 2011
at 12:58 PM

+1 Well said, Patrik.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 27, 2011
at 11:25 AM

The government-citizen dichotomy of censorship is brought up by many a pedant whenever censorship is discussed on online forums. American Heritage Dictionary (from 2000) doesn't even recognize government's role. Censoring: "A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable." No mention of a state actor at all. Given that any mod on any forum is "authorized" to examine and remove objectionable material, it can and should be called censorship.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 27, 2011
at 11:24 AM

The government-citizen dichotomy of "censorship" is brought up by many a pedant whenever censorship is discussed on online forums. American Heritage Dictionary (from 2000) doesn't even recognize it. Censoring: "A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable." No mention of a state actor at all. Given that any mod on any forum is "authorized" to examine and remove objectionable material, it can and should be called censorship.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on May 12, 2012
at 06:25 AM

Great answer!!!

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

(1646)

on May 12, 2012
at 03:19 AM

Well said by both Patrik and Whisper. To put it another way, there is lawful and unlawful censorship: lawful is when I do it, unlawful is when the government does.

12
95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on August 19, 2011
at 04:45 PM

begin persnickety sarcasm

Well, I'm really upset because my question about eating 17 quarts of coconut oil daily to make sure my output conforms to the paleo standard was deleted. I mean really! I just wanted to make sure that I was eating the RIGHT BRAND and getting the PALEO APPROVED (TM pending) output.

end persnickety sarcasm

Thanks to all the moderators who keep this from turning into a midden of drivel.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on December 27, 2011
at 01:28 PM

Oh give me my daily drivel please. And make sure your answer is in the form of a question.

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

(1646)

on May 12, 2012
at 03:14 AM

Strictly speaking, no... While high in fat, it has a generally poor n-3 to n-6 ratio, a glycemic index of 32, and contains cortisol-promoting compounds. I highly recommend the more paleo friendly "meaningless pap" to "meaningless drivel"; it's free range, ass-fed and far more satisfying!

F00e022ce184879578d0829d8d09a85d

(169)

on May 12, 2012
at 01:35 AM

Is drivel paleo?

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47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on March 15, 2011
at 06:51 PM

I hope this isn't out of place but I thought I could offer something that might help clarify.

I think that when Patrik says that you shouldn't take it personally if your question gets closed he really does mean it. I know it's hard not to react that way, since there's that huge bold lettering "Question closed as off topic": it makes you feel like you've done something very bad. But lots and lots of very active paleohackers have had posts closed or even deleted in the past and they're still going at it. (No comment on whether or not this has happened to me, ha ha ...) Agreed, it doesn't always make sense why one thread is closed and not another, but the site has to be kept clean, after all, and there will inevitably be some gray area.

I think it's best viewed this way: OK, that was a bump in the road -- now it's time to keep on paleohackin'.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 15, 2011
at 07:42 PM

Spot on. Thanks WCC Paul.

10
7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on August 19, 2011
at 04:11 PM

I realize that people are passionate but it???s too easy to point the unwarranted virtual finger. I don't know who started this site or all the details about the moderating. It is clearly not monetized so I believe the moderators do this for free? The administrators are spending time on something that has directly benefitted me...at no cost to me. Being rude or irreverent on this site likens to me going to somebody???s house for dinner, proceeding to get belligerent--then expect to be invited to stay for dessert. Yes so some posts get deleted for content or whatever. If you want to have a site where you can do whatever you want then I would advise to start your own...that is the simple solution. I also appreciate that the site stays pretty clean in case I would like to refer somebody like my Mom to it.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on August 19, 2011
at 04:39 PM

Yep. Forums, blogs, websites -- I behave in them as I would in someone's home. If I don't like the atmosphere, I'll just leave, rather than whine. And if I need a platform for my own speech, I'll start my own site.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18452)

on August 19, 2011
at 04:16 PM

some nice perspective there BHC +1

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on August 19, 2011
at 04:27 PM

:) Thanks Jack.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on August 20, 2011
at 11:43 AM

Agreed BHC & Rose.

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 15, 2011
at 05:25 AM

Is paleodietlifestyle connected to the brand of socks I wear? To my bad relationship with my cousin from Alabama?

What.ev.er. I didn't delete that post, but fully support the mod who did. This site shouldn't be allowed to slip into complete parody and the histronics of internet drama kings.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 15, 2011
at 08:50 PM

Ah yes, memes beget memes. Need to spend more time on here I guess.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 15, 2011
at 08:27 PM

Patrick-- it was a joke

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

(1591)

on March 15, 2011
at 09:44 PM

@WCC Paul - I will work harder to get to 3,000 then. :) I've been slacking lately.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 15, 2011
at 06:30 PM

Then why don't more people vote to close some of these questions? Sometimes I'm on the fence and I'm not sure.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on March 15, 2011
at 08:26 PM

@Elizabeth, according to the FAQ you have to have 3,000+ in order to vote to close questions (or reopen them, NB). As of now that's 26 people. Five of them need to vote to close to get a question closed. As far as I know that's how it works.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 15, 2011
at 08:38 PM

There was an answer to that - you slip organ meat in her chili

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

(1591)

on March 15, 2011
at 08:04 PM

@Melissa, you need to have high rep to vote, right? Because I don't see an option.

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

(1591)

on March 15, 2011
at 10:03 AM

I wish that the "only ask questions that have an answer" rule was enforced more strictly, and I really appreciate it when you guys do enforce it. Thanks for all your hard volunteer work to keep the signal-to-noise ratio at PH high.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 15, 2011
at 07:05 PM

***there is no answer to how babby is formed

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 15, 2011
at 07:40 PM

@Kamal - that one slipped by me but I give Melissa a lot of leeway for her great contributions and moderation on PaleoHacks.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 15, 2011
at 08:28 PM

Patrick- I meant it as a joke (that fell flat, apparently)

8
C2502365891cbcc8af2d1cf1d7b0e9fc

(2437)

on March 15, 2011
at 10:02 AM

I think that it can be pretty anal at times. There's always http://reddit.com/r/paleo for a freer exchange of views. Reddit is to the www what usenet used to be to the internet.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 15, 2011
at 03:26 PM

it's funny because it actually seems quite on-topic there

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(19469)

on May 12, 2012
at 12:58 AM

^^^ Right? rPaleo has been working for me lately.

7
Medium avatar

on August 19, 2011
at 04:26 PM

Regarding the moderating in general, it might be viewed more favorably if comments were added to the OP stating something to the effect of "please edit this post to be less political, vague, argumentative, more apropos etc." and then edit/close their post if they do not comply rather than altering without warning.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on August 20, 2011
at 11:42 AM

We do that sometimes --- but there are far too few of us & far too many questions to offer explanations every time. C'est la vie.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on October 01, 2011
at 10:51 AM

Fine, you don't explain me why you delete my questions. But why did I get suspended because you didn't like my question? Can't you just give me a warning?

7
6fa48935d439390e223b9a053a62c981

(1676)

on March 15, 2011
at 02:11 PM

It's only censorship when the government does it.

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

(1646)

on May 12, 2012
at 03:17 AM

I appreciate the spirit, but not quite correct... It's only *unconstitutional* censorship when the government does it. :)

6
9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on August 19, 2011
at 12:48 PM

Yes, we do censor people and "ideas." If your "ideas" involve harassing other users or narcissistic histrionics, we do not tolerate that. Hint: if your answer to a question is "CONFORM OR GET BANNED. BY ALL INTENTION, DO NOT BE YOURSELF OR BE HONEST. YOU HAVE NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH HERE." Well, that's what I call a self-fulfilling prophecy. There are tons of unpopular ideas expressed here by some of our valued community members, so it's not about unpopular opinions, but about whether or not your behavior is anti-social.

6
5672b2d190891342389e764cc4056ca9

(1304)

on March 15, 2011
at 07:43 AM

No, I wouldn't say that it censors people or ideas.

I know there are some mighty eyes watching us from above, but in general they are not intrusive. However, I have to say that there have been a couple of instances in which a question was closed without any good reson, in my opinion.

Glad that Ignacio is back, I would have missed his questions.

5
2f61c841a2834c23f15e6134cf733bff

on December 27, 2011
at 11:07 AM

I stopped my activities here when a question I asked was removed without notice or comment by Patrik. The question I had asked was about our Congressman and their vote to let Pizza be listed as a vegetable in school lunches. It was getting responses right away and then it was taken down. Two days later it was being talked about in the mainstream media.

Now I'm starting to visit PlaeoPlan's new forums. I wonder how long this response will remain in this thread?

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 27, 2011
at 06:14 PM

Just asking--if you stopped your activities here how did you post this answer? Hey, we all can disagree or get our feelings hurt--mine were bruised yesterday--but overall this is a terrific place for conversation.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on December 28, 2011
at 04:31 AM

Paul Brin, your question was one of politics. I don't allow politics on PaleoHacks. End of story.

4
77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 15, 2011
at 05:22 PM

Yea this site has control freaks who feel the need to go on power trips but what forum doesn't?

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on March 15, 2011
at 06:54 PM

I agree with Patrik here. I've had posts deleted, and after thinking about it, makes sense. A site like this can easily be muddled with crud, which devalues the great resource we have here in this site.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 15, 2011
at 05:58 PM

Justanotherhunt --- you are dead wrong -- there are no control freaks here at PaleoHacks -- just a bunch of moderators who are trying to maintain a high-quality site.

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(1591)

on March 15, 2011
at 09:47 PM

It's naht a foruhm! (Said like Ahnuld.)

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B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on July 25, 2011
at 02:21 PM

What that means is that if you write something stupid or off-topic or hateful or I-simply-don't-like-it -- it might get deleted. End of story.

I'm okay with that. But why did my 'Did your penis grow' post get deleted while I was being completely serious. I even got a decent scientific answer. And even if it was wishful thinking, the post didn't harm anybody in any possible way. Deleting such a question is like censoring a book because you don't like the title.

I don't HAVE to go here to get paleo answers. Heck, if I want I can make my own website and moderate it myself. On the other hand, I like the design, only two of my questions got deleted, and there's a lot of great people here, so I don't see why I would leave.

But please - tell people when you delete a question.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on July 25, 2011
at 04:59 PM

Sorry -- don't have time to do so -- check out what the FAQ say about that.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on July 26, 2011
at 02:12 PM

What time? Can't you automate that?

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Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

on March 15, 2011
at 05:15 PM

Dear Patrik you said, while addressing my question-thread on censorship, environmental disasters and paleo-view that "you write something stupid or off-topic or hateful or I-simply-don't-like-it -- it might get deleted." I am sure my question was not stupid, there is nothing hateful on being worried about the environment (in particular with enormous disasters going on lately) and not even off-topic, unless there is a rather narrow definition of what paleo hacks is about, like being very restrictive about just talking on diet, etc. Should I conclude that questions like that one get closed down just because you or some other hackers "do not like it"? I am not arguing about your legal right to do it, it is just that, if that is the prevailing attitude, I would have much less incentives to participate at paleohacks.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 15, 2011
at 07:27 PM

Ignacio --- For the record, your question was stupid, not you. Also, I am not apologizing to you. I have nothing to apologize for. You have tried my patience too far. I have made every effort to accommodate you - I even lifted your suspension as to give you the benefit of the doubt. Bottom line: On PaleoHacks, you have to play by MY rules. If not, you can either leave voluntarily or I will delete your account.

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

(1591)

on March 15, 2011
at 05:49 PM

Ignacio - read the FAQ. It is off-topic at PH if: "Avoid asking questions that are overly subjective, argumentative, or require extended discussion. This is not a discussion board nor a blog, this is a place for questions that can be answered!"

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on March 15, 2011
at 06:11 PM

I think the hysteria/drama is what you plus people as Elizabeth (always on the close thing stuff!)create with an obsessive, control-oriented mentality. If I were in your place I would not take issue at anything that is not insulting or hateful, nor close it. BTW on a personal level I do not accept apologies of anyone calling me "stupid".

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 15, 2011
at 06:01 PM

Ignacio -- as Elizabeth points out your question was not really a question - 1) it was an argumentative discussion 2) and I thought it was stupid. (Sorry, but being honest with you). 3) This is the nature of all forum-type sites on the web. 4) Your hysteria/drama is NOT appreciated BTW. 5) As a gesture of kindness, I lifted your suspension. 6) Get over all of this already.

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(383)

on March 16, 2011
at 05:06 AM

I'm fine with having the questions moderated. It is indeed necessary to keep the quality high. Just sometimes I'm surprised when a question just disappears. I guess this is a deletion. But doesn't it make more sense to only close those to also give others a chance to see why that question was closed? Maybe lower the number of votes to close a question to 2 or 3 and give a good reasoning why it was closed.

Then again, thanks to all Mods for their contribution to this great site ;-)

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(169)

on May 12, 2012
at 01:31 AM

Whoever runs the site has the right to do whatever they feel like doing. If they see a post or question they don't like then they will remove it. If a person feels wronged by having something removed a he/she can either cry about it (which will get them nowhere) or they can start their own blog. Another option would be to post elsewhere like Facebook, there are many online outlets for a person to express themselves.

What I find funny and ironic are people who get themselves censored, they are more than likely to do it themselves if they where in charge and would feel just as righteous.

"Pardon me sir, would you like some french cries with that wahburger?"

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Medium avatar

(4878)

on May 12, 2012
at 01:03 AM

Yes, it is a rite of passage to have been censored / deleted by the mods on PH.

I proudly wear that badge. LOL.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 12, 2012
at 02:23 AM

If I had a nickle for every time I was suspended by a mod on PH, I'd have one nickle. But oh boy was I pissed that day!

Medium avatar

(4878)

on May 12, 2012
at 02:18 AM

Yes! Smooches. Or you could add a badge!

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on May 12, 2012
at 01:24 AM

would it be ironic if I deleted this?

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26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on May 11, 2012
at 11:07 PM

Yes. Yes, it does.

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43fc93341e50688992ebd7de8535da18

on May 11, 2012
at 10:33 PM

in my experience, the mods at paleohacks love to delete posts that don't support their agenda of promoting the paleo diet. a favorite strategy that i have experienced is to delete a post b/c it is an exact match to another thread, even though the threads only resemble each other very superficially.

do the mods at paleohacks truly think that people would rather discuss which sandals are more paleo, rather than whether the abundant consumption of meat (especially meat of suspect provenance) is actually beneficial to the human body? apparently they do, given how many of my posts have been deleted around here.

i predict that paleohacks will eventually be a victim of its own restrictions. i already favor sites that allow me to disagree in a constructive manner.

for the record, i support the theories behind paleo eating, but i am also critical of eating massive quantities of meat and meat products, which is so often trumpteted on this site. yes i am a vegan and yes i have read the threads about vegan paleo eating.

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