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How Important is "The Happiness Factor"?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 07, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Hey gang,

Apologies for the uber-long question, but I think this is an important issue.

I've been meaning to post this for a while and have finally gotten my thoughts together, inspired by this thread: http://paleohacks.com/questions/125628/mental-physical#axzz1x7h0c7Hc

Koiron kind of beat me to it, but my question is different enough that I'm making a separate one.

I???ve heard it said that ???you can???t outrun a bad diet.??? (Meaning no matter how much you work out, if you???re eating crap, it is gonna catch up with you.) I???d love to hear your thoughts on ???you can???t out-Paleo a bum life.??? I can???t bring myself to say ???bad??? life, because all things considered, I have it pretty darn good. When (and only when) all other ducks are in a row (very clean diet, sleep, sunlight, etc), if someone isn???t seeing the results they think they should (improvement in either physique or mood/emotions), I???m wondering how much you think overall satisfaction with one???s life is a factor. It seems like I had better results across the board when I was just plain happier. How to get more satisfaction from one???s life is a separate issue, and one that everyone has to figure out for themselves. But I???m curious about your thoughts on the mind/body thing, and just how powerful it is or isn???t.

The background: A few years ago, my work/life situation was very different from how it is now. I loved my work, loved my schedule, and loved my coworkers. I worked noon to midnight (military deployment...long shift), which allowed me to sleep in and do fasted morning workouts, all of which was much more in tune with my own circadian rhythm than my current corporate, early morning city rat-race. My food quality out there was highly suspect, but I stuck pretty well to mostly protein and fat with lots of raw veggies and occasional fruit. (And some sinful treats here and there courtesy of care packages from those pesky Girl Scouts and people???s churches.) I was getting a lot of sunlight and probably walked 3-4 miles a day without even trying, on top of actual workouts. (When you have to walk to the latrine, chow hall, pretty much everywhere, the miles rack up easily.) I leaned out, got stronger, and was generally pretty darn happy and stress-free. (Yes, I know, a wacky scenario for someone in a war zone, but it's true! Although I must admit my experience there was very different from the guys whose lives were literally on the line every day and I'd be doing them a disservice by implying otherwise.) I looked and felt the best I ever have. Despite the food quality not being the best, the overall macros were where I needed them to be and I seemed to have found that mystical "sweet spot" with everything else.

Long story short, pretty much all the pieces fell into place.

Fast forward 4 years. My life is very different now. In all the ways that things were psychologically good out there, they???re piss poor now. Physically, things aren???t all that different. I???m a lot more sedentary now, but I still work out, get as much daylight as I can (which isn???t enough, sadly...trapped in a windowless dungeon at the Pentagon), and if anything, my food quality and overall diet are significantly better. BUT...my physique and emotional health have both taken turns for the worse. I haven???t put on 30 pounds and I???m not about jump onto the train tracks, but I really miss the energetic, fun, optimistic gal I was back then.

So I fully acknowledge that several things are different now, and they're probably all playing at least some role, but to be honest, I feel the biggest difference is that I was just plain happier then. Much happier. And my results were better.

I don't attribute things now to stress, because I don't feel particularly stressed or overburdened. If anything, I don't feel much at all. A total flatline. I don't think it's nutritional, because I think my diet is pretty darn good. I know myself pretty well (very quiet, lots of time for introspection!), and I really believe my complete apathy and low moods are due to spending all day every day in a job and a place that I loathe, with zero fulfillment and sense of self-worth. (Working on a career change...master's in a completely different field expected in Aug. And between work and school, I don't have time for many outside things that might give me a boost, like volunteering, getting involved in the community, etc.) I'm not saying one's career is the only thing affecting happiness, but it's a biggie when you spend 55 hours a week at work & commuting.

Sorry - not trying to whine at all. Not looking for suggestions or sympathy. Just wondering what people's thoughts are on whether it's possible to have great results on Paleo when your mind and heart aren't in a good place. I'm not even talking specifics like stress or depression affecting digestion/immunity. I mean overall really getting into a good groove -- will the physical inputs of Paleo only take you so far?

And for anyone who's experiencing low mood - whether it's full-on depression or just a bad a funk or case of "the blahs," how many of you can point to it being due to diet, vs. a troubling life situation, vs. having every reason to be happy and healthy yet you're still trapped in darkness? (This is probably a completely separate issue on its own. I'm curious about the people who post about depression. In my case, I know very clearly why I'm depressed. Not a whole ton I can do about it at the moment, but I'm doing what I can. I wonder how many people feel like their lives are great but somehow can't sustain an optimistic/positive outlook, with no discernible cause like low vit D or n-3.)

Again, sorry for writing a novel. Aaah, catharsis...

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

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on June 09, 2012
at 06:56 PM

Just discussed this on another thread: http://paleohacks.com/questions/126469/what-are-valid-criticisms-of-the-paleo-diet/126484#126484

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

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on June 09, 2012
at 06:55 PM

Just discussed this on another thread: http://paleohacks.com/questions/126469/what-are-valid-criticisms-of-the-paleo-diet/126484

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on June 08, 2012
at 06:51 PM

That is a good point. I do think a lot about if I would be overall happier on SAD diet (maybe have 10 more pounds of fat, maybe have to count calories more, but get enjoyment from engineered food much more frequently). I think (or at least hope) that is mostly "grass is always greener" type thinking where we envy people eating the tasty stuff, but if we were actually in their shoes, we'd just be fat and even more unhappy.

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on June 08, 2012
at 04:20 PM

But I do wonder how I'd be faring if I was eating the way I used to. I'd probably be a basketcase, whereas at least now I can get out of the house and participate in society. (Kicking and screaming, of course, but I do it, and I know there are people who are truly, clinically troubled and literally can't even go to work.) So I just keep on truckin' because I do have faith that things are going to get better. As long as I have that, I don't worry too much. I feel like if I ever *stop* believing things will improve, *that's* when I should be concerned.

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

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on June 08, 2012
at 04:18 PM

But I do wonder how I'd be faring if I was eating the way I used to. I'd probably be a basketcase, whereas at least now I can get out of the house and participate in society. (Kicking and screaming, of course, but I do it, and I know there are people who are truly, clinically troubled and literally can't even go to work.)

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on June 08, 2012
at 04:17 PM

I agree that success with paleo can drive happiness, but that only goes so far. Eventually you get to a point where the "high" of feeling great and knowing you're doing wonderful things for your health wears off and the reality of the *rest* of your life overpowers it.

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on June 08, 2012
at 11:48 AM

amazing question amy!! I was talking to a girl I met on paleohacks about this recently actually...like the best I have ever been mentally/emotionally/physically I wasn't necessarily trying to be the healthiest I was..it just happened because what I was doing/where I was living/how I was living was just PERFECT for me ... now I live a rat-race life and nothing seems to fit right anymore...clothes, emotions, working out schedule and all...I miss my mojo!!

474ae29b80569199c6589e879e6cd7d1

on June 08, 2012
at 10:00 AM

Call me a cynic, but I think youre describing a life and situation that is pretty common today. Simultaneously alone and surrounded. I think you just have the self honesty to have accurately assessed your situation.

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on June 08, 2012
at 03:00 AM

Pretty much - I work in the test prep industry (the job isn't hard but I don't have any passion or drive for it, the hours are really long, and it's fairly tedious). I'm very isolated because I live all alone and don't have time for a social life after the damn job. It's just a lousy situation. Trying to make it as a freelance writer but it's hard to break into haha.

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on June 07, 2012
at 09:12 PM

Even if something seems wacky to me, who am I to question it when so many others swear by it? (Deliberate intention type stuff.) But you are spot on, Firestorm. A lot of my restlessness comes from a daily existence that is massively out of sync with what I value and what gives me peace. I *am* on a path to change; sometimes it's hard to keep things in perspective when change is so desperately needed yet comes at a snail's pace. Mostly, I feel bad about the (negative) way my personal discontent is causing me to interact with the world. This isn't the kind of energy I want to put out.

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on June 07, 2012
at 09:06 PM

What a beautiful answer! Thank you. And thanks especially for addressing the metaphysical. I think we know so little about the "other" types of energy in the world - the ones we create and receive with our thoughts. Some of it's a little too woo-woo for me, but I freely admit I've been getting into this stuff a little. I've always been a natural pessimist. (Major understatement.) I'm actively trying to cultivate a better outlook because clearly the way I've been operating in the world for 33 years has *not* worked out so well for me. ;-)

474ae29b80569199c6589e879e6cd7d1

on June 07, 2012
at 08:37 PM

Those who do well "on paper" get the least support for a lack of happiness. In particular, your region DC is perceived as being better off than the rest of the nation, better security, pay is decent. When I was there, I did look around and things do seem pretty good. I guess if you're happy with a stable life as a middle-class drone, it's the place to be.

474ae29b80569199c6589e879e6cd7d1

on June 07, 2012
at 08:35 PM

A bit melodramatic, but in general thoughts well expressed sound melodramatic because they are clearly articulated. I'm in the same boat and I try to hide it. It definitely peaks out, usually because my disatisfaction appears in the form of a condescending comment or tone. It's a very negative character trait on my part. It is definitely draining.

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on June 07, 2012
at 08:33 PM

But yes, "on paper," I'm doing okay for myself. Lots of people out there doing better, but plenty doing worse. I wonder about people, too. I think there's a lot more dissatisfaction out there than I'd ever imagine, but some people hide it better than I do. ;-) I try to remind myself you never know what goes on behind closed doors. Not wishing unhappiness upon anyone, but it's nice to feel I'm not alone.

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

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on June 07, 2012
at 08:32 PM

But yes, "on paper," I'm doing okay for myself. Lots of people out there doing better, but plenty doing worse. I wonder about people, too. I think there's a lot more dissatisfaction out there than I'd ever imagine, but some people hide it better than I do. ;-)

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on June 07, 2012
at 08:31 PM

Hmmmm....good questions! The people who know me very well know I'm terribly unhappy, but I think even they don't know *quite* how bad it is. People who just know me in passing and casually at work probably have NO clue. Why would they? I fake it all day - fake smile, lie and say "fine" when they ask how I am. And every time I do it, which is all day, I feel like it drains me just a little bit more. I go for long walks on a nature trail as often as possible to replenish a little bit of the soul that has been depleted. Melodramatic, but true.

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at 08:28 PM

Very insightful. Thanks for the response. And you're so right - I see people on the bus/metro who look happy as clams. If I could just find some way to completely dissociate myself from the negative thoughts all day... I dunno. I think some people genuinely *are* happy in this kind of rat-race existence, and then there are many who aren't, but never take the time to stop and think about living any other way. When you don't know what you're missing, you can go about your merry way...

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on June 07, 2012
at 08:24 PM

Thanks. "Free-range to feedlot" - HA!! So true! And I agree about diet. I credit the way I eat for me not feeling even *worse.* Can't imagine what I'd feel like if I ate the way "everybody else" does.

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on June 07, 2012
at 08:23 PM

Thanks -- and I agree about diet. To be honest, I can't imagine how much *worse* I'd feel if I ate the way "everybody else" does!

474ae29b80569199c6589e879e6cd7d1

on June 07, 2012
at 08:08 PM

As I wrote in my own rambling (though shorter) response, I definitely hear where you're coming from. It's hard when you can't quite seem to put your life on a fulfilling path. It's doubly hard when other people would find your life appealing. Question: Were I to see you, would I guess your disatisfaction? Same question if I knew you casually? If I knew you well? As I walk around, I often wonder who feels content and happy and who doesn't.

474ae29b80569199c6589e879e6cd7d1

on June 07, 2012
at 07:20 PM

What do you do? Are you just stuck in the rat race?

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on June 07, 2012
at 06:46 PM

here's a timely quote from recently deceased author Ray Bradbury: "Love what you do and do what you love. Don’t listen to anyone else who tells you not to do it. You do what you want, what you love. Imagination should be the center of your life."

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at 05:27 PM

And, good luck with school and the new career. That's exciting.

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on June 07, 2012
at 06:44 PM

It's like you went from free-range to feedlot!

I, too, struggle with depression about my job and the things that it requires of me (a LOT of driving, mostly). In addition to the personal frustrations of spending several hours a day in/as traffic, I feel guilty about how my job affects the city I live in and the environment, and I cannot help but feel angry sometimes that this is the accepted norm. I have come to see it as unreasonable (and even unethical) to do what I do since really digging into paleo, but haven't yet found the courage to just quit doing it and start from scratch.

What I have done (and what you are doing, too) is to start making a plan to do something different. Asking myself how I can make my work both valuable to my clients and myself without feeling like a sack of turds, both because I am wasting resources unnecessarily and because I am wasting time that could be spent doing other, more valuable things. And that takes some time.

My good diet keeps me sane. It keeps me from food addiction and from unnecessary medication. It keeps me from feeling hopeless and powerless to change myself and to change my circumstances. Now, maybe that's not "paleo", but it is a way to seek simplification and personal responsibility and community and well-being, which ARE paleo, in my mind.

If dissatisfaction has allowed you to question you path (because you've ruled out diet and you understand why you are depressed), it has been valuable!

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on June 07, 2012
at 08:23 PM

Thanks -- and I agree about diet. To be honest, I can't imagine how much *worse* I'd feel if I ate the way "everybody else" does!

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

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on June 07, 2012
at 08:24 PM

Thanks. "Free-range to feedlot" - HA!! So true! And I agree about diet. I credit the way I eat for me not feeling even *worse.* Can't imagine what I'd feel like if I ate the way "everybody else" does.

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on June 07, 2012
at 08:20 PM

I think that part of the question at hand is "Should happiness be an "all the time" thing?" Honestly, I don't think that it should. I think that it's really a matter of how we look at things.

Every day, we make decisions about what our future is going to look like. For you, you decided that, after your situation changed significantly, you were going to push for MORE change, to bring things back to a state where you were more satisfied with your day-to-day life. Of course, when we're pushing and pulling against the Universe, things are in a lot of upheaval, and often, we 'manage' this upheaval with either withdrawal (that sense of being disconnected and not really feeling anything) or with resistance (anger, frustration, stress, anxiety). These are all normal, transient stages as our life moves from one thing to another.

In terms of our progress in health, no, we're not going to progress at the same speed when our metaphysical being (which is comprised of the physical being, plus all of the electrical impulses generated by our emotions, thoughts, etc.) is already being pushed to its boundaries in one area -- progress elsewhere is bound to slow down, stop, or even move backwards a bit. The thing is, if we retain the habits that prevent further damage to our physical selves while we're struggling with metaphysical issues, it reduces the distance we'll have to recover when the metaphysical self re-balances itself. So while we may not make leaps and bounds in terms of progress, every little bit that we do, to the extent that we're able without further stressing the boundaries of our overall metaphysical capacity, is helping us to sustain our health through the less-than-stellar parts of our lives.

And even then, an Oreo, Reese's Peanut Butter Cup, or Girl Scout cookie may provide that rare metaphysical boost that occasionally just brings a little sunshine into an otherwise bleak day. For me, the decision to live essentially primally was one that I underwent to get a better quality of life for myself -- so that is the first thing I examine when I'm looking for success -- has my n=1 resulted in a more satisfactory life? -- So I don't seek perfection... instead, I look with a positive frame of mind at how every decision I've made and every encounter/experience I've undertaken has shaped the path to lead me to the life that I now live... and from there, I look and see where I can "plant a flower" so to speak, to beautify the existence I'm living. Primal living is part of that beautification for me, and whether or not I experience physical success at any given moment, as long as I can see that metaphysical success and ongoing progress, and as long as I can see that I am actually continuing to move towards my goal, I consider myself doing well, regardless of my current circumstance.

I hope this made sense -- sorry if it started to ramble a bit.

FireStorm

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on June 07, 2012
at 09:06 PM

What a beautiful answer! Thank you. And thanks especially for addressing the metaphysical. I think we know so little about the "other" types of energy in the world - the ones we create and receive with our thoughts. Some of it's a little too woo-woo for me, but I freely admit I've been getting into this stuff a little. I've always been a natural pessimist. (Major understatement.) I'm actively trying to cultivate a better outlook because clearly the way I've been operating in the world for 33 years has *not* worked out so well for me. ;-)

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on June 07, 2012
at 09:12 PM

Even if something seems wacky to me, who am I to question it when so many others swear by it? (Deliberate intention type stuff.) But you are spot on, Firestorm. A lot of my restlessness comes from a daily existence that is massively out of sync with what I value and what gives me peace. I *am* on a path to change; sometimes it's hard to keep things in perspective when change is so desperately needed yet comes at a snail's pace. Mostly, I feel bad about the (negative) way my personal discontent is causing me to interact with the world. This isn't the kind of energy I want to put out.

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on June 07, 2012
at 06:06 PM

Clearly what you eat is only one component in a whole array of things that make for a healthy life. Your satisfaction with what you are doing with your days will have an impact on your physical well-being and health. As I've said elsewhere on PH, it doesn't make much sense to separate mental health from physical health, they are definitely connected, as we already know through the stress hormones like cortisol.

Your post is interesting because it strikes me as a sort of n=1 for activity (as opposed to food) ... you have pinpointed the things that satisfy you in day-to-day life. Now the challenge will be to find yourself a job or place where you can make them happen. I'm sure you can do it. have faith in yourself! You sound like an eminently capable person.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on June 07, 2012
at 06:46 PM

here's a timely quote from recently deceased author Ray Bradbury: "Love what you do and do what you love. Don’t listen to anyone else who tells you not to do it. You do what you want, what you love. Imagination should be the center of your life."

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on June 07, 2012
at 05:18 PM

I think I wouldn't look at it as happiness is a way to drive paleo success, but paleo success is a way to drive happiness. And, as you pointed out, it is just one of the many drivers of happiness.

I agree with you 100% on the job thing. It's not "paleo" to sit in an office all day doing something from which you rarely if ever see the concrete real life impact. A job used to mean hunting/gathering food, building shelter, etc:

http://paleohacks.com/questions/111212/we-talk-a-lot-about-food-and-exercise-here-but-what-are-some-of-your-paleo-ish/111271#111271

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on June 07, 2012
at 05:27 PM

And, good luck with school and the new career. That's exciting.

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on June 08, 2012
at 04:17 PM

I agree that success with paleo can drive happiness, but that only goes so far. Eventually you get to a point where the "high" of feeling great and knowing you're doing wonderful things for your health wears off and the reality of the *rest* of your life overpowers it.

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on June 08, 2012
at 04:18 PM

But I do wonder how I'd be faring if I was eating the way I used to. I'd probably be a basketcase, whereas at least now I can get out of the house and participate in society. (Kicking and screaming, of course, but I do it, and I know there are people who are truly, clinically troubled and literally can't even go to work.)

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on June 09, 2012
at 06:56 PM

Just discussed this on another thread: http://paleohacks.com/questions/126469/what-are-valid-criticisms-of-the-paleo-diet/126484#126484

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at 04:20 PM

But I do wonder how I'd be faring if I was eating the way I used to. I'd probably be a basketcase, whereas at least now I can get out of the house and participate in society. (Kicking and screaming, of course, but I do it, and I know there are people who are truly, clinically troubled and literally can't even go to work.) So I just keep on truckin' because I do have faith that things are going to get better. As long as I have that, I don't worry too much. I feel like if I ever *stop* believing things will improve, *that's* when I should be concerned.

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on June 08, 2012
at 06:51 PM

That is a good point. I do think a lot about if I would be overall happier on SAD diet (maybe have 10 more pounds of fat, maybe have to count calories more, but get enjoyment from engineered food much more frequently). I think (or at least hope) that is mostly "grass is always greener" type thinking where we envy people eating the tasty stuff, but if we were actually in their shoes, we'd just be fat and even more unhappy.

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

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on June 09, 2012
at 06:55 PM

Just discussed this on another thread: http://paleohacks.com/questions/126469/what-are-valid-criticisms-of-the-paleo-diet/126484

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on June 07, 2012
at 06:34 PM

I think happiness is very very important. However, my question is - where does it come from? I think happiness is different for everyone.

There are many sources of happiness and they all are important. Think of it as if it is a diamond with many sides. If one side shines and another one is very dull, then ... it is still a diamond, but the quality is not the same.

Some people are happy when they go to clubs and listen to loud music. Not I.

I found that happiness for me personally is being around people I love. My friends and family make me happy.

Food is very important for me, just as another "side" of my happiness.

Being in nature makes me happy too. I love sunshine, but I love thunderstorms even more.

Being happy with my work is also a part of my overall happiness.

Being healthy and active is a huge part of my happiness.

What makes me unhappy - usually situations and other people. Situations I can always deal with - there are no dead ends. Other people - this is harder. I hate people who yell, scream and lie. I mean, I can take everything, but if somebody does it - that ruins my state of happiness for the whole entire day. And if I have to yell or reprimand someone - that also ruins my day. Fortunately, I don't have to do it too often.

I also believe that happy people live longer and are healthier.

Not sure if I answered your question, but at least I have tried.

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on June 07, 2012
at 06:33 PM

Interesting question.

I know that for me personally, when I'm not a in a good place mentally or emotionally, I tend to get bummed out about my diet. I start to resent paleo because in my head I'm thinking "I bet ice cream would really cheer me up right now." I've always had a hard time kicking the "eating when depressed" habit.

Meanwhile, if I'm in a good place in my life, I don't think about my diet at all. I eat when I'm hungry, and I couldn't care less what I'm eating, so paleo is effortless. I stick to the "food is fuel" concept when they rest of my life is going well.

I also find that I tend to gain weight no matter what I eat when I'm stressed or depressed, so it benefits me to find a way to keep myself upbeat. You should check out the book "The Charge: Activating the 10 Human Drives that Make You Feel Alive." It has a lot of helpful advice for keeping yourself upbeat and positive.

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on June 07, 2012
at 06:05 PM

I think it's definitely a factor. I'm a month away from a visit to England to see my boyfriend, where I consider it my "2 weeks of happiness". All things considered, I have it pretty good over here, but my well-being just exponentially improves when I'm over there, and I see other improvements in my body (weight loss, etc) and mood that I struggle to see here.

I can simply pin it down to being happier there, where here I'm in a cycle of trying to keep occupied and killing time till my next visit. I'm not stressed, just neutral. My low mood is absolutely because of the life around me and things I really want to change, but can't (at this moment) for various reasons.

My overall goal is to move over there so it's not a long distance relationship anymore.

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on June 07, 2012
at 07:11 PM

Completely agree with you - I'm in a similar boat and it's so miserable. I hate my job and I'm working myself to the bone trying to find a way out but all I get for it is huge shadows under my eyes and constant panic attacks. My diet is awesome (and I bike commute in Miami, so plenty of Vitamin D), but I never really feel healthy because I'm always dizzy and sore from stress/fatigue. I felt much better, physically speaking, on the SAD under better circumstances. I really don't think it's possible to have good health with diet alone (it's necessary but not sufficient). Your mind and body are too closely related.

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on June 07, 2012
at 07:20 PM

What do you do? Are you just stuck in the rat race?

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on June 08, 2012
at 10:00 AM

Call me a cynic, but I think youre describing a life and situation that is pretty common today. Simultaneously alone and surrounded. I think you just have the self honesty to have accurately assessed your situation.

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on June 08, 2012
at 03:00 AM

Pretty much - I work in the test prep industry (the job isn't hard but I don't have any passion or drive for it, the hours are really long, and it's fairly tedious). I'm very isolated because I live all alone and don't have time for a social life after the damn job. It's just a lousy situation. Trying to make it as a freelance writer but it's hard to break into haha.

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