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Melatonin backfiring?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 03, 2012 at 12:33 PM

So I've had several times where melatonin, both regular and time release has prevented, where the night before/after there was no issue with sleep, but I didn't take it.

I don't normally take the stuff, and from the looks of it, I don't actually need it anymore, and shouldn't take it, but I'm curious as to the mechanism here.

When I do take the regular stuff, I do fall asleep quickly, but wake up an hour or two later very awake and refreshed, of course, I do get tired again, and the loss of sleep for an hour or two after waking causes me to be groggy the next morning. If I double the dose the same thing happens, so that's not the issue. (Ironically, I wanted to ensure I got good sleep because of stuff to do the next day. The loss of sleep didn't cause much a problem, but it's a curious effect.)

The time release stuff seems to be worse, it keeps me awake most of the night.

I rarely wake up in the middle of the night, though sometimes it happens from low flying airplanes, or the need to urinate, or whatever.

I'm generally VLC, with one or two nights a week of a carb refeed after large workouts, so not quite a carb backloading plan, but close. If I don't eat carbs and don't take melatonin, I don't generally have issues with sleep.

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on October 03, 2012
at 06:21 PM

My sleep doc recommends against using melatonin unless you use it every night. Intermittent use tends to throw off your body's production of its own melatonin. It could be that's your problem.

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on October 03, 2012
at 05:49 PM

I do take magnesium malate regularly, and ZMA, perhaps they interact.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on October 03, 2012
at 05:49 PM

Very rarely, only as needed, it used to work, doesn't any more. The regular one I took was 3mg, even doubling it didn't do much but cause me to wake up a couple of hours later refreshed and ready to wonder why I'm awake at 11pm. :)

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on October 03, 2012
at 05:47 PM

Like I said, I don't plan on taking more, just wondering WHY.

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on October 03, 2012
at 04:26 PM

Is it bad that I thought this post was going to be about Melatonin giving you gas?

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8634d4988ced45a68e2a79e69cc01835

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on October 03, 2012
at 04:28 PM

I've read Melatonin can have the opposite effect in some people, keeping them up rather than helping them sleep! Maybe that's you? You could try magnesium supplements like Natural Calm before bed? I go through weird cycles where I sleep well all night for a time, then I'll transition into waking in the middle of the night for a time... It's odd. I can't connect it to anything I change, or do. But I'm female so it could be hormonal.

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on October 03, 2012
at 05:49 PM

I do take magnesium malate regularly, and ZMA, perhaps they interact.

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89c5726021149f9833fb0dbb66f838f6

on October 03, 2012
at 04:05 PM

Middle insomnia makes me think cortisol regulation problems. If that's the issue, melatonin will only help around the edges. Is it possible that when you're a little extra stressed about the next day, you tend to take more melatonin?

You don't mention your melatonin schedule. Do you take it every night, or as needed?

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on October 03, 2012
at 05:49 PM

Very rarely, only as needed, it used to work, doesn't any more. The regular one I took was 3mg, even doubling it didn't do much but cause me to wake up a couple of hours later refreshed and ready to wonder why I'm awake at 11pm. :)

89c5726021149f9833fb0dbb66f838f6

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on October 03, 2012
at 06:21 PM

My sleep doc recommends against using melatonin unless you use it every night. Intermittent use tends to throw off your body's production of its own melatonin. It could be that's your problem.

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on October 03, 2012
at 02:59 PM

Hi Raydawg! Same here.... If I take XR Melatonin, I wake up in the middle of the night.

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on October 03, 2012
at 01:56 PM

Stop screwing around with your health. Just sleep normally.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on October 03, 2012
at 05:47 PM

Like I said, I don't plan on taking more, just wondering WHY.

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