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Is it even possible to save the medical industry at this point?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 09, 2012 at 1:12 AM

I wouldn't even describe myself as a cynical person, but at this point, I don't think it's possible to save the medical-pharmaceutical-agricultural food industry complex. I think it would be a waste of time, money and the health of people if we tried to "fix" the Western medical system and implement dietary disease prevention.

There are a lot of stooges out there that would take one look at a FODMAPs diet or auto-immune diets protocol and say "screw that, I'd rather take a pill." Nevermind the fact that it provides temporary and permanent relief to many people, it's much more simple to continue eating a SAD. That being said, it's their right to choose the method of treatment. Some people will go the natural route, some will go the chemical/pharmaceutical route.

I think the best alternative is to create two separate medical industry regulatory agencies - one for mainstream medicine and the other for natural/holistic healing. Health insurance should work for both obviously.

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on September 09, 2012
at 02:54 PM

Actually there are natural alternatives to cancer and AIDS. In fact, I suspect that we'll have to resort to a natural means of curing cancer in the near future, because radiation and chemotherapy rates of success have improved maybe 5% since the 80s. Not sure about staph or gonorrhea, but those are relatively easily treated with short bouts of antibiotics (but then there's the issue of antibiotics themselves.) I would go as far as to say many things in holistic health are focused on restoring organ function, so they're preventative in regards to organ failure.

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on September 09, 2012
at 02:34 PM

I agree with many of your points, so +1. I'd like to point out, however, the biggest class of illnesses that are hardest to diagnose, easy to self-diagnose, often chronic, and generally treated cheaply by medication: mental illness. Everything from Ritalin to Prozac. And then the side effects they cause, often metabolic or digestive in nature... keeps the ball rolling to Big Pharma.

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on September 09, 2012
at 01:37 AM

No. Put your faith in the alternative and holistic health field. The western medical machine has marginalized, demonized, and even tried to eliminate alternative holistic treatment for the better part of a century. The only reason these alternative providers are still around is because they actually continue to help the public restore health in natural conservative manners that work....and the public itself won't allow these professionals to die out or be absorbed.

OTOH there are quite a few MD's and nurse practitioners making the foray into functional medicine. As it becomes more and more evident that their sick care model is not working some of them are changing tactic. The sad thing is nobody will remember that for an overwhelming amount of time they claimed anything but allopathic medicine was dangerous pseudoscience.

I like the concept of "sick care" or "catastrophe care" for the medical model.....and "health care" for the holistic model.

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on September 09, 2012
at 12:26 PM

It's like asking if it's possible to save the Roman Empire. Sorry, the barbarians are past the gates, and the problem is far deeper than just the medical industry.

Whenever things like financing and insurance enter into anything, the cost goes up astronomically. I wasn't alive back then, but from what I understand, people were able to afford doctors as needed, and doctors made house calls in the past century. Also, cars and houses weren't something you got loans for, people would save up and buy them as needed.

Introduce financing, and you've got an incentive for raising prices astronomically - and of course debt and debt slavery. Introduce health-insurance and the same happens in the medical field.

In the end, all roads lead to the banksters.

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on September 09, 2012
at 02:07 PM

I'll play Devil's advocate here. While there are alternative holistic treatments that can be effective for some things, major illnesses (like cancer; AIDS; drug-resistant Staph and Gonorrhea; severe burns; organ failures) have no naturalistic alternative. Western medicine has done wonders for the human race and it's short sighted to claim it is 'dead' or 'beyond saving'.

Yes, there are cases of exploitation or abuse, especially in the diet/weight-loss arena. But diet pills are less a reflection of the medical industry, and more a reflection of the pharmacological. They are looking for profit and selling diet pills is very profitable. Doctors often prescribe them, but that is because their patients want a quick/easy fix. "Exercise and eat better" is still the most common advice.

I think you are making the mistake of lumping the medical industry in with the supplement industry.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on September 09, 2012
at 02:34 PM

I agree with many of your points, so +1. I'd like to point out, however, the biggest class of illnesses that are hardest to diagnose, easy to self-diagnose, often chronic, and generally treated cheaply by medication: mental illness. Everything from Ritalin to Prozac. And then the side effects they cause, often metabolic or digestive in nature... keeps the ball rolling to Big Pharma.

0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

(5150)

on September 09, 2012
at 02:54 PM

Actually there are natural alternatives to cancer and AIDS. In fact, I suspect that we'll have to resort to a natural means of curing cancer in the near future, because radiation and chemotherapy rates of success have improved maybe 5% since the 80s. Not sure about staph or gonorrhea, but those are relatively easily treated with short bouts of antibiotics (but then there's the issue of antibiotics themselves.) I would go as far as to say many things in holistic health are focused on restoring organ function, so they're preventative in regards to organ failure.

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on September 09, 2012
at 05:07 AM

Read Pharmadegddon (Healy, 2012) and then educate your MDs..They need to know how and why Big Pharm took their jobs...and now they are nothing more than pill pushers.

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on September 09, 2012
at 01:37 PM

As a nurse in a nursing home I can say for sure...NOPE. The system is corrupted by drug companies. Anytime a new drug comes out, it shows up first in nursing homes. Wonder why...hmmmmm.

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