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Any unusal steps you have taken to cement your paleo results?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 18, 2011 at 12:25 AM

I fired my dairy and meat suppliers last week when I randomly decided to send sample to our lab to check omega 6 and 3 indices and levels of of certain nutrients and toxic metals and other nasties.....

What extremes have you done to hack yourself to health?

B1859f696e88d25460a6b8a333412ea3

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on July 20, 2011
at 06:05 PM

The Quilt: So you only vacation at your home(s), so that your eating choices are not limited to restaurants? I'm puzzled as to why you don't understand that going on a vacation - such as a cruise or staying in a hotel in vacation spot limits ones options.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on July 18, 2011
at 08:57 PM

I was ordering meat from Thundering Hooves and picking it up at a local catering place. However, a little googlage to get their url for you just revealed that they went out of business a few months ago. I hope you can't hear the swearing from where you are.

Cc7381bd787721575ea9198048132adb

(5541)

on July 18, 2011
at 07:56 PM

So freaking jealous!

03f5a69fde4012b827ebdb6d93b71e7a

(2007)

on July 18, 2011
at 06:05 PM

Ditto. I get all my meat direct now too.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:46 PM

Plus one.........

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:46 PM

I do too. I think this is why I don't understand why it seems so many fall off the wagon when they vacation

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:44 PM

The ratio should be 4 to 1. It can go lower but it is rare these days. Some meat in Europe still approaches one to one

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

(8767)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:27 PM

I'd be curious to see what testing of these products shows.....just to confirm that its a organic and wholesome as it sounds..

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

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on July 18, 2011
at 03:26 PM

wow, so cool you can do that!!

Da8e709acde269e8b8bfbc09d1737841

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on July 18, 2011
at 03:25 PM

Where do you order your meat from?

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:24 PM

that's awesome!

Cc7381bd787721575ea9198048132adb

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on July 18, 2011
at 12:29 PM

For me, time in the garden = mindfulness/meditation. Two pasture raised, insect eating birds with one stone ;)

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on July 18, 2011
at 12:19 PM

those last three are just tremendously important, and the sad part of American life nowadays is that as soon as you vocalize something like that you are laughed out of the room - hippie, space cadet, faux-buddhist blah blah. But these are very real, influential things in life. Once you realize it makes it difficult thinking about the masses (and family members, etc) who fail to practice these things. Our minds are chaotic in the extreme. In the US we are simply not taught anything about quiet time, solitude, quieting the mind, etc. Unfortunate.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on July 18, 2011
at 12:16 PM

I think avoiding restaurant food as much as possible is one of the biggest factors in one's health. Of course the quality of the restaurant changes the equation but generally speaking, in the US if you eat from anywhere other than your house you are not doing your body good.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on July 18, 2011
at 12:15 PM

"The grass fed meat had way too high 6/3 ratio" - what was that actual ratio?

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

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on July 18, 2011
at 08:14 AM

I like your post, i agree about quality. And props for growing own greens! I at most gather some nettles and blueberries from bushes, but its alot of work if you want to fill your stomach :)

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on July 18, 2011
at 04:13 AM

Quilt - I have read that we can store 06 in bodyfat. Could it be that you have been really dipping into your fat stores and liberating those old stored 06 fats?

C2502365891cbcc8af2d1cf1d7b0e9fc

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on July 18, 2011
at 04:06 AM

I tried to argue quality was more important than quantity recently, and got downvoted into oblivion. I'm glad you've been able to express it better.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:57 AM

I dont eat out often either.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:55 AM

I think they have but I have been blaming other things. I am a tester and tweeker. This is one area that is out of my control unless I test the food I eat. From here on out I will be doing this biannually. I think it matters. The reason I did it was my 6/3 ratio jumped up the last two quarters for no reason i could pin point from my behavior. This was why it happened.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on July 18, 2011
at 02:17 AM

So.. what you're saying is that the "bad" products nave had no negative effect on your health. Now THAT is something to think about.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on July 18, 2011
at 02:13 AM

So.. what you're saying is that the "bad" products had no ill effects on your health. Now THAT is some info I can use!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 02:01 AM

I check myself every three months so that is never a question. Im a total believer in the quantified life style. It was my secret weapon to health in my opinion.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 02:00 AM

I think that is unusal and I think its a smart move too. plus one

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 01:59 AM

We have a lab here in town that can do testing on meat and dairy products for local farmers and the owner is one of my patients. He asked me if I wanted it tested and I said yes. The grass fed meat had way too high 6/3 ratio. I then sent them a sample of two other suppliers and the ratios were much better. The raw dairy had too low vit K 2 and too high metals in it. Lots of pesticide residues too.....so I fired my farmer.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on July 18, 2011
at 01:38 AM

I'd be curious to know what you found, and if you think it is indeed even possible to find squeaky clean meat on our industrial planet.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on July 18, 2011
at 01:02 AM

You have your own food science lab?

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on July 18, 2011
at 12:27 AM

you tested the food, or yourself?

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A089b683ee0498f2b21b7edfa300e405

on July 18, 2011
at 03:20 AM

I grow ALL my leafy greens.

I grow some seasonal fruits/vegetables, encourage neighbors to grow others, exchange some and then buy a few.

Make my own yogurt with live cultures.

Use grass fed goat meat more than other ruminants - I have discovered that goats are mostly raised by grazing as they are very good at clearing brush.

I use bio active Manuka Honey, just for those rare sweet cravings.

Use a lot of different varieties of green teas throughout the day.

Set aside some time for 'thoughtlessness' - complete quietness of my mind - everyday.

Meander along different routes for a walk, early morning or late evening.

I Live a lot and I Love a lot as both love and life are not about quantity, they are about quality, and a quality of a certain category that grows by giving, and dies if you hold it. So I am a spendthrift!

Cc7381bd787721575ea9198048132adb

(5541)

on July 18, 2011
at 12:29 PM

For me, time in the garden = mindfulness/meditation. Two pasture raised, insect eating birds with one stone ;)

C2502365891cbcc8af2d1cf1d7b0e9fc

(2437)

on July 18, 2011
at 04:06 AM

I tried to argue quality was more important than quantity recently, and got downvoted into oblivion. I'm glad you've been able to express it better.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on July 18, 2011
at 12:19 PM

those last three are just tremendously important, and the sad part of American life nowadays is that as soon as you vocalize something like that you are laughed out of the room - hippie, space cadet, faux-buddhist blah blah. But these are very real, influential things in life. Once you realize it makes it difficult thinking about the masses (and family members, etc) who fail to practice these things. Our minds are chaotic in the extreme. In the US we are simply not taught anything about quiet time, solitude, quieting the mind, etc. Unfortunate.

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on July 18, 2011
at 08:14 AM

I like your post, i agree about quality. And props for growing own greens! I at most gather some nettles and blueberries from bushes, but its alot of work if you want to fill your stomach :)

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on July 18, 2011
at 01:35 AM

I don't know how unusual this is for folks here, but I stopped going to the grocery store.

I signed up for home delivery from a CSA and organic grocer, and I direct order meat. We do go to the store when we need to stock up on coconut oil, wine, dark chocolate, frozen berries and butter, but that's it. Fewer impulse buys means more money for meat, yay!

Da8e709acde269e8b8bfbc09d1737841

(1906)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:25 PM

Where do you order your meat from?

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

(8767)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:27 PM

I'd be curious to see what testing of these products shows.....just to confirm that its a organic and wholesome as it sounds..

03f5a69fde4012b827ebdb6d93b71e7a

(2007)

on July 18, 2011
at 06:05 PM

Ditto. I get all my meat direct now too.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on July 18, 2011
at 08:57 PM

I was ordering meat from Thundering Hooves and picking it up at a local catering place. However, a little googlage to get their url for you just revealed that they went out of business a few months ago. I hope you can't hear the swearing from where you are.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 02:00 AM

I think that is unusal and I think its a smart move too. plus one

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44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:04 PM

I just came back from the woods. I gathered 4lbs wild blueberries. Finnish nature is still relatively clean so this is about as paleo food i can get. And its free. Also 20kms of cycling to go to the forrest. It was a good field day. Tomorrow again! :)

Cc7381bd787721575ea9198048132adb

(5541)

on July 18, 2011
at 07:56 PM

So freaking jealous!

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:24 PM

that's awesome!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:46 PM

Plus one.........

4
Cc7381bd787721575ea9198048132adb

on July 18, 2011
at 12:27 PM

Farmers Markets. While I wouldn't myself consider this an extreme, most people have never been to one. Supporting farmers that provide local, healthier, cheaper, fresher meat and produce has been the single most important change I've made to better my health.

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64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:32 AM

I've eliminated completely any food that has an ingredient list longer than 1.

And I've reduced eating at restaurants to 1-2 meals/month, and those meals are purely for social reasons.

Those two things have affected my health more than anything.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on July 18, 2011
at 12:16 PM

I think avoiding restaurant food as much as possible is one of the biggest factors in one's health. Of course the quality of the restaurant changes the equation but generally speaking, in the US if you eat from anywhere other than your house you are not doing your body good.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:57 AM

I dont eat out often either.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:46 PM

I do too. I think this is why I don't understand why it seems so many fall off the wagon when they vacation

B1859f696e88d25460a6b8a333412ea3

(837)

on July 20, 2011
at 06:05 PM

The Quilt: So you only vacation at your home(s), so that your eating choices are not limited to restaurants? I'm puzzled as to why you don't understand that going on a vacation - such as a cruise or staying in a hotel in vacation spot limits ones options.

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