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Is Paleofantasy just a simple misguided book, or is there something deeper?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created April 08, 2013 at 11:13 PM

I've been seeing a lot of press for this Paleofantasy book lately. Almost too much. It seems odd that a book with some serious misinformation about a small segment of the population is getting way too much mainstream attention. Do you think its just because Paleo has touched a nerve in some people, or that there some major money behind the promotion effort? I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but it's gotten more attention than it appears to deserve.

"first they ignore your, then they attack you, then they embrace you."

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on May 19, 2013
at 03:03 AM

paid-off shills..../?

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on April 10, 2013
at 03:09 AM

I think she's happy fixing it to her tastes,like a Hyacinth Bucket or Martha Stewart.

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on April 09, 2013
at 08:31 PM

And your misspellings.

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on April 09, 2013
at 07:04 PM

If only somebody could save us from our dilusions!

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on April 09, 2013
at 06:33 PM

Probably has the same ratio of fact:misinformation as any paleo author trolling for an easy buck.

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on April 09, 2013
at 06:14 PM

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-it-all-just-a-paleofantasy/

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on April 09, 2013
at 05:48 PM

I love it when people invoke their anthropomorphic fantasies to make their point. Wild Animals I Have Known. Bambi. Red Riding Hood is a lot better than her bug stuff on the same subject. I prefer the fantasy images of wolf and woodsman to the katydid.

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on April 09, 2013
at 05:45 PM

I think your first sentence nails it. It's simply good capitalism.

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on April 09, 2013
at 05:10 PM

Sheep herding 101.

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on April 09, 2013
at 12:39 AM

Vested interests and zealotry are significant motivational forces, don't underestimate them.

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6864d23c49952605b2a97d6256af804d

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on April 09, 2013
at 05:31 PM

She's trolling to make an easy buck. She doesn't study nutrition and her methods are mainly observational. Her other popular writing also involves shallow attacks on straw men and useless conclusions. Her formula: (1) Describe observations; (2) casually attempt transition to something of relevance to the reader; (3) insert straw man; (4) suggest that supporters of straw man open their meager minds; (5) draw shallow, overly-general conclusions that benefit no one in practice. Take, for example, her piece in WSJ 'Can bugs improve your sex life?':

'While the enterprising reader is free to use any of these behaviors as inspiration for his or her own sex life, the bigger picture is that insects have a lot to teach us about sex without necessarily providing a graphic how-to. What I love best about insects is their freewheeling ability to break all the rules and make up new ones. If you only think about humans, or even humans and other primates, or even humans and other mammals, including rats and mice, you get an extraordinarily limited view of life???s possibilities. Take gender roles, where people often defend a rather 1950s view of passive homebody females and sexually-adventurous males by claiming it is biologically ???natural.??? Clearly these people have never seen a female katydid' blah blah blah.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/08/01/can-bugs-improve-your-sex-life/

5e5ff249c9161b8cd96d7eff6043bc3a

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on April 09, 2013
at 05:45 PM

I think your first sentence nails it. It's simply good capitalism.

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on April 09, 2013
at 06:33 PM

Probably has the same ratio of fact:misinformation as any paleo author trolling for an easy buck.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on April 09, 2013
at 07:04 PM

If only somebody could save us from our dilusions!

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(39831)

on April 09, 2013
at 08:31 PM

And your misspellings.

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on April 09, 2013
at 05:48 PM

I love it when people invoke their anthropomorphic fantasies to make their point. Wild Animals I Have Known. Bambi. Red Riding Hood is a lot better than her bug stuff on the same subject. I prefer the fantasy images of wolf and woodsman to the katydid.

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on April 09, 2013
at 10:06 PM

The main paleofantasy revealed here is that Marlene Zuk wishes she'd thought of the paleo diet first.

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on April 10, 2013
at 03:09 AM

I think she's happy fixing it to her tastes,like a Hyacinth Bucket or Martha Stewart.

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on April 09, 2013
at 05:02 PM

It is just a classic case of the straw-man fallacy. She heard about the "Paleo movement" decided not to research it, but to go based on some documents published in the early 90s. And ultimately wrote a book "bunking" myths that no one is propagating. I think the only ulterior motive here is sales, she just cashing in on a popular movement.

She also consistently contradicts her own points -- She says don't do reenactment focus on modern science -- then she says don't do HIIT, several HGs ran for miles and miles -- so which is it?

At the end of the day, if you read through her recommendations, it actually reads very much like the primal blueprint -- eat whole foods, avoid refined foods, move a lot at a slow pace, and focus on modern research -- where have I heard that before?

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on April 09, 2013
at 06:49 PM

People who know me and have seen my insane success following paleo, after years of zero success with other interventions, think it's "silly" and "contrarian attention-seeking". It's a blip.

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on April 08, 2013
at 11:24 PM

Conspiracy??? I bet, honestly. Nip the revolution in the bud before it's gotten too out of hand.

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