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Heart Attack Grill...Again

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 07, 2013 at 12:44 AM

Anyone want to comment: http://www.usatoday.com/story/dispatches/2013/02/12/las-vegas-heart-attack-grill-death/1912493/. I'm sure this will get thrown in our face by our unititiated or uninformed friends and family. It will surely be cited by zealous vegans as proof we're all idiots for our lifestyles. And once again the media can't help themselves with the arterycloggingsaturatedfat mantra. Will we once again have to defend our paleo lifestyles because of this?

EDIT: As an aferthought, can you imagine the statistics (if there were any) of how many people have heart attacks after leaving Mcdonalds, or any restaurant for that matter. This one though makes news. I'm sure there are plenty of people who've had some cardiac event after leaving Subway (or any other "healthy" place you choose) any they think they're eating "right".

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on February 16, 2013
at 06:23 AM

Yes ves. Thank you that was what I was trying to get at. This story makes news despite probably hundreds if not thousands who've died waiting for a bus after walking out of Micky D's over the last 60 years.

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on February 16, 2013
at 06:00 AM

It's the "eat all the meat and fat that you want" meme that people think is paleo.

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on February 16, 2013
at 02:48 AM

that's what i was thinking since heart attack grill is so UNpaleo!that's SAD right there.

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on February 15, 2013
at 07:57 PM

Totally Stephen. It's looking at Churchill and saying smoking is good for longevity.

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on February 15, 2013
at 07:47 PM

Also, I really feel like the fact that this is one guy, ONE GUY who eats at some random place, and died of a heart attack, when heart disease is the number one killer... This is a pure correlation, and it's like I said, one customer, I don't think there is a single restaurant or bar or school or workplace where somebody has never died of a heart attack who frequents that place. This is the epitome of epidemiological imho, because it's not only epidemiological, but also n=1 which is pure rubbish and not deserving of even being published.

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on February 15, 2013
at 07:08 PM

Nothing @ David Moss, but we already know that. Many however do not.

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on February 15, 2013
at 06:49 PM

I wish there were one of those in Atlanta...

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on February 15, 2013
at 06:43 PM

What's the connection between eating 6000 calorie burgers and paleo

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A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on February 15, 2013
at 07:01 PM

This says to me that there is nutrition and health not provided by a diet full of meat and fat and sugar and cheese and refined grains (shocker, right?). When you feed someone this diet, someone who probably has a lot of other areas in their life where they don't treat their body well, it doesn't surprise me they might develop problems. How much vitamin K, magnesium, manganese, potassium, vitamin C, folate, vitamin E, and omega-3's are these guys getting anyway? I bet not much.

Back when the last guy went I thought, oh he's just really fat from all that hyper-palatable, high calorie food and being really fat correlates, casually or not, with being unhealthy. That explains it. Now this guy went and I'm thinking maybe it was the aforementioned missing stuff, as well as maybe too much dietary iron and AGE's and even super high LDL which may in this context may contribute to increased LDL oxidation.

I don't really know any of this for sure (so observational evidence goes), but I think this kind of stuff offers the potential for greater learning once you look deeper than the "saturated fat is an artery clogging demon" mindset.

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on February 15, 2013
at 07:57 PM

Totally Stephen. It's looking at Churchill and saying smoking is good for longevity.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on February 15, 2013
at 07:47 PM

Also, I really feel like the fact that this is one guy, ONE GUY who eats at some random place, and died of a heart attack, when heart disease is the number one killer... This is a pure correlation, and it's like I said, one customer, I don't think there is a single restaurant or bar or school or workplace where somebody has never died of a heart attack who frequents that place. This is the epitome of epidemiological imho, because it's not only epidemiological, but also n=1 which is pure rubbish and not deserving of even being published.

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on February 15, 2013
at 06:46 PM

That looks so delicious...

Seriously though, they have 1 customer who dies of a heart attack, last time I checked heart disease was the number one killer, it only makes since that one of their customers would die of a heart attack.

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on February 15, 2013
at 06:56 PM

No...if anything this will defend Paleo for us

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on February 16, 2013
at 02:48 AM

that's what i was thinking since heart attack grill is so UNpaleo!that's SAD right there.

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on February 16, 2013
at 10:37 AM

A fast food restaurant serves beef in hamburgers>>>>>>so meat is bad for you. That makes perfect sense if you ignore all the other things fast food restaurants serve, how the food is prepared, and what a burger is served with/on. Also disregards the lifestyle, activity level, and over all diet of the average/typical person that would tend to frequent a fast food restaurant often. I'll have a triple bacon burger with extra cheese, extra large bean chili and cheese fry, and a diet coke...

New study people that drink diet coke gain weight......wait what....?

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on February 16, 2013
at 04:01 AM

It is always the last burger that does all the harm. Forget all the stuff that came before this last meal.

Plus I'm also not seeing the link to paleo.

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on February 16, 2013
at 06:23 AM

Yes ves. Thank you that was what I was trying to get at. This story makes news despite probably hundreds if not thousands who've died waiting for a bus after walking out of Micky D's over the last 60 years.

4debe57f81d507bcb844f10b2ef38a83

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on February 16, 2013
at 06:00 AM

It's the "eat all the meat and fat that you want" meme that people think is paleo.

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on February 16, 2013
at 01:58 AM

Reads more like an article supporting paleo than against. This is what happens when you eat a high trans fat, high vegetable oil, high sugar, highly process, 20 derivatives of corn, god know what is in your meat diet. Not to mention the gallons of soda these people were most likely drinking. The one guy who died was almost 600 pounds! To be fair though, from a scientific stand point, we cannot gather much from this as this was obviously not a controlled study.

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