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Your only choices are CAFO meats. What do you choose?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 26, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Thankfully I don't have to make this sort of decision, but I know many people whose resources for meat are limited to the local Walmart. In this particular store, the options are limited to beef, pork, chicken, turkey, and fish. All CAFO, and no organ meats or bones. If you were in this situation, which would you prefer and why? I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this!

81181cab058dd652659e4bb2e6f25843

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on October 24, 2012
at 09:08 PM

I'd appreciate a reason why this is downvoted.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on October 24, 2012
at 05:36 PM

Eating larger vegetables makes you larger? That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.

81181cab058dd652659e4bb2e6f25843

(528)

on September 28, 2012
at 05:19 PM

Mackerel (king mackerel especially) can be very high in mercury so watch out for that. About that GMO study, could it be that the GM corn simple grew bigger since it had to pests to battle with? In the same vein eating the same amount of larger ears of corn would make you consume more calories and all else equal you'll gain weight. When the GM fed fish are then eaten the animal that eats them gets bigger because they are consuming larger fish that got larger from eating larger corn. The only negative measure was 'less able to digest protien' but they are fish, what does that mean if anything?

81181cab058dd652659e4bb2e6f25843

(528)

on September 28, 2012
at 02:04 PM

You didn't in any way shape or form answer the question.

2ca37952cb05fee4fa1d228108d499e0

on September 28, 2012
at 02:06 AM

Good point, Michelle - chickens are def. not vegetarians! But it is a fairly inexpensive step in the right direction.

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

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on September 27, 2012
at 08:52 PM

Good point. I'd be wondering about CAFO liver myself. I've actually heard some anecdotal points about CAFO offal tasting off compared to grass-fed, but as far as nutritional makeup and toxic load goes, I hadn't heard much specifically.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on September 27, 2012
at 07:36 PM

I have, but TBH I buy a half cow at a time that comes with tons of liver....so I don't do the CAFO bit all that often. Liver will have the same drawbacks in terms of toxicity as any other part of a CAFO animal. The point I try to make is that it will actually not have any MORE drawbacks just because it happens to be the liver. So in terms of toxic load your best off getting more nutrients out of the deal. There is a post on these particular points at MDA....ah here it is http://www.marksdailyapple.com/does-the-liver-store-toxins/#axzz1gjYLpVTd

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on September 27, 2012
at 06:53 PM

do you eat cafo liver? i'm curious the difference between grass fed and cafo. i love grass fed liver but i've been hesitant to try cafo liver. is there any reason one would want to avoid the liver of a cafo cow? as you said it has the same makeup as grass fed nutrient wise so is there anything else that happening through this style of raising a cow to tarnish the livers nutritional worth?

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

(2029)

on September 27, 2012
at 05:10 AM

For a while I frequently bought Harvestland chicken for those reasons, and only when they were on sale (which was often). But the "vegetarian fed" thing has deterred me since, in addition to not eating chicken as much.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on September 27, 2012
at 01:13 AM

And there are quite frequent coupons for the freezer sections.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on September 27, 2012
at 12:42 AM

If you don't mind paying an arm and two legs...

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on September 26, 2012
at 11:14 PM

good question..

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on September 26, 2012
at 11:07 PM

WalMart has liver so I'm going to over rule your no offal rule ;)......Liver. The toxic load is no more (or barely more) than what is found in other areas of the animal, but with a substantially larger dose of beneficial nutrients.

If not that then canned sardines, bivalves, and shrimp. Really after that I'm buying all the regular stuff and not worrying about it.

Medium avatar

(2338)

on September 27, 2012
at 06:53 PM

do you eat cafo liver? i'm curious the difference between grass fed and cafo. i love grass fed liver but i've been hesitant to try cafo liver. is there any reason one would want to avoid the liver of a cafo cow? as you said it has the same makeup as grass fed nutrient wise so is there anything else that happening through this style of raising a cow to tarnish the livers nutritional worth?

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

(2029)

on September 27, 2012
at 08:52 PM

Good point. I'd be wondering about CAFO liver myself. I've actually heard some anecdotal points about CAFO offal tasting off compared to grass-fed, but as far as nutritional makeup and toxic load goes, I hadn't heard much specifically.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on September 27, 2012
at 07:36 PM

I have, but TBH I buy a half cow at a time that comes with tons of liver....so I don't do the CAFO bit all that often. Liver will have the same drawbacks in terms of toxicity as any other part of a CAFO animal. The point I try to make is that it will actually not have any MORE drawbacks just because it happens to be the liver. So in terms of toxic load your best off getting more nutrients out of the deal. There is a post on these particular points at MDA....ah here it is http://www.marksdailyapple.com/does-the-liver-store-toxins/#axzz1gjYLpVTd

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on September 26, 2012
at 09:54 PM

Fish. You're likely to find at least some wild-caught options at Walmart, farmed options aren't terrible either.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on September 27, 2012
at 01:13 AM

And there are quite frequent coupons for the freezer sections.

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B04787f664abf9bebc28f71bf7825a3c

on September 27, 2012
at 03:02 AM

Anything low in fat, since it's said that most of the baddies remain in the fat. Drain off excess fat and/or simply cook in good fats and you're good to go!

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2ca37952cb05fee4fa1d228108d499e0

on September 27, 2012
at 01:08 AM

Walmart carries HarvestLand Chicken, which is cage and antibiotic free and minimally processd. One of the THREE near me (SMH) carries a grass fed lean ground beef.

That said, when money's an issue sometimes the price tag is out of range. In that case, I would look for lean cuts of meat. Also meats marked Halal or minimally processed as they are of higher quality and still usually affordable.

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

(2029)

on September 27, 2012
at 05:10 AM

For a while I frequently bought Harvestland chicken for those reasons, and only when they were on sale (which was often). But the "vegetarian fed" thing has deterred me since, in addition to not eating chicken as much.

2ca37952cb05fee4fa1d228108d499e0

on September 28, 2012
at 02:06 AM

Good point, Michelle - chickens are def. not vegetarians! But it is a fairly inexpensive step in the right direction.

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on September 27, 2012
at 12:33 AM

I think the best bet is to diversify. Get it all, prepare it slow and lots of veggies cook with good O3 fats and do your best.

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E17fe88b98575c183241fba50ae42b93

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on September 26, 2012
at 10:54 PM

I've seen (and bought) chicken livers at Walmart. As far as muscle meat, when I have to go CAFO I usually go for lean beef, then cook in lots of butter or coconut oil. I do still occasionally get chicken thighs, which I know isn't ideal...but it's tasty, and sometimes I just don't care!

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1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

on September 28, 2012
at 08:38 AM

I would eat mostly seafood. Greenlip mussels are really cheap, sardines and wild salmon in a can are cheap, good eggs are cheap compared to meat, and small oily fish like mackerel are usually really inexpensive. You can also get those little frozen packs of seafood that are usually marketed for "paella" and just fry them up with some butter and veggies. As evidenced by THIS study even if you avoid all other GMO's, just eating animals who were eating GMO's still makes rats fatter. That's enough for me to stay away.

81181cab058dd652659e4bb2e6f25843

(528)

on September 28, 2012
at 05:19 PM

Mackerel (king mackerel especially) can be very high in mercury so watch out for that. About that GMO study, could it be that the GM corn simple grew bigger since it had to pests to battle with? In the same vein eating the same amount of larger ears of corn would make you consume more calories and all else equal you'll gain weight. When the GM fed fish are then eaten the animal that eats them gets bigger because they are consuming larger fish that got larger from eating larger corn. The only negative measure was 'less able to digest protien' but they are fish, what does that mean if anything?

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on October 24, 2012
at 05:36 PM

Eating larger vegetables makes you larger? That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.

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F9638b939a6f85d67f60065677193cad

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on September 27, 2012
at 10:06 PM

I eat CAFO meat all the time, including liver.

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06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on September 26, 2012
at 11:52 PM

U.S. Wellness Meats. It doesn't get much better than having a bacon delivery waiting on your doorstep.

Matt
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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on September 27, 2012
at 12:42 AM

If you don't mind paying an arm and two legs...

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81181cab058dd652659e4bb2e6f25843

(528)

on September 28, 2012
at 02:54 AM

flank steak, skirt steak, top round London broil, filet.... any of the lean cuts should be fine. personally flank steak marinated in equal parts soy sauce (shut up) and balsamic vinegar, cooked rare is a delight.

81181cab058dd652659e4bb2e6f25843

(528)

on October 24, 2012
at 09:08 PM

I'd appreciate a reason why this is downvoted.

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Ef26f888ed248de197c37a4cb04ef4a7

on September 28, 2012
at 08:32 AM

I would be vegetarian. If it was just a price issue I would buy a small amount of grass fed beef every few weeks or something. You don't really need that much meat, I go meat free for several days without even realizing it sometimes, there's plenty of other foods. It's kind of weird people are so against the modern food supply yet continue to support the worst offender.

81181cab058dd652659e4bb2e6f25843

(528)

on September 28, 2012
at 02:04 PM

You didn't in any way shape or form answer the question.

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