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Why do we need to eat meat?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created March 09, 2013 at 6:16 PM

hey guys!

so i'm a student on a low budget and i was just wondering what is in the meat we eat that we can't get from any other food? is it the protein (and is there no other way) or maybe something i haven't thought of? sometimes all i eat is veggies and some nuts, and at the moment, I'm taking a special kind of antibiotics (I have ibs/ibd/crohn's, a specialist on that has given me those antibiotics and these won't kill the 'good bacteria') and they're giving me nausea since days, so I'm not eating at all because I simply can't.

what do you think on this? and: Did the people from the paleo-times eat that much meat? Like, everyday or just occasionally? I feel most comfortable when eating 90% veggies, eggs and nuts and 10% meat.

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on March 11, 2013
at 07:56 PM

It's hard for vegetarians and nearly impossible for vegans to get enough vitamin B. I think this is why they get tired and run down after a few years on the diet. There was an interesting study showin that rates of heart disease were higher among vegetarians in India, the doctors thought because of vitamin B deficiency.

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on March 11, 2013
at 06:28 PM

thank you, thats great! so this means that meat does actually have more nutrients than plants? which concentrated nutrients which are impossible to get from other sources do you mean?

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on March 10, 2013
at 12:44 AM

i'm not sure what you mean about crohn's patients. as for protein, that's just what the body does. the stomach creates enzymes for digestion.

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on March 09, 2013
at 11:58 PM

lol unclelonghair.

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on March 09, 2013
at 09:29 PM

"Yeah, I mostly follow a spite-based ancestral diet...."

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on March 09, 2013
at 09:29 PM

I'd think their stress levels were high enough already :p

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thats what I also thought, but he told me that kids with Crohn's also get the same thing; I guess he really does know what he talks about since he also is pro-paleo. Probiotics have never ever helped me and I tried alot; I don't think they would colonize a place that has bad conditions for them - stop taking probiotics and you will feel bad soon. why does protein gets digested in the stomach?

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on March 10, 2013
at 05:30 PM

Ok a slightly less smart-ass answer...

Animals are basically nutrient aggregators. There are nutrients in grass, but we can't utilize them, but if a cow or other grass-fed animal eats the grass and we eat the animal, we get great nutrients. We can't live on plankton and algae, but we can eat oysters. These are great sources of concentrated nutrients which are impossible to get from other sources.

Plants are also nutrient aggregators, since we can't derive nutrition from sunlight and soil but we can get nutrition from the plants or their fruits. But they aren't as efficient and we can't derive the full range of nutrients that we need (IOW we didn't evolve to get the full range of nutrients that we need) solely from plants.

When vegetarians and vegans finally get sick and tired of being sick and tired all the time and finally start to change their diet (like this lady), what they usually crave first is nutrient-dense animal-based foods like eggs, broth, and meat. They don't crave oranges, spinach and bagels, or supposed super-foods like spirulina and almonds which, while nutritious, don't have anywhere the nutrient density or satiety as simple animal foods.

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on March 11, 2013
at 06:28 PM

thank you, thats great! so this means that meat does actually have more nutrients than plants? which concentrated nutrients which are impossible to get from other sources do you mean?

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on March 11, 2013
at 07:56 PM

It's hard for vegetarians and nearly impossible for vegans to get enough vitamin B. I think this is why they get tired and run down after a few years on the diet. There was an interesting study showin that rates of heart disease were higher among vegetarians in India, the doctors thought because of vitamin B deficiency.

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on March 09, 2013
at 09:23 PM

To piss off the vegetarians?

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on March 09, 2013
at 09:29 PM

I'd think their stress levels were high enough already :p

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on March 09, 2013
at 09:29 PM

"Yeah, I mostly follow a spite-based ancestral diet...."

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on March 09, 2013
at 11:58 PM

lol unclelonghair.

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on March 09, 2013
at 07:39 PM

Chris Kresser a couple days ago: Red Meat: It Does a Body Good!

  • Meat in general: B Vitamins, Vitamin D, Iron, and other minerals
  • Red meat over white meat: fatty acids (and higher levels of the above)

"Don't go nuts on nuts" gets repeated a lot here, mainly because of the high levels of Omega-6 fats

As to the quantity of meat, Perfect Health Diet recommends around 1/2 pound per day for general health and longevity (up to a pound a day for athletes and very active people)

Regarding IBS, Crohn's, etc. ??? take a look at both the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (developed specifically for people suffering from gut health issues) and the GAPS Diet (healing the body and mind by healing the gut).

Prescription antibiotics tend to be a little over-zealous in their application [edit: "indiscriminate" was the word I couldn't remember earlier] which is why you have to pay close attention to rebuilding your gut's flora and fauna after it's been strafe-bombed by antibiotics. Paleohackers have good luck with Prescript Assist and VSL #3 for re-population. Look to fermented foods (keffir, kombucha, kimchi, raw sauerkraut, etc.) for maintenance. And look to lowish carb foods for healing (meat and vegetables feed your good biota, sugars feed the bad guys (including cancers)).

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on March 10, 2013
at 06:45 PM

One way to stretch your meat budget is to always buy the best quality meat you can (bone in) and make broth out of the remnants. You can also throw other bones into the mix. I ask at the meat counter of my natural food store to get marrow bones, knuckle bones, etc, for beef broth. For chicken broth, I get feet and necks whenever they are available and throw in with other chicken bones. These extra parts are usually very cheap.

Many cultures have made use of broth to stretch the nutritional value of the meat they have. Asian cultures are very good at this. Here is one interesting article:

http://www.westonaprice.org/food-features/broth-is-beautiful

You will know you have good broth if it becomes almost solid gelatin when cooled.

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on March 10, 2013
at 01:35 AM

Unfortunately, most peoples 'comfort levels' have more to do with prior indoctrination than with truth. It is fiendishly difficult to establish ANY thing about the lives of large animals based on a sample size of ONE.

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on March 09, 2013
at 06:33 PM

i've never heard of an antibiotic preserving good bacteria. it doesn't exist unless it's some new magic antibiotic. antibiotic = anti life. probiotic = pro life.

it think for digestive diseases, eating protein is super important since it digests in the stomach and doesn't get to the colon unchanged like some carbs do. it's also so hard to absorb all the nutrients when you do have a digestive problem so eating more is better than eating less.

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on March 10, 2013
at 12:44 AM

i'm not sure what you mean about crohn's patients. as for protein, that's just what the body does. the stomach creates enzymes for digestion.

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on March 09, 2013
at 08:21 PM

thats what I also thought, but he told me that kids with Crohn's also get the same thing; I guess he really does know what he talks about since he also is pro-paleo. Probiotics have never ever helped me and I tried alot; I don't think they would colonize a place that has bad conditions for them - stop taking probiotics and you will feel bad soon. why does protein gets digested in the stomach?

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