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What types/cuts or conventionally grown meat are most and least safe?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 13, 2012 at 3:52 AM

I understand that organic local meat is ideal, but if you had to eat conventionally grown, what would you choose? Poultry vs ruminants vs pork, fatty cuts vs lean, etc... I know not to eat conventional liver, but what about muscle organs like heart and tongue?

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on November 13, 2012
at 05:02 PM

Grass-fed animals are going to store toxins in their fat as well. It's not like CAFO animals are fed toxins.

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on November 13, 2012
at 04:14 PM

Joe, it's nice to see you. I was disappointed to lose contact, because I always enjoyed your rationality. Drop me a note if you ever wish.

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on November 13, 2012
at 02:52 PM

Isn't the "avoid fatty conventional meat " because of how fat stores toxins?

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on November 13, 2012
at 05:30 AM

I've been a carnivore for just over 3 years. Used to have a lot of metabolic problems (morbid obesity, high triglycerides, fasting glucose was starting to go, and had fatty liver) so went for a large intervention. Am now down to roughly normal weight (about 5 pounds into the overweight category on BMI charts), and arthritis pain is much much improved, so was able to stop some of my meds. Normal diet is beef, liver, egg yolks, fish eggs, marrow, and I'm trying to add kidney to the mix as well. Wanted to cover the common "sacred foods" in Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Price.

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on November 13, 2012
at 05:18 AM

100% carnivore.. wow.. so you really only eat meat??! curious as to how this came about for yourself and for how long?

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on November 13, 2012
at 04:53 AM

Grain-fed beef is darn good nutrition. I think we tend to forget that sometimes in our quest for an optimal diet. Is grass-fed better? I think so. A lot better? Probably not.

The omega 3/omega 6 ratio is not a big deal, as beef as a very low PUFA count regardless of feed. If you want to fix the ratios, 1 fish oil capsule a day will do it (really). That keeps overall PUFA load low as well.

So, I really wouldn't sweat fatty vs. lean cuts.

In terms of nutrition, I dove into that a few years ago, but concluded that bovine science wasn't very good--or at least the ones I looked at didn't seem amenable to providing conclusions. For full disclosure, I do eat grass-fed beef, but I'm a 100% carnivore, so am a bit more worried about the quality of my beef, since it's most of what I ingest.

Chicken and pork are strongly affected by feed, and you can wind up with a much higher PUFA load than is healthy. I'd steer clear.

My understanding is that lamb grown in Australia is raised on grass, but have not tracked down sources on that. But that could be another option.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on November 13, 2012
at 04:14 PM

Joe, it's nice to see you. I was disappointed to lose contact, because I always enjoyed your rationality. Drop me a note if you ever wish.

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on November 13, 2012
at 05:18 AM

100% carnivore.. wow.. so you really only eat meat??! curious as to how this came about for yourself and for how long?

8d6390b3b8991a9cb653a3d13c1cbf6a

(543)

on November 13, 2012
at 05:30 AM

I've been a carnivore for just over 3 years. Used to have a lot of metabolic problems (morbid obesity, high triglycerides, fasting glucose was starting to go, and had fatty liver) so went for a large intervention. Am now down to roughly normal weight (about 5 pounds into the overweight category on BMI charts), and arthritis pain is much much improved, so was able to stop some of my meds. Normal diet is beef, liver, egg yolks, fish eggs, marrow, and I'm trying to add kidney to the mix as well. Wanted to cover the common "sacred foods" in Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Price.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on November 13, 2012
at 04:17 AM

Avoid poultry (too many antibiotics). Fatty cuts are fine (fat does not really change that much with diet, despite what paleo folks like to think). Avoid ground meat (more likely contaminated), choose whole cuts instead.

What's wrong with conventional liver, if I might ask.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on November 13, 2012
at 05:02 PM

Grass-fed animals are going to store toxins in their fat as well. It's not like CAFO animals are fed toxins.

C3bc92e6b5eba45dc55f43ac3c70cc25

on November 13, 2012
at 02:52 PM

Isn't the "avoid fatty conventional meat " because of how fat stores toxins?

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