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What is the most "science heavy" book on grain, soy, free high meat diet

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Created September 08, 2011 at 9:29 PM

I'm wondering what the best science books on "paleo" are. I liked Paleo Solution but wished it went into much more detail about the science of why grain is bad, soy is bad, and why meat is good.

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on September 10, 2011
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It's been a couple of years since I read it, Noah, but you may be right that it's only about simple carbs.

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WAPF has a lot of good stuff going on, but I specifically need a book I can lend out (along with my various other books)

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I'm not bashing Robb Wolf's book, I've actually purchased numerous copies of it for people.

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on September 10, 2011
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I'm looking forward to reading that one.

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Does GCBC really go into the grains and soy issues, or is it like WWGF and basically only deal with the dangers of excessive simple carbs?

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on September 09, 2011
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BTW, the new version of PBPM is better-referenced.

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For the record, Gedgaudas doesn't advocate high meat, either. It's the fat that should be high. Low carb, *moderate* protein, high fat.

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Just curious, what does "science heavy" mean to you?

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Although a good book, it's generally not "science heavy" in my terms.

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Deep Nutrition is a step up from Primal Body, Primal Mind, but I doubt Mat Lalonde would be happy with either ;)

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I agree, I loan my copy of the Paleo Solution to people who want to understand why grains and legumes are bad! And yes The Perfect Health Diet is extremely "sciency!"

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I read Primal Body, Primal Mind, thoroughly, and enjoyed it, but Gedgaudas makes quite a few claims that are backed more by her personal experience than hard science. I've heard good things about Deep Nutrition: Why Your Genes Need Traditional Food, and it is purportedly well researched, but haven't read it so can't say from personal experience.

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on September 08, 2011
at 09:42 PM

I thought Primal Body, Primal Mind by Nora Gedgaudas gave awesome explanations on all of that... I wouldn't really consider it "science heavy," but the scientific information in it is still really valuable.

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on September 09, 2011
at 12:29 PM

BTW, the new version of PBPM is better-referenced.

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on September 08, 2011
at 09:52 PM

I read Primal Body, Primal Mind, thoroughly, and enjoyed it, but Gedgaudas makes quite a few claims that are backed more by her personal experience than hard science. I've heard good things about Deep Nutrition: Why Your Genes Need Traditional Food, and it is purportedly well researched, but haven't read it so can't say from personal experience.

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on September 08, 2011
at 11:25 PM

Deep Nutrition is a step up from Primal Body, Primal Mind, but I doubt Mat Lalonde would be happy with either ;)

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on September 09, 2011
at 10:31 AM

For the record, Gedgaudas doesn't advocate high meat, either. It's the fat that should be high. Low carb, *moderate* protein, high fat.

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on September 09, 2011
at 01:01 AM

Last year I read Life Without Bread by Wolfgang Lutz, M.D. He died Sept 2010 at age 98. His personal research went back 40 years. It was life changing for me as I was dancing back and forth on the idea and his book clinched it for me.

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on September 08, 2011
at 10:28 PM

Food and Western Disease: Health and nutrition from an evolutionary perspective by Staffan Lindeberg is the most scientific book out there. However, it's a science book, not a diet book and it costs $85.

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on September 09, 2011
at 05:26 PM

The Perfect Health Diet by Paul and Shou-Ching Jaminet.

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on September 09, 2011
at 10:36 AM

From what I've read, I'd say Gary Taubes Good Calories, Bad Calories, because it's a review of research over the past 100 years and references a lot. I think you're going to have to take most books that are current as a starting point, though, and trace out the references from there.

(I also read Paleo Solution and Deep Nutrition earlier this summer and am slogging through Primal Body, Primal Mind. I'd agree that Primal Body, Primal Mind is more "science-y" than Paleo Solution but how much science you're looking for is really a matter of personal preference. Melissa from Hunt Gather Love is an actual scientist, while I'm an English teacher. What seems "science-y" to me probably doesn't to her! And, for what it's worth, Deep Nutrition left a lot of unanswered questions for me. Some of the science was really strong, but other parts I was left with questions about.)

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on September 10, 2011
at 12:39 PM

It's been a couple of years since I read it, Noah, but you may be right that it's only about simple carbs.

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on September 10, 2011
at 02:30 AM

Does GCBC really go into the grains and soy issues, or is it like WWGF and basically only deal with the dangers of excessive simple carbs?

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on September 09, 2011
at 03:10 PM

I think Wheat Belly by William Davis gives a good, scientific explanation of why wheat is so bad.

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on September 10, 2011
at 02:31 AM

I'm looking forward to reading that one.

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on September 09, 2011
at 02:38 AM

WAPF doesn't care much for soy. Plenty of science-y articles over at their site: http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert

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on September 10, 2011
at 02:32 AM

WAPF has a lot of good stuff going on, but I specifically need a book I can lend out (along with my various other books)

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on September 08, 2011
at 10:13 PM

The Paleo Solution seemed pretty science heavy to me. I enjoyed it.

I also heard that The Perfect Health Diet is very sciency.

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on September 08, 2011
at 10:18 PM

I agree, I loan my copy of the Paleo Solution to people who want to understand why grains and legumes are bad! And yes The Perfect Health Diet is extremely "sciency!"

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on September 09, 2011
at 12:26 AM

Although a good book, it's generally not "science heavy" in my terms.

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on September 10, 2011
at 02:31 AM

I'm not bashing Robb Wolf's book, I've actually purchased numerous copies of it for people.

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