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Meat and Cancer

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 22, 2013 at 2:24 PM

I have a question regarding an article that I recently read which was release by the Johns Hopkins Hospital. Although many of the recommendations coincide with the Paleo views, one important one does not. That one being red meat. I know the red meat question has been debated through this forum.. but none really talk about the acidity.

the link:http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cancerupdate.asp#wFmTMAHxQ3xZgaBA.01

In the CANCER CELL FEED ON section you can read "Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A meat-based diet is acidic and it is best to eat fish, and a little chicken rather than beef or pork. Meat also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones and parasites, which are all harmful, especially to people with cancer."

In regards to acidity, is this TRUE? And how can someone following the paleo lifestyle balance the acidity out?

Also another quick question, when nutritionists and doctors recommend not eating red meat, are they talking about mass produced red meat or red meat in general?

thank in advance.

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on February 22, 2013
at 07:37 PM

The real John Hopkins hospital has said, in response to this article: "there is no evidence that certain foods alter the environment of an existing cancer, at the cellular level, and cause it to either die or grow".

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on February 22, 2013
at 03:26 PM

@Roth mainly from the different lists/charts I've seen on this topic (of which I still don't really buy into). There are **plenty** of alkaline vegetables.

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on February 22, 2013
at 03:20 PM

Why do you believe that radishes, asparagus, kale, etc. are alkaline?

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

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on February 22, 2013
at 03:19 PM

How is watermelon metabolized into "alkaline" ?

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on February 22, 2013
at 02:37 PM

You do know what Snopes.com is, don't you?

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on February 22, 2013
at 02:37 PM

1) In regards to acidity, is this TRUE? And how can someone following the paleo lifestyle balance the acidity out?

I think the idea of an acidic v. alkaline diet is somewhat of a farce, but yes: digested meat gives you a plethora of amino acids, pushing the body towards an acidic environment. But you know what else does? Bread, wheat, cheese, beer, and plenty of other SAD foods that you are now (hopefully!) avoiding. If this is actually a concern for you, then you simply need to balance out the acidic diet with alkaline forming foods: radishes, asparagus, sprouts, cucumber, kale, jicama, spinach, broccoli, etc. What's that you say? You already eat that stuff? Perfect!

Here's a quick reference that seems pretty good (insofar as it's graphic and clear): http://www.acidalkalinediet.com/Alkaline-Foods-Chart.htm

2) when nutritionists and doctors recommend not eating red meat, are they talking about mass produced red meat or red meat in general?

Honestly, I don't think that they even know. I'll tell you what I avoid: all highly processed meat, including cold cuts and sketchy packaged sausages. Of the red meat I do eat, I keep it varied -- cow, bison, lamb, goat -- and I keep it high quality -- while I can get bison at the supermarket, and even grass fed cow sometimes, I tend to buy local at farmer's markets.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on February 22, 2013
at 03:26 PM

@Roth mainly from the different lists/charts I've seen on this topic (of which I still don't really buy into). There are **plenty** of alkaline vegetables.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

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on February 22, 2013
at 03:20 PM

Why do you believe that radishes, asparagus, kale, etc. are alkaline?

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on February 22, 2013
at 02:57 PM

The body tightly regulates the acid/alkaline balance in the blood. A high acid load diet may result in your urine being more acidic, but that doesn't mean that your body is more acidic.

See the comments from this previous PH thread. Lots of good links there: http://paleohacks.com/questions/127802/acid-alkaline-balance-in-paleo-diets#axzz2LMZYRbtq

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on February 22, 2013
at 02:55 PM

Cancer cells themselves are acidic, it's not that an acid environment encourages cancer growth.

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on February 22, 2013
at 05:08 PM

I would love to see what PH poster "miked" would have to say. IIRC, he is a cancer survivor and chemist and seems to have a very good grasp of many of these kinds of physiological and chemical aspects of these kinds of questions/discussions.

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on February 22, 2013
at 02:43 PM

It's about balance. Watermelon for example is metabolized so akaline that it offsets quite an intake of red meats. If the other acid forming foods like alcohol, caffeine, legumes, and refined sugars and carbs aren't a big part of your diet then that shouldn't be too hard.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on February 22, 2013
at 03:19 PM

How is watermelon metabolized into "alkaline" ?

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