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If meat isn't available what's the next best option to consider for meal planning?

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Created August 01, 2011 at 3:43 AM

Most of the time, I have the raw materials I need to prepare delicious paleo meals. But sometimes, you've had a long day, or week, and your fridge has only fresh veggies. The last bit of chicken was cooked, the bag of frozen shrimp got used up for lunch, and the one package of hot dogs you have sitting in there just doesn't really float your boat in that moment. What's a paleo to do? If I want to have a filling meal, what's the hierarchy of secondary options to animal protein that will most satisfy the paleo setup?

Since I do include dairy, I have thought that perhaps that's the best option, but sometimes there's not even cheese in the fridge, and I'm curious what other more strict paleo people do. Considering the original paleo humans had to hunt their meat down, I imagine there were numerous times where that protein source wasn't available. In the meanwhile, would they just eat greens and other vegetables, munch on lots of nuts and seeds, or just say "Oh well, looks like I'm fasting for a few days until I can find some animal to kill!"?

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on August 02, 2011
at 08:38 AM

Then i ofcourse add some knuckle bones and marrow bones. Now i consider using oxtails for stocks a terrible waste. Here its very hard to find good oxtail. A large cow only has about 2kgs. I cook the stock in Kuhn Rikon pressure cooker for two and half hours, makes better stock than any traditional method i have used before, and using less energy. The high heat of cooker really rips apart any flavor from the meat and bones. And less flavor are lost due to less evaparation. I really like juicy gelatinous meat. Same like pork trotters. etc

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on August 02, 2011
at 08:33 AM

I used to make stock from oxtails, its great meat for that. But i think its just about the best meat for long braises. Anotherone is beef cheeks. What makes oxtail unique is that it has so much gelatin, and fat. Its like short ribs but better. It also has about the beefiest flavor there is. Now i do my stock from beef tendons (they are mostly gelatin, so the stock will be rich and thick) ground meat (ground meat is best for stock due to law of diffusion). Smaller pieces, better and faster extraction of flavor. I also and all my meat trimmings to the pot, and some ground beef heart.

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on August 02, 2011
at 08:21 AM

Fast or go shopping.. ;)

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on August 01, 2011
at 06:05 PM

I bought some oxtails to make broth with, and threw them out after. How do you eat them? It looks so nasty. Is it mostly fatty meat? It looked so strange, I wasn't sure how to eat them. Thanks!

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on August 01, 2011
at 01:34 PM

There are acceptable hot dogs available that aren't full of chemicals. Here's one http://www.applegatefarms.com/products/organic_hot_dog.aspx - Organic Grass-Fed Beef, Water, Contains Less Than 2% Of The Following: Sea Salt, Organic Spices, Organic Garlic Powder, Organic Paprika, Celery Powder, Organic Onion Powder, Lactic Acid Starter Culture (Not From Milk)

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on August 01, 2011
at 09:21 AM

I live in western finland, city of Pori. We have small market square where i buy my fish. Only about 1km from my house. The fish in Inari is much better. The fish and berries and everything is so clean of pollution northern finland. No factories there. If you come from a large metropolitan city to Lapland, its amazing how different the fresh air feels! The canned cod liver i buy is danish, and some other brand that is from norway.

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on August 01, 2011
at 07:37 AM

Do you live in the south or in the north of finnland? We got once in inari fresh fish from the fisherman. This was great. i not remeber the name. a friend made fish leather out of one skin. this is very fancy.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 01, 2011
at 07:36 AM

what is the brand of your cod liver? in germany we have larsen (danish) and rügenfish (german) rügenfish taste like metal and had dioxin in the past. Larsen is fished around island and taste good. booth is in own oil and juice. Also Rügenfish is fished in the barentsea, the sea which is known through nuclear pollution by the russians.

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on August 01, 2011
at 04:06 AM

if you are hungry and there is real food in your kitchen, eat it.

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on August 01, 2011
at 04:01 AM

Yes, you're right. So, if no meat, fish, poultry, or eggs are available, what is the next best thing to fill up on?

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at 03:49 AM

You should probably clarify whether eggs count or not ....

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Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on August 01, 2011
at 04:18 AM

At least a few nights a week I find myself making a whole plate of potatoes with some greens, broccoli, spices and a lotof fat. If you have enough of those you can get about 20g of protein at the meal and it will fill you up. If you're on a lower carb diet and you're asking what you eat when you have no meat you should give up and go try to hunt some hapless neighborhood critter.

edit: not me. Bad!

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on August 01, 2011
at 01:15 PM

taking one day a week off protein sounds perfectly sensible to me. just another kind of fast. see Eat Stop Eat.

autophagy ftw!

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on August 01, 2011
at 04:08 AM

Just a heads up, I am not strict by any means, but, if you don't have any animal type proteins in your fridge then stir-frying up veggies is my favorite thing when I don't have anything better to make. If you have almonds, that tastes pretty good along with the veggies :]. Or I fast.

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on August 01, 2011
at 03:57 AM

Definitely eggs. Cottage cheese is high in protein, too.

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on August 01, 2011
at 08:50 AM

Avocados with lemon juice and/or celery with almond butter. If still hungry, add coconut butter or macadamia nuts.

But I try to stock a couple pounds of 100% grass-fed ground beef or bison in the freezer for those emergency nights . . . .

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44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

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on August 01, 2011
at 06:00 AM

Meat isnt my preferred protein. So i do not usually run out of it. I keep a weeks worth of portions of red wine braised oxtail in freezer. I prefer fresh fish for my daily protein. But its even more hassle to source and keep. So often have to resort to meat. Sometimes i eat canned cod liver, but i dont eat any other canned, fishs, the taste is just little too much like cat food ;)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 01, 2011
at 07:37 AM

Do you live in the south or in the north of finnland? We got once in inari fresh fish from the fisherman. This was great. i not remeber the name. a friend made fish leather out of one skin. this is very fancy.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 01, 2011
at 07:36 AM

what is the brand of your cod liver? in germany we have larsen (danish) and rügenfish (german) rügenfish taste like metal and had dioxin in the past. Larsen is fished around island and taste good. booth is in own oil and juice. Also Rügenfish is fished in the barentsea, the sea which is known through nuclear pollution by the russians.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on August 01, 2011
at 06:05 PM

I bought some oxtails to make broth with, and threw them out after. How do you eat them? It looks so nasty. Is it mostly fatty meat? It looked so strange, I wasn't sure how to eat them. Thanks!

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on August 01, 2011
at 09:21 AM

I live in western finland, city of Pori. We have small market square where i buy my fish. Only about 1km from my house. The fish in Inari is much better. The fish and berries and everything is so clean of pollution northern finland. No factories there. If you come from a large metropolitan city to Lapland, its amazing how different the fresh air feels! The canned cod liver i buy is danish, and some other brand that is from norway.

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on August 02, 2011
at 08:38 AM

Then i ofcourse add some knuckle bones and marrow bones. Now i consider using oxtails for stocks a terrible waste. Here its very hard to find good oxtail. A large cow only has about 2kgs. I cook the stock in Kuhn Rikon pressure cooker for two and half hours, makes better stock than any traditional method i have used before, and using less energy. The high heat of cooker really rips apart any flavor from the meat and bones. And less flavor are lost due to less evaparation. I really like juicy gelatinous meat. Same like pork trotters. etc

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on August 02, 2011
at 08:33 AM

I used to make stock from oxtails, its great meat for that. But i think its just about the best meat for long braises. Anotherone is beef cheeks. What makes oxtail unique is that it has so much gelatin, and fat. Its like short ribs but better. It also has about the beefiest flavor there is. Now i do my stock from beef tendons (they are mostly gelatin, so the stock will be rich and thick) ground meat (ground meat is best for stock due to law of diffusion). Smaller pieces, better and faster extraction of flavor. I also and all my meat trimmings to the pot, and some ground beef heart.

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(20378)

on August 01, 2011
at 02:44 PM

I almost always have eggs for this situation. If i had neither I would run to the store or take meat out of the freezer.

However if I was really pressed I would eat veggies with butter or cheese.

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on August 01, 2011
at 01:18 PM

Hot dogs are totally not Paleo. I would not have those chemical tubes in my fridge.They are toxic. I was surprised to see them on your post.

I would either eat a salad or cook some kind of hash out of what veggies I had. Or I would just skip the meal until I got to the store to hunt down some more meat. Actually I get a half of a grass fed Angus from a friend who raises them. I am never in this predicament.I usually have a stack of sardines in olive oil and a few bags of individually wrapped frozen wild caught salmon in the freezer. stock up when meat is on sale. Save up and buy a small freezer.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on August 01, 2011
at 01:34 PM

There are acceptable hot dogs available that aren't full of chemicals. Here's one http://www.applegatefarms.com/products/organic_hot_dog.aspx - Organic Grass-Fed Beef, Water, Contains Less Than 2% Of The Following: Sea Salt, Organic Spices, Organic Garlic Powder, Organic Paprika, Celery Powder, Organic Onion Powder, Lactic Acid Starter Culture (Not From Milk)

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64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on August 01, 2011
at 06:24 AM

eggs or sardines

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on August 01, 2011
at 05:03 AM

eat meat or go hungry.

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D54290f91bd8c2ff9fdf2f519933bf3e

(1231)

on August 01, 2011
at 04:36 AM

it depends on what my body is hungry for, if i need protein then it would be eggs or some kinda dairy. if im craving a lot of fat i might have a lot of coconut milk in a curry type thing with veggies.

and sometimes times like this result in late night shopping trips.

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on August 01, 2011
at 04:12 AM

That's when I reach for that can of salmon in the back of the pantry. Or I'll just skip the protein part of the meal and eat whatever is in the frige. One night last week I had left-over sweet potato and 1/2 a cantaloupe for dinner.

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on August 01, 2011
at 04:11 AM

eggs and if you're lacto paleo, dairy products.

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