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I wish I could be a vegan... what meat will you guys eat?

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Created November 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM

I used to be a vegan and have been eating paleo for a couple months. Anyway, I have accepted that some meat is necessary for optimal health but I still have a very hard time with how meat is processed in the US. It is made worse because I live in a very rural area and I see trucks of chickens being shipped daily to a plant nearby and if you go anywhere near the plant, the town is covered in feathers. I have no moral issues regarding eating meat that has lived in a forest and killed for meat... that is just the cycle of life. I do have an issue with eating animals that have been raised in a factory instead of a farm though.

Where do you guys find meat that was raised ethically? I do buy grass fed but I am not quite clear on what that ensures. Does that mean that the animals were raised properly or just that they were fed grass, not grain? If I cannot figure this out and find meat that was raised ethically, then I am considering turning back to veganism. I realize that this is not healthy necessarily but it is also not healthy to eat animals that have been locked in a factory all their lives so it seems that we can't win either way. In the rural south, people do not seem concerned with a healthy diet so it is hard to find nearby farmers who care about organic crops/meat. Anyone find solutions to this?

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on November 26, 2012
at 01:17 AM

Look around for a WAPF group if you're having trouble finding it. These guys are way into the raw dairy so they will know where to get it. And good luck! I hope it works out well for you.

35deaf0f101526bb113ea69f79934f2b

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on November 23, 2012
at 02:22 PM

I haven't but have been thinking about trying to find a source! I live in North Carolina, where it is illegal to sell raw dairy for human consumption what we do have a note in the law that raw dairy can be sold for animal consumption, if marked as such. I am going to start looking around to try to find someone who will sell it to me... for animal consumption of course. Thanks for the suggestion... this is something I have been wanting to try

366c23d69eadce094a2b22299c58a424

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on November 21, 2012
at 08:12 PM

Wow, it really is!

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on November 21, 2012
at 04:57 PM

I grew up in the South with a pork processing plant up the road one way, a chicken processing plant up the road the other way, and a cow pasture at the edge of my backyard. It's incredible that I didn't end up a vegan! ;)

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on November 21, 2012
at 04:56 PM

+1 for Portlandia!

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on November 21, 2012
at 04:51 PM

Britt have you tried raw dairy or switching to goat/sheep? Some seem to find they can tolerate either of these much better than pasteurized cow milk products. It might be worth investigating. Or just eat two dozen eggs a week, lol.

35deaf0f101526bb113ea69f79934f2b

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on November 21, 2012
at 03:22 PM

Thanks for the response. I do not do well on dairy. I get really bad allergies/congestion from it. I do eat yogurt daily (because I love it) but I cannot have more than one serving of it daily without severe congestions. Eggs I do love and eat at least a dozen a week of though! I agree that they are cheap and easy to find from good sources!

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on November 21, 2012
at 12:33 AM

That would be the View Master.

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on November 20, 2012
at 11:33 PM

Oh so now you are the view corrector! I need a "Dave," everyone must have a "Dave" otherwise our views will skew into incorrectedness! And God help us if our views should be need of correcting, that is why Dave exists! Praise the Lord for Dave!

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on November 20, 2012
at 08:26 PM

I see no point in correcting the views of someone with the moniker "Poop Master MC".

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on November 20, 2012
at 03:13 PM

lmao....nice reply poopy.

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on November 20, 2012
at 02:36 PM

It isn't easy at first to find good sources, but they are definitely out there. I lived for years in upstate South Carolina, and found plenty of suppliers of grass fed and finished meats, pastured eggs and dairy. The recommendations below for EatWild and LocalHarvest will lead you to sources. Local farmers markets are a great place to meet local small scale producers. Grass fed means that the animals live outside and eat grass on pastures.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on November 20, 2012
at 02:28 PM

EatWild is a great resource. Another that helps in locating CSA's, local markets, farmers markets etc is http://www.localharvest.org/

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on November 20, 2012
at 02:23 PM

I don't think you understand how the modern food system works. #1 - the nice folks at Publix do not actually ever come into contact with the animals at any stage in the animals life.

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on November 20, 2012
at 02:12 PM

Sounds like Springdale AR.

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on November 20, 2012
at 02:08 PM

+1 for not overthinking this too much. Another modern disease.

35deaf0f101526bb113ea69f79934f2b

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on November 20, 2012
at 01:18 PM

this is incredibly helpful, thank you.

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on November 20, 2012
at 01:14 PM

Uhhh... Publix DEFINETELY sells poorly raised conventional meat. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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on November 20, 2012
at 01:02 PM

You can start with http://www.eatwild.com/ and find local farms. Once you find someone you can contact them to find out about their operations. If they have nothing to hide they will welcome your inquiries and even invite you to the farm.

It's also important to know the processor. I'm fortunate to have a GF farm near me that uses a small family-owed processor. I got to know them both an they are always very straight forward when answering my questions. I even got a tour of the farm.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on November 20, 2012
at 02:28 PM

EatWild is a great resource. Another that helps in locating CSA's, local markets, farmers markets etc is http://www.localharvest.org/

35deaf0f101526bb113ea69f79934f2b

(436)

on November 20, 2012
at 01:18 PM

this is incredibly helpful, thank you.

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on November 20, 2012
at 02:03 PM

I mostly eat fish, mollusks and Crustacea. Not all are wild, but they were raised in seawater.

Meats I like are Maple Leaf duck and Cloverdale bacon. I don't visit the farms to inspect like in Portlandia, and depend on the suppliers to deliver meat that won't make me sick.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on November 21, 2012
at 04:56 PM

+1 for Portlandia!

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E95216c62a14d21c371fcbf2fed8469b

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on November 20, 2012
at 01:42 PM

I find ethically raised meat in the forest. It's called venison and in small amounts is quite tasty. Otherwise I'm not a big meat eater and prefer fruits and vegetables.

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366c23d69eadce094a2b22299c58a424

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on November 20, 2012
at 01:41 PM

Eatwild is a great idea, and also possibly check out local farmers markets to see if any carry meat or eggs. I'm in a suburban area that still has a fair amount of farmland, and we're lucky -- there are lots of ethical producers here who really raise the animals outside the old fashioned way, and treat them humanely. Still, it is a fair amount of work to source my meat affordably: I use farmer's markets, health food stores, and buy directly from a few farmers. Health food stores, by the way, can be a good resource: they tend to charge more for meats, but often you can see on the label what farm produced the product, and work from there.

Some of the farmers I buy from are a fair distance away, so it really helps to have a trunk freezer, even a small one -- that way you can buy several months worth of meat at once.

Totally agree about the chickens: once you've been inside a modern chicken house, it will pretty much cure you of the desire to eat chicken.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on November 21, 2012
at 04:57 PM

I grew up in the South with a pork processing plant up the road one way, a chicken processing plant up the road the other way, and a cow pasture at the edge of my backyard. It's incredible that I didn't end up a vegan! ;)

366c23d69eadce094a2b22299c58a424

(2988)

on November 21, 2012
at 08:12 PM

Wow, it really is!

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59fa7cd87fb9d669adf21e5cf3e7ada5

on November 20, 2012
at 01:11 PM

I eat the meat they sell at Publix. Been shopping there for decades, nice folks, they wouldn't mistreat animals.

59fa7cd87fb9d669adf21e5cf3e7ada5

on November 20, 2012
at 11:33 PM

Oh so now you are the view corrector! I need a "Dave," everyone must have a "Dave" otherwise our views will skew into incorrectedness! And God help us if our views should be need of correcting, that is why Dave exists! Praise the Lord for Dave!

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on November 20, 2012
at 08:26 PM

I see no point in correcting the views of someone with the moniker "Poop Master MC".

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on November 20, 2012
at 01:14 PM

Uhhh... Publix DEFINETELY sells poorly raised conventional meat. Sorry to burst your bubble.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on November 20, 2012
at 02:23 PM

I don't think you understand how the modern food system works. #1 - the nice folks at Publix do not actually ever come into contact with the animals at any stage in the animals life.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on November 21, 2012
at 12:33 AM

That would be the View Master.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on November 20, 2012
at 02:08 PM

+1 for not overthinking this too much. Another modern disease.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on November 20, 2012
at 03:13 PM

lmao....nice reply poopy.

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98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

on November 21, 2012
at 12:06 AM

I struggle with the same issue. It looks like you've had some great suggestions and hopefully you'll find some good local resources. I just wanted to point out that you don't have to return to a vegan diet but can lean on dairy and eggs as an animal protein source. I seem to have an easier time finding these products from animals that have been well-cared for. The consensus seems to be that you can do a healthy vegetarian diet but vegan is tough. I am definitely more eggs/fish focused these days and seem to be doing well with it.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on November 21, 2012
at 04:51 PM

Britt have you tried raw dairy or switching to goat/sheep? Some seem to find they can tolerate either of these much better than pasteurized cow milk products. It might be worth investigating. Or just eat two dozen eggs a week, lol.

35deaf0f101526bb113ea69f79934f2b

(436)

on November 21, 2012
at 03:22 PM

Thanks for the response. I do not do well on dairy. I get really bad allergies/congestion from it. I do eat yogurt daily (because I love it) but I cannot have more than one serving of it daily without severe congestions. Eggs I do love and eat at least a dozen a week of though! I agree that they are cheap and easy to find from good sources!

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on November 26, 2012
at 01:17 AM

Look around for a WAPF group if you're having trouble finding it. These guys are way into the raw dairy so they will know where to get it. And good luck! I hope it works out well for you.

35deaf0f101526bb113ea69f79934f2b

(436)

on November 23, 2012
at 02:22 PM

I haven't but have been thinking about trying to find a source! I live in North Carolina, where it is illegal to sell raw dairy for human consumption what we do have a note in the law that raw dairy can be sold for animal consumption, if marked as such. I am going to start looking around to try to find someone who will sell it to me... for animal consumption of course. Thanks for the suggestion... this is something I have been wanting to try

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on November 20, 2012
at 02:42 PM

I agree with checking out eatwild. Grassfed does not mean humanely raised. The only way to know for sure is to get to know a farmer. The group we have a CSA with also sells chickens. A nearby farm sells cows, pigs, and lamb.

To be honest. While I wish I bought from the farm more, most of my meat comes from the grocery. I get organic -- try for grassfed but that is not always available.

Do your best, don't stress the rest.

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on November 20, 2012
at 07:18 PM

I would say go and see the farm that your meat comes from, ideally it should look something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxTfQpv8xGA

I was fortunate to find this farm close to where I live and try to buy most of my meat there. I'm proud of where I buy my meat and the fact that I know the farmers by name, I will never go back to buying from a supermarket. I ate a vegan diet for a little while in part for the reasons you mention so I understand your apprehension, the best we can do is support a farming system that honors and respects nature. I hope this helps and good luck.

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