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How much meat is too much meat?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 27, 2013 at 11:01 PM

I've never been anything close to a vegetarian, which is why I was attracted to the philosophies of Paleo in the first place. I cut out grains and refined sugars about a month ago, and have noticed lots of improvements with my mood and energy level. But today, for the first time, I was just like "Blehhh!" when I was eating my lunch (juicy pot roast atop a huge pile of spinach). I was picking through the meat just to find the spinach. Tonight, the idea of nothing but oranges and bananas sounds really appealing.

Do any of you ever feel the need for a meatless day? If so, where do you get your proteins? Almond butter?

Maybe incorporating more raw veggies would help out with the meat aversion?

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on February 28, 2013
at 03:59 AM

I've tried sprouting lentils, yet they still gave me horrible gas and bloating. No thanks! I've never had any luck with legumes, no matter how long I soak them.

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on February 28, 2013
at 02:16 AM

@foreveryoung -- Where are you finding this info? (Do you have a specific reference?) I'd like to read it.

33d508b09cc22b95807ae027a0ac3473

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on February 28, 2013
at 01:36 AM

I'm not eating a ton as is--breakfast is often a smoothie (1/4 avocado, 1/2 banana, 5-6 frozen cherries, handful spinach, coconut milk, almond butter), sometimes also a scrambled egg. Lunch is usually some meat, maybe 4-6 oz, and lots of spinach or some other veg. Dinner, I'm often not very hungry and will just do a tin of sardines or some smoked salmon, maybe some fruit.

33d508b09cc22b95807ae027a0ac3473

(45)

on February 28, 2013
at 01:31 AM

I did, and I'm feeling really good!

33d508b09cc22b95807ae027a0ac3473

(45)

on February 28, 2013
at 12:58 AM

Wow, interesting---gonna Google all this info!

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on February 28, 2013
at 12:38 AM

body fatness is lower in females when they eat more tubers as opposed to more meat.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 28, 2013
at 12:38 AM

females prefernce: honey > berries > boabab fruit > tubers.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 28, 2013
at 12:38 AM

males preference : honey > meat > berries > boabab fruit > tubers.

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on February 28, 2013
at 12:07 AM

I just read that coastal Salish ate a bread made of fern roots and camas bulbs. They ate meat and seafood in great quantities, but they didn't shun carbs when they were available.

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on February 28, 2013
at 12:04 AM

Nevertheless I'm here mainly for the meat. Med seafood is my favorite, especially the shellfish.

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on February 28, 2013
at 12:02 AM

Med cultures also cook their beans, which pretty well takes care of most of the notorious toxins without fermenting them. But some paleos perpetuate the myth that kidney beans are equal to castor beans. Our ancestors were smart enough to figure that out 10,000 years ago. They weren't as dumb as Cordain et al assume they were

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(10611)

on February 27, 2013
at 11:59 PM

I dunno. How much meat is there?

5616e8de3e99ae199d9fd896098a331a

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on February 27, 2013
at 11:48 PM

Eugenia, yes, all traditional mediterranean cultures ferment their legumes, so I don't understand the paleo hysteria about them.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on February 27, 2013
at 11:41 PM

I would not suggest beans, especially not the colorful ones. After a 24-hour fermentation, lentils and white beans become rather acceptable. But they would have to be fermented first. The colorful beans are notoriously toxic.

33d508b09cc22b95807ae027a0ac3473

(45)

on February 27, 2013
at 11:17 PM

Ha, awesome, thanks! And I'm half Italian, so...

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3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on February 27, 2013
at 11:40 PM

You have a misconception about the Paleo diet, I think. The stereotypical view of Paleo is that we mostly eat meat. This is not true. As the gurus have mentioned overtime, 2/3s in weight of any dish, is supposed to be veggies, not meat. Additionally, fish and shellfish should have a priority or at least equal status to meat. The dietary move from Neanderthal to Homo Sapiens was "more fish". Oysters is the most potent seafood. Also have sea veggies. Don't eat the same things over and over again. There are many types of fish, shellfish, meats and veggies out there. Don't leave fruit behind either, eat a piece or two a day.

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on February 27, 2013
at 11:47 PM

While I'm sure our ancestors and those small pockets of hunter-gatherers today would love to eat a slab of meat with every meal, it's just not likely in the wild. Most of the food for, say, the Hadza is comprised of "fallback foods" like tubers and baobab with as much meat as can be killed. Even with envenomed steel arrowheads, their success rate isn't high enough to eat meat every day. In fact, when the undushipi berries are in season, they pretty much only eat them for weeks to months.

So anyway, no there isn't anything wrong with this nutritionally and yes there is a strong precedent for it in human evolution.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 28, 2013
at 12:38 AM

males preference : honey > meat > berries > boabab fruit > tubers.

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on February 28, 2013
at 02:16 AM

@foreveryoung -- Where are you finding this info? (Do you have a specific reference?) I'd like to read it.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on February 28, 2013
at 12:07 AM

I just read that coastal Salish ate a bread made of fern roots and camas bulbs. They ate meat and seafood in great quantities, but they didn't shun carbs when they were available.

33d508b09cc22b95807ae027a0ac3473

(45)

on February 28, 2013
at 12:58 AM

Wow, interesting---gonna Google all this info!

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 28, 2013
at 12:38 AM

females prefernce: honey > berries > boabab fruit > tubers.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 28, 2013
at 12:38 AM

body fatness is lower in females when they eat more tubers as opposed to more meat.

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5616e8de3e99ae199d9fd896098a331a

on February 27, 2013
at 11:15 PM

I eat legumes instead of meat 2 days per week and surprisingly the lectins, the phytic acids and the oxalates haven't killed me yet. Maybe because it's a time tested method called mediterranean diet.

33d508b09cc22b95807ae027a0ac3473

(45)

on February 27, 2013
at 11:17 PM

Ha, awesome, thanks! And I'm half Italian, so...

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on February 28, 2013
at 03:59 AM

I've tried sprouting lentils, yet they still gave me horrible gas and bloating. No thanks! I've never had any luck with legumes, no matter how long I soak them.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on February 28, 2013
at 12:02 AM

Med cultures also cook their beans, which pretty well takes care of most of the notorious toxins without fermenting them. But some paleos perpetuate the myth that kidney beans are equal to castor beans. Our ancestors were smart enough to figure that out 10,000 years ago. They weren't as dumb as Cordain et al assume they were

Medium avatar

(10611)

on February 28, 2013
at 12:04 AM

Nevertheless I'm here mainly for the meat. Med seafood is my favorite, especially the shellfish.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on February 27, 2013
at 11:41 PM

I would not suggest beans, especially not the colorful ones. After a 24-hour fermentation, lentils and white beans become rather acceptable. But they would have to be fermented first. The colorful beans are notoriously toxic.

5616e8de3e99ae199d9fd896098a331a

(571)

on February 27, 2013
at 11:48 PM

Eugenia, yes, all traditional mediterranean cultures ferment their legumes, so I don't understand the paleo hysteria about them.

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2e777bbcd49262eb31a24f821abec6bc

(1974)

on February 27, 2013
at 11:24 PM

I eat what I am craving... sometimes thats a ton of fruit, sometimes I have a couple salads and thats all I will eat that day, other days I eat almost only meat. I am a healthy/slender weight and have perfect blood work.

I think that if you seem repulsed by meat then your body probably wants a break from it. Go for some fruit and a salad!

33d508b09cc22b95807ae027a0ac3473

(45)

on February 28, 2013
at 01:31 AM

I did, and I'm feeling really good!

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61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on February 27, 2013
at 11:16 PM

I certainly have meatless meals, but not usually meatless days. I'll make a veggie frittata or scrambled eggs. If you want fruit for dinner and aren't metabolically challenged, have fruit for dinner! No sense in forcing yourself to eat something you are averse to. My entire household is Primal, but my husband is not a big meat eater. Some nights, he'll just eat the veggies I prepared and forgo the meat.

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5dd50f78f47b8848d93724d6eb38d4c1

on February 28, 2013
at 08:49 AM

1) When you're sick of it and feel like you have to start force feeding it to yourself.

2) When you're eating more protein than you're body needs and inefficiently excreting urea

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on February 27, 2013
at 11:27 PM

I agree that you shouldn't eat things that you are sick of. Try fish or shellfish for a change.

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