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Gluten in grain-fed meat

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 14, 2011 at 1:37 PM

If an animal is fed a grain-based diet and thus ingests its gluten content, and gluten is a protein composite, and proteins compose the meat that we can consume, isn't it a viable assumption that gluten is contained in these meats?

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on July 06, 2011
at 03:45 PM

That's the way it's supposed to happen, but all of the autoimmune problems with gluten is because whole gluten proteins get into the blood. At least in humans, can't give a good answer on that with cattle.

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on July 06, 2011
at 01:00 PM

@Olivia what do you mean grains are so bad for ruminants? They eat grains(seeds of grass) in their wild diet. Non-ruminants eat high omega 6 grains and get it incorporated into their tissues while ruminants don't because bacteria in their gut destroys polyunsaturated fats, maybe this is what you mean when you say they are so bad?

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on July 06, 2011
at 08:26 AM

Is it just me or is this just not quite a good answer at all?

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on June 08, 2011
at 05:45 PM

In some cases, I contacted the producer of the products, specifically the ones that say "organic vegetarian feed". The ones that got back to me said they used organic, non-GMO soy in their feed. Obviously, I can't rule out everything. But I've tested what I could, and have limited myself to what makes me feel best.

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on May 15, 2011
at 03:00 PM

I've read similar reports on gluten forums, particularly gluten zap. There are lots of variables though, the processing aids used, such as microbial rinses, etc.

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on May 14, 2011
at 11:41 PM

Apparently, some particularly sensitive celiac people do get sick from grain-fed meat - notably, the founder of Paleo Approved.

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on May 14, 2011
at 11:40 PM

I would add that it's easy to understand why this isn't a viable assumption even if you know absolutely nothing about biochem/physiology. Think about it- do celiacs get sick when they eat grain-fed meat? Are they told to avoid grain-fed meat in addition to following a strict gluten-free diet? The answer is clearly no, so it's obvious that there cannot be any gluten in grain fed meat.

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on May 14, 2011
at 11:33 PM

If the packaging doesn't indicate, and you are testing empirically, then how do you know it's soy in the feed that is causing the problem?

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

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on May 14, 2011
at 11:28 PM

No. The reasons grains are so bad for ruminants have nothing to do with that.

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on May 14, 2011
at 02:53 PM

I didn't say there isn't a difference in the quality of the meat from CAFO animals- clearly, there is. I also find that grass-fed meat tastes better. And it is nutritionally superior. But this isn't because there is gluten in grain-fed meat.

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7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

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on May 14, 2011
at 02:05 PM

No. Digestion entails the breaking down of proteins into their constituent amino acids which can be used to create new tissue, cellular repair, etc. Ingested proteins aren't absorbed and used whole by the body.

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on July 06, 2011
at 03:45 PM

That's the way it's supposed to happen, but all of the autoimmune problems with gluten is because whole gluten proteins get into the blood. At least in humans, can't give a good answer on that with cattle.

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7cbdd4e8eedba06368d4766e6c0ef015

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on May 14, 2011
at 04:57 PM

I have a serious soy sensitivity and find if I eat eggs from chickens on feed that includes soy, I get the same reaction. Switching to eggs eating completely soy-free (from a local farm that I trust) has afforded me an additional source of soy-free protein. I also eat grass fed beef and wild-caught fish. It's been really tough to find poultry on a soy-free diet, since most packaging doesn't indicate anything beyond organic vegetarian feed. I've had to do some testing to find brands that work for me.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on May 14, 2011
at 11:33 PM

If the packaging doesn't indicate, and you are testing empirically, then how do you know it's soy in the feed that is causing the problem?

7cbdd4e8eedba06368d4766e6c0ef015

(320)

on June 08, 2011
at 05:45 PM

In some cases, I contacted the producer of the products, specifically the ones that say "organic vegetarian feed". The ones that got back to me said they used organic, non-GMO soy in their feed. Obviously, I can't rule out everything. But I've tested what I could, and have limited myself to what makes me feel best.

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on July 06, 2011
at 11:43 AM

I'm switching completely to grass fed buffalo,greens,wild caught fish and lamb as of my next paycheck.Been testing how certain foods affect me,and heavily grain fed meats,such as poultry and pork,seem to create low grade celiac symptoms(constant hunger,DH rash,exhaustion).Anything to make this illness a little more bearable.

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13c5a9f1678d75b93f269cdcf69f14d5

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on May 14, 2011
at 10:11 PM

Would it matter if the animal is a ruminant or not?

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

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on May 14, 2011
at 11:28 PM

No. The reasons grains are so bad for ruminants have nothing to do with that.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on July 06, 2011
at 01:00 PM

@Olivia what do you mean grains are so bad for ruminants? They eat grains(seeds of grass) in their wild diet. Non-ruminants eat high omega 6 grains and get it incorporated into their tissues while ruminants don't because bacteria in their gut destroys polyunsaturated fats, maybe this is what you mean when you say they are so bad?

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 14, 2011
at 02:44 PM

If that's how it would work in reality, that would be nice. But have you tried eating only grass fed beef and lamb and wildcaught salmon, compared to eating local chicken, pork, and duck, which are fed grains? I notice a difference. I think they carry over.

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

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on May 14, 2011
at 02:53 PM

I didn't say there isn't a difference in the quality of the meat from CAFO animals- clearly, there is. I also find that grass-fed meat tastes better. And it is nutritionally superior. But this isn't because there is gluten in grain-fed meat.

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on July 06, 2011
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on July 06, 2011
at 08:26 AM

Is it just me or is this just not quite a good answer at all?

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