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For some, is a Carnivore diet the answer?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created December 27, 2012 at 6:31 AM

I'm 24 and been morbidly obese since I was 10 yrs old. Been on a Paleo Diet for about 2yrs now, lost about 95lbs but the last 30 hasn't budged for the past 6 months. In these months, I've been doing VLC with alot of vegetables and about 50-100g of "safe starch", following the Perfect Health Diet by Paul Jaminet.

I'm young, very muscular, exercise a lot, have no cold hands/feet etc. I do seem to have a good deal of food intolerances. In the past 2 weeks, I decided to try a carnivorous or ZERO CARB diet consisting of ruminants/seafood/bone broths/offals and egg yolks. I've instantly lost about 6 lbs already, and my gut health is improving. My appetite (which is notoriously large) has been diminished substantially. I also seemed to detox (my skin is clearer and bowel movements much better, feel less bloated and mood better).

Curiously, I decided to juice vegetables yesterday. I drank that and ate an apple (first major plant food in the past 2 wks)...within 2hrs I had a massive case of diarrhea!

I'm pretty convinced that a carnivore diet is ideal for me. I've been challenging conventional wisdom for the past several yrs in terms of Health but the last stronghold of CW that remains in the Paleosphere is that vegetables can only good for you (at best no harm). I'm suspecting that's not true! I've felt bloated before and I believe all that fiber consumption led to gut flora problems. As I've been reading at Hyper Lipid, gut flora can control our body fat, and its well known that gut flora have an effect on leaky gut. I've also read that carnivorous animals have an almost sterile gut! So maybe some of us weren't meant to eat lots of fiber to populate our gut flora. If you eat a diet that is a mismatch for your genes, problems are bound to occur.

Anyone have thoughts? Any success stories on a ZC/carnivore diet?

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on June 10, 2013
at 10:02 PM

When I tried extremely low carb I felt severely fatigued. A lot of other people give this description so it's certainly not good for everyone. It's also nice to have more variety in the diet.

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on January 14, 2013
at 03:10 AM

sounds good! I'm feeling great after only 2 months, my aches/muscle trigger points have all but disappeared! it's gonna be ZC for me from now on.

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on January 13, 2013
at 08:02 PM

I'm also Zero Carb/following the Autoimmune Protocol. I've made more progress in the last 3 weeks on ZC compared to the entire 5 years I've been struggling with weight loss/yeast issues. Good to know theres some fellow ZC buddies here :) I sometimes wonder that in terms of a percentage how common this is in the Paleo crowd..

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on December 28, 2012
at 09:06 PM

You just fed the troll his favorite meal...attention!

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on December 28, 2012
at 03:38 PM

Your manliness is so impressive. Can I be your friend?

532cfd279d793e8fcc23b9f6d91dde5c

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on December 28, 2012
at 02:36 PM

What about those of us with fructose intolerance? What about the fact that OP has already had 2 years experience and lost ~100 lbs? What about the fact that not everyone is exactly like you?

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on December 27, 2012
at 02:42 PM

Your story's similar to mine. I've been ZC (with some failed experiments lasting a couple weeks) for over three years now, and as far as I can tell, I'll be eating this way forever. I'm in the best health of my life, and I'm 49 years old. The link in my profile goes to my story on AWLR. Good luck to you!

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on June 10, 2013
at 09:07 PM

Im the ultimate carnivore.

I've only eaten meat my whole life and have never eaten most fruit and vegetables, i've eaten some but theres probably 20 or even 30 main fruit and vegetables that i've never even eaten before.

I'm quite healthy, not overweight, low cholesterol, & generally feel pretty good.

My story is on youtube.

video on meat only diet - no fruit or vegetables for 33 years

youtube channel

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on December 28, 2012
at 02:07 PM

I don't think it's "ideal" for everyone but if you look & feel better then where's the harm. I'm no expert btw, I have bone broth, sauerkraut, eggs i love eating ruminants, grass fed of course.. I have veg also & a little fruit sometimes, you seem to be eating all the best things nutrient-wise, the only worry i would have is maybe iron overload?

P.S...truthhurts, this is a great community, try not to answer questions so aggressively...it gives off a bit of a V*gan vibe!!

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on December 28, 2012
at 09:06 PM

You just fed the troll his favorite meal...attention!

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on December 27, 2012
at 12:56 PM

Interesting forum for that over here...

http://forum.dirtycarnivore.com/

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on December 27, 2012
at 07:32 AM

If you're after a good read - http://inhumanexperiment.blogspot.com.au/2009/09/two-brave-men-who-ate-nothing-but-meat.html

Essentially, what you're eating is a ketogenic diet, so your appetite will be surpressed. Undoubtedly you'll be fat adapted as well.

I've mentioned this in a question of my own, which is what bodybuilder Dave Palumbo stated:

"Our bodies are amino acid driven organisms, protein driven. Everything in the body, our hair, nails, skin. And if we don't constantly consume protein, and give our body the raw materials, it can't repair itself."

The diarrhoea could be caused by perhaps the combination of vegetables. But also, the acidity within the apple may have reacted with your digestive system. But don't take my word for it.

Key rule here: Experiment :)

~ Cricket

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on December 28, 2012
at 10:09 PM

Eat whatever makes you feel the best. Meat only won't hurt. I've been toying with that idea for a while but my wife won't go for it. My only suggestion is to make sure that all the red meat is grass fed and the omnivore are pastured or wild.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 28, 2012
at 08:50 PM

@David Rourke - NO!!!!

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on December 28, 2012
at 08:52 PM

So what? She lost 100 lbs. on >100 grams per day Big fucking deal I can eat 100 Grams of candy sugar per day and lose weight.

Will she successfully keep the weight off? Fuck no

EVERY single society on this planet eats fruits and that includes Eskimos.

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on December 28, 2012
at 01:53 PM

You have multiple problems:

1) Listening to these soccer moms on this board and their "safe starch " bullshit 2) You will die young following that disgusting diet 3) Fruits , fruits and more fruits

Try it. Do REAL Paleo which includes fruits. I am shredded at 8% BF and eat lots of fruits but no "soccer mom carbs".

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on December 28, 2012
at 03:38 PM

Your manliness is so impressive. Can I be your friend?

532cfd279d793e8fcc23b9f6d91dde5c

(1981)

on December 28, 2012
at 02:36 PM

What about those of us with fructose intolerance? What about the fact that OP has already had 2 years experience and lost ~100 lbs? What about the fact that not everyone is exactly like you?

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