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B6/B12 supplementation

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Created October 17, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Does one really need B6/B12 supplementation or it is redundant while eating enough meat or liver? Also, what kind of meat and other paleosources are the best for that?

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on October 01, 2013
at 02:56 AM

Great answer!

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on October 17, 2012
at 09:27 PM

Nursling, you can have high levels in your blood, due to diet, but not enough in your cells and in your cerebral spinal fluid, if you have the mutations that reduce your ability to change the vitamins from one form to another. I had a normal reading, too, on account of the liver in my diet, but I was still B12/B9/methylation deficient. If you're still struggling with brain fog and fatigue, I recommend asking your doctor for further tests.

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on October 17, 2012
at 09:25 PM

Same here: folate and methylB12 have done wonders for me. I was about to lose my job on account of the brain fog. I'm heterozygous for MTHFR and homozygous for MTRR, and weekly liver wasn't enough for me.

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on October 17, 2012
at 08:47 PM

Yup, came on here to mention the MTHFR business. I am heterozygous for it and some B supps have helped quite a bit.

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on October 17, 2012
at 03:31 PM

Get some labs done. Are you deficient? If yes, look up what foods will give you the boost. If not, no sense in rocking the boat.

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at 03:05 PM

I asked a specific question and would like to get answers from paleo-aware people here. That's somewhat different from just googling.

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at 02:44 PM

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=b6+b12+sources+meat You seem to have figured out how to post question after question on here, Google should be within your abilities as well.

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7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

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on October 17, 2012
at 03:26 PM

If you are B6/B9/B12 deficient you'll need more than you can get from a paleo diet (that is, more than you can get from reasonable amounts of liver), at least until your levels are back up. And in particular, if you have genetic mutations that hinder your ability to process them, you'd need the vitamins to be in their bioactive forms.

If you're suffering from fatigue and brain fog, there's a chance you're deficient. You can ask your doctor for blood or urine tests for B12/B9 deficiency (check out Chris Kresser's article about B12 deficiency), or get a genetic test (like 23andme, or Dr Amy Yasko's methylation test), or just take a good brand of methylcobalamin and folate (e.g. Solgar folate and Jarrow methylB12) and see if you notice an improvement.

Some resources for this include mthfr.net and the methylation subforum on the phoenix rising forum.

7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

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on October 17, 2012
at 09:25 PM

Same here: folate and methylB12 have done wonders for me. I was about to lose my job on account of the brain fog. I'm heterozygous for MTHFR and homozygous for MTRR, and weekly liver wasn't enough for me.

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

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on October 17, 2012
at 08:47 PM

Yup, came on here to mention the MTHFR business. I am heterozygous for it and some B supps have helped quite a bit.

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

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on October 01, 2013
at 02:56 AM

Great answer!

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on October 17, 2012
at 08:43 PM

egg yolks are a good source. if you eat a good amount of meat/liver you are probably fine. I have awful brain fog and suspected a methylation block/B12 deficiency. turns out I am off the charts high on B12 and folates. I eat lots of yolk and liver.

7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

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on October 17, 2012
at 09:27 PM

Nursling, you can have high levels in your blood, due to diet, but not enough in your cells and in your cerebral spinal fluid, if you have the mutations that reduce your ability to change the vitamins from one form to another. I had a normal reading, too, on account of the liver in my diet, but I was still B12/B9/methylation deficient. If you're still struggling with brain fog and fatigue, I recommend asking your doctor for further tests.

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on October 17, 2012
at 02:45 PM

i don't think people need it, but some feel better with it. my b-12 levels have always been great, but i still get b-12 injections because my doctor says you can never have too much.

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