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Any reason not to mix meat and fruit together?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 27, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Dietary reasons that is. Is there any "health" reason for why these two should not be eaten together? Some people might say don't mix cooked and raw together, but what if the fruit was cooked?

It seems like there's something fundamentally wrong with mixing meat and fruit except in the case of things like mango chutney/salsa and hints of citrus with poultry/fish. There's very limited meat+fruit dishes.

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on July 10, 2013
at 03:29 PM

Yea, there's not a lot of fruit in the center of Africa where we evolved into cro-magnons. Oh wait nvm... Also fructose from fruit doesn't just spike your insulin like regular table sugar.

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on July 28, 2012
at 03:20 PM

I've had it :) I have fermented mango chutney with salmon regularly.

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on July 27, 2012
at 10:54 PM

I've been eating fruit, but with a source of fat to slow whatever blood sugar spike there might be. I take my fruit with CO or grass fed butter.

0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

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on July 27, 2012
at 10:52 PM

In the case of pineapple and ham, it's not that extreme, especially since most people only add a minuscule amount for decoration. It doesn't drastically alter the taste. I've never heard or seen of pork and applesauce, but I don't think the average joe consumes that.

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on July 27, 2012
at 06:33 PM

I did it 11 years ago and was STARVING all of the time. I'm not sure how I survived it!

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:56 PM

So trail mix (with nuts & dried fruit) is a double whammy?

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:50 PM

Same with me Dave S. That was so stupid... of course not nearly as horrific as the 10% Solution (10% dietary fat) - YIKES. Glad I didn't die.

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:28 PM

Perhaps that explains how the corn oil/fructose combo is the fastest way to give rats fatty liver. I don't think they heat it. Fructose and n6 should be minimized on a good paleo/primal diet.

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:24 PM

Very interesting! Some paleo peeps (not me) do eat quite a bit of fruit.

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:21 PM

Pineapple and ham? Pork and applesauce? Turkey and cranberries? Tomato and avocado on a bacon cheeseburger? Okay that last was a stretch and I'm running out of them, but not that uncommon are they?

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:18 PM

And I did Fit for Life back in the eighties. It was my first experience with hypoglycemia.

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:11 PM

Pineapple in a marinade will break down/tenderize tough cuts of beef. You have to be careful not to overdo it though, otherwise it comes out with the texture of liver.

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on July 27, 2012
at 04:59 PM

Yeah, I don't know about dietary reasons, but from a culinary point of view I'm not really a fan of the mix except a little lime juice on broiled fish and grilled pineapple with jerk chicken.

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Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:26 PM

I've read so many confusing things about this issue. Only eat fruit by itself. Never eat fruit by itself. Wait at least 3 hours before and after eating fruit to eat anything else.

Seriously? Sigh.

I don't know what's "optimal" for health and digestion, but I'm a sucker for a nice pork loin stuffed with dried apricots, raisins, and prunes come fall. It's a classic.

I've also seen beef roasts with blackberry sauces and stuff like that.

And think of all the Pacific and Caribbean islands where traditional fish dishes are made with mango or papaya salsas/chutneys.

Again, not sure about the digestive biochemistry, but I'm guessing if these combinations were all that gnarly, they would have disappeared from humanity's collective culinary repertoire by now.

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on July 27, 2012
at 10:54 PM

I've been eating fruit, but with a source of fat to slow whatever blood sugar spike there might be. I take my fruit with CO or grass fed butter.

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A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:16 PM

The enzymes in your tummy don't give a rat's patootie whether the carb/fat/protein/fiber came from meat or fruit. Is there any reason to think that one macro doesn't play well with the others once inside you? I doubt it.

Maybe if you don't produce enough bile, it would be better to eat fatty stuff alone. But that's probably stretching it. I seriously haven't seen any evidence that separating foods provides any benefit, Marilyn and Harvey Diamond notwithstanding.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on July 27, 2012
at 06:33 PM

I did it 11 years ago and was STARVING all of the time. I'm not sure how I survived it!

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on July 27, 2012
at 05:18 PM

And I did Fit for Life back in the eighties. It was my first experience with hypoglycemia.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:50 PM

Same with me Dave S. That was so stupid... of course not nearly as horrific as the 10% Solution (10% dietary fat) - YIKES. Glad I didn't die.

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:45 PM

Pineapple and papaya both contain enzymes that help break down meats and proteins in the stomach, and I love them both so much (though I think pineapple is better with meat (with regard to taste and recipe options). I also love fruit/green and meat salads like strawberries, diced apples, tender greens and chicken or grilled steak on top.

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:21 PM

I don't care for the combination, but I learned that the hard way in restaurants. I got more meat and fish buried in fruit than I would wish on anyone. This was during my Manhattan years with my restaurateur boyfriend exploring ethnic restaurants all over the island. Should be plenty of recipes; where are you looking?

I had some gamey meat gifted to me (oh boy! the real thing caught in the wild) and dumped wine and pineapple all over it. Marinated it for a couple days. Not gamey anymore and not fruity either. I did this to save it, but I think Paleo means using little fruit. It's not like it would be sitting there in front of you in huge quantities all year round if you were foraging.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:24 PM

Very interesting! Some paleo peeps (not me) do eat quite a bit of fruit.

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:19 PM

I haven't found any evidence to not mix meat and fruit. Although technically, many dishes include fruit in the form of tomatoes. Most Indian meat curries use tomatoes as part of the base, cooked thoroughly until the oil separates.

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:18 PM

Perfect Health Diet claims that fructose oxidizes O6 fatty acids. Eating them together is one thing. Adding heat as a catalyst makes the problem worse. Then add time for processed foods.

That being said, I don't worry about it too much. Paleo diets are hard enough as it is and I have a hard time quantifying how bad this problem really is.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:28 PM

Perhaps that explains how the corn oil/fructose combo is the fastest way to give rats fatty liver. I don't think they heat it. Fructose and n6 should be minimized on a good paleo/primal diet.

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:56 PM

So trail mix (with nuts & dried fruit) is a double whammy?

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C1211be9ce446f124760e5eb96323ea8

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on July 28, 2012
at 05:52 AM

MANGO AND FISH. Try it, and you will never ask this question again.

0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

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on July 28, 2012
at 03:20 PM

I've had it :) I have fermented mango chutney with salmon regularly.

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on July 27, 2012
at 06:33 PM

Hmm. Maybe it is to do with the insulin spike you receive from eating sugar. I've read this triggers your hormones to store fat.

I can't imagine our ancestors collecting fruit and saving it for big meals though. It would've been so rare and probably would have consumed it straight away.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on July 10, 2013
at 03:29 PM

Yea, there's not a lot of fruit in the center of Africa where we evolved into cro-magnons. Oh wait nvm... Also fructose from fruit doesn't just spike your insulin like regular table sugar.

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