0

votes

Am I missing out by not eating chicken?

Answered on March 15, 2014
Created March 12, 2014 at 9:57 AM

I just want to make it clear that this is not really an important question, and I am not agonising over it! I'm just curious.

In terms of meat (I also eat eggs and oily fish such as sprats and sardines), I eat lamb, goat and beef. I vary the cuts and it's all on the bone except for the offal - I basically eat oxtail, lamb shoulder, beef neck, brisket, beef shin, lamb heart, lamb liver, goat stewing meat, lamb shank. I don't eat pork and I'm not really interested in trying it (not for religious reasons, just put off for some inexplicable reason).

But here's the thing - I don't avoid chicken, but I just seem to never buy it and hardly ever eat it if I eat out (which isn't often). There's no real reason for this except that since I was a child lamb has been my favourite meat, followed by goat and beef. I've always liked fatty meat with "interesting bits" (gristle, cartilage, bone, etc.) so chicken has seemed rather dull in comparison.

Recently I was wondering if I should start buying chicken occasionally in case it has any particular nutrients that I may be missing out on. I keep putting it off because I always find something else I would rather eat! So I was curious to know if there were any nutritional facts about chicken (and I suppose turkey and duck) that might motivate me to start eating it more. (By the way, I would buy organic and free range and avoid corn fed if I bought it)

Be803dcde63e3cf5e21cc121097b8158

(529)

on March 14, 2014
at 07:35 AM

Actually, I believe their main concern is the quality of poultry most people have access to -- it's probably the most abused farmed animal, and loaded with toxins. Regarding pork, Paul Jaminet has mentioned pig-to-human viral transfer as a significant risk.

56c28e3654d4dd8a8abdb2c1f525202e

(1822)

on March 14, 2014
at 02:39 AM

It occurred to me that Matt may be right after all. The reason why CAFO rabbit is better than CAFO beef is that rabbits are (by far) the most tolerant of caging, of all our meats. They stress less, are healthier, and make better meat. This is due to wild rabbits spending 90% of their life inside holes in the ground, anyway. What one needs is compare rabbits in colonies against pastured cows. Probably they would be closer, because ruminant digestive systems are also very efficient.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on March 14, 2014
at 12:35 AM

higher omega 6 content

2a6025992746ff6cd4ffb6ccf0aa03fc

(60)

on March 13, 2014
at 03:17 PM

I didn't know PHD was against chicken and pork. I know they say red meat is better but I didn't realise they were actively against other kinds. Is there any legitimate reasoning behind it?

56c28e3654d4dd8a8abdb2c1f525202e

(1822)

on March 13, 2014
at 03:00 PM

It is what it is. You seem to say it should be done as RDA/protein. Here you go. You get (with rabbit), 15% more Fe, 100% more Cu, 15% more Se, 58% less Zn, 15% more thiamin, 35% more riboflavin, 20% less B6, 450% more B12. The other values were within 10% or not relevant for meat (Ca, Mg, K). This comparison was done between CAFO rabbit meat and trimmed sirloin. I also postulate that K2 is substantially higher in rabbit (same reason as B12, from eating poop). It is a meat more closely resembling liver. I'd say it is liver lite, except for retinol.

De1095b2ba29c1035f00428cbfe3cc7c

(777)

on March 13, 2014
at 01:12 PM

Interesting, I live in England and there's plenty of rabbits about, I could get out there hunting! :)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on March 13, 2014
at 12:49 PM

Right, so the beef has 85% of the nutrients the rabbit does because fat doesn't contain micronutrients.

56c28e3654d4dd8a8abdb2c1f525202e

(1822)

on March 13, 2014
at 12:50 AM

I took the trimmed sirloin, 0% fat. 46% fat for sirloin, 37% for rabbit.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on March 13, 2014
at 12:18 AM

Per calorie is not a good measure, beef is fattier.

56c28e3654d4dd8a8abdb2c1f525202e

(1822)

on March 12, 2014
at 10:35 PM

Looked at sirloin vs domesticated rabbit, nutritiondata, entries 7492/2 and 4647/2. Rabbit wins in all B vitamins by 10-20% (RDA/calorie), B12 by 500%. Rabbit worse only in zinc amongst minerals. It has slightly better copper, iron, and a much better copper/zinc ratio (some think these two nutrients should be in a certain ratio). It has a much better O3/O6 ratio (both meats are CAFO).

The advantage of rabbit is that it eats excrements. It is a much better system for extracting more minerals and vitamins. The nutrient content of larvae and worms raised on poop is incredible.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on March 12, 2014
at 08:53 PM

For pork belly I like sour things as they tend to go well with the fat, I usually go for cabbage either as sauerkraut or rotkohl (without the traditionally added sugar or apples) or a Greek style salad (cucumbers, tomato, olives, onions, basil, oregano, salt and lots of lemon juice/white balsamic vinegar). But when I'm feeling lazy I just cook up some onions, bell peppers, and some green veggies (Brussel sprouts, broccoli, etc.) right in the fat that rendered out of the pork belly to soak up the flavor, they taste ridiculously good. And sometimes I just eat it alone, with hot sauce :)

De1095b2ba29c1035f00428cbfe3cc7c

(777)

on March 12, 2014
at 08:41 PM

Nice, what are you gonna have on the side? Not that you need much on the side with pork belly! The last time i cooked it i saved the rendered lard & used it as a dip so each bite of belly was drenched in the lard, with a bit of salad on the fork aswell, simply incredible :)

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on March 12, 2014
at 07:59 PM

Pork belly is awesome! I have some waiting for me in my fridge. I was thinking about what I should eat for dinner tonight, swordfish or pork belly.....I'll take this as a sign and go for the pork belly. By the way, ribs are awesome if you cook them nice and slow, the collagen in the connective tissue melts down nicely with long, low heat into delicious, lip-smacking, fatty gelatin awesomeness.

De1095b2ba29c1035f00428cbfe3cc7c

(777)

on March 12, 2014
at 07:41 PM

I agree, pork is lovely, i could eat pork belly almost everyday. Pigs feet broth blended with the pigs skin/meat into a soup with generous salt is amazing. Gotta pick up some ribs soon, been meaning to try some home roasted ribs for a while.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on March 12, 2014
at 02:00 PM

I blame PUFA-phobia.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on March 12, 2014
at 01:58 PM

Rabbit? Cronometer comparisons of beef, pork and rabbit don't really show rabbit having any significant advantage over any other meat, except for B12, which isn't really that great of an advantage. It's got slightly higher selenium, but not that much higher (mostly because it's leaner than beef or pork.)

  • 2a6025992746ff6cd4ffb6ccf0aa03fc

    asked by

    (60)
  • Views
    2K
  • Last Activity
    1590D AGO
Frontpage book

Get FREE instant access to our Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!

7 Answers

best answer

0
32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on March 12, 2014
at 12:01 PM

No, chicken doesn't really offer anything unique, unlike fish (omega-3s), beef (iron and zinc), and pork (thiamine).

0
C0237fd9e277fcef496d538beda1f35b

(287)

on March 15, 2014
at 02:40 PM

I can't imagine a better protein for buffalo dip though....buffalo pork doesn't sound the same.

0
2a6025992746ff6cd4ffb6ccf0aa03fc

on March 13, 2014
at 03:15 PM

Thanks for the answers guys...though you weren't really useful for motivation as I feel like I have even less reason to eat chicken now!

But I like chicken skin, and hadn't thought about how we don't really eat animal skin apart from that. And the feet look cool, so maybe I'll try them. (Rabbit is starting to sound tasty too, regardless of nutrient composition.)

You're all making me feel bad about not eating pork now. I don't know why, it just makes me very suspicious! I always think of worms when I see it. But maybe I should stop being a wimp.

0
Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on March 12, 2014
at 06:41 PM

You're not missing out by not eating chicken, but you're definitely missing out by not eating pork. Pork is awesome in all of its forms: sausages, steaks, bacon, ribs, meatballs, ham, BBQ, pork loin, lard, pate, brains, rinds & cracklings, and even pigs feet. What an amazing, delicious and tasty animal.

De1095b2ba29c1035f00428cbfe3cc7c

(777)

on March 12, 2014
at 07:41 PM

I agree, pork is lovely, i could eat pork belly almost everyday. Pigs feet broth blended with the pigs skin/meat into a soup with generous salt is amazing. Gotta pick up some ribs soon, been meaning to try some home roasted ribs for a while.

0
7160a3fb485cb0af573c0292fdb08144

on March 12, 2014
at 02:46 PM

I eat chicken just because organic chicken is cheaper than other organic meats. If money were no issue, I'd probably stick to what you're eating and not eat much chicken either.

0
56c28e3654d4dd8a8abdb2c1f525202e

(1822)

on March 12, 2014
at 01:33 PM

The only unique thing in chicken is if you eat whole chickens. Then you will get whatever is in the skin. We do have a skin to maintain ourselves, and every other meat we get is peeled (Mexicans enjoy chicharrones, but not here). Surely some of the things that are in skin are also in other membranes, such as tripe, but I do not hear a lot of tripe enthusiasm around here. By cooking a chicken on a bed of root vegetables in the oven, you will get a whole body mixture of fats and other nutrients in the roots. Also, rabbit beats any other meat in micronutrients.

De1095b2ba29c1035f00428cbfe3cc7c

(777)

on March 13, 2014
at 01:12 PM

Interesting, I live in England and there's plenty of rabbits about, I could get out there hunting! :)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on March 12, 2014
at 01:58 PM

Rabbit? Cronometer comparisons of beef, pork and rabbit don't really show rabbit having any significant advantage over any other meat, except for B12, which isn't really that great of an advantage. It's got slightly higher selenium, but not that much higher (mostly because it's leaner than beef or pork.)

56c28e3654d4dd8a8abdb2c1f525202e

(1822)

on March 12, 2014
at 10:35 PM

Looked at sirloin vs domesticated rabbit, nutritiondata, entries 7492/2 and 4647/2. Rabbit wins in all B vitamins by 10-20% (RDA/calorie), B12 by 500%. Rabbit worse only in zinc amongst minerals. It has slightly better copper, iron, and a much better copper/zinc ratio (some think these two nutrients should be in a certain ratio). It has a much better O3/O6 ratio (both meats are CAFO).

The advantage of rabbit is that it eats excrements. It is a much better system for extracting more minerals and vitamins. The nutrient content of larvae and worms raised on poop is incredible.

0
Be803dcde63e3cf5e21cc121097b8158

on March 12, 2014
at 01:11 PM

A lot of folks here do not eat much chicken or pork. This might have something to do with Perfect Health Diet, which speaks against eating those meats.

2a6025992746ff6cd4ffb6ccf0aa03fc

(60)

on March 13, 2014
at 03:17 PM

I didn't know PHD was against chicken and pork. I know they say red meat is better but I didn't realise they were actively against other kinds. Is there any legitimate reasoning behind it?

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on March 12, 2014
at 02:00 PM

I blame PUFA-phobia.

Answer Question


Get FREE instant access to our
Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!