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What is your favorite pro-carnivore rant?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 13, 2011 at 3:26 AM

There is alot of info out there for vegetarians on "How to win an argument with a meateater" but the reverse info isn't as commonly accessible. I'm looking to put together a succinct, yet rocksolid case to present to my vege/vegan/raw-food folk (some of whom I can't just stand by and watch get sicker by the day!) on the healthfulness of animal products. Can y'all help me here? The vege propaganda machine is gaining momentum! Please do share here your favorite pro-meateating factoids, rants, arguments, passions, bubble-bursters, health-tips, great statistics, passionate testimonials.

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I wonder how vegans feel about carnivorous plants....

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I think it's possible the author of the article is following the low fat conventional wisdom dogma - so brings it up as a benefit. That said I have heard people say to eat low(er) fat post workout, as the fat slows digestion. That is of course with the idea that you want to get nutrients into your system and muscles ASAP for maximum recovery.

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Thanks Rhubarb, but why low-fat in training? I've heard the stories of althletes drinking bowls of heavy cream during competitions with amazing results?

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on October 13, 2011
at 01:52 PM

I didn't climb to the top of the food chain to eat plants.

One thing is certain, plants are alive, and I wonder what they think about humans knowing that most want to eat only them. I certainly hope they will not evolve predatory options any time soon.

:)

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on October 13, 2011
at 05:21 PM

I wonder how vegans feel about carnivorous plants....

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on October 13, 2011
at 02:46 PM

Denise Minger gave a lecture on how to win an argument with a vegetarian at the Ancestral Health Symposium earlier this year - it's pretty good, although she does not speak as well as she writes.

Denise Minger Lecture (video)

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on October 13, 2011
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Taken from http://www.illpumpyouup.com/articles/10-reasons-to-eat-beef.htm

10 reason's to eat beef

1) Beef contains creatine. Beef is particularly effective at increasing strength and promoting muscle growth because it has a higher creatine content that any other food. Creatine is a muscle's source of fuel for the first few seconds during training. And it allows you to train harder for longer periods by replenishing adenosine tripphosphate (ATP).

2) Beef contains carnitine. Chicken and fish are extremely low in both carnitine and creatine. Beef, on the other hoof, is packed with both. Carnitine is needed to support normal fat metabolism and contributes branched-chain amino acids (BCAAs), among the most important aminos for a bodybuilder in moss-building mode.

3) Beef contains potassium and protein. Potassium is a mineral that's lacking in the diets of most athletes. Low levels of potassium can inhibit protein synthesis, as well as the manufacture of growth hormone and IGF-l (the latter two are hormones utilized to stimulate muscle growth). Beef is also rich in protein: Four ounces of lean roast beef yield about 22 grams of first-class protein.

4) Beef contains alanine. Alanine is an amino acid that is used to make sugar from dietary protein. If your carb intake is low, alanine comes to the rescue by providing muscles with fuel to allow you to continue training. The beauty of alanine is that it spares muscles from providing the fuel for your heavy-duty workouts.

5) Beef is a low-fat source of CLA. There are cuts of beef that are low in fat. Eye of round steak, for example, is comparable in fat current to a lean chicken breast. Consider that fact that beef is replete with conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), a potent antioxidant that combats tissue damage from hardcore weight training. CLA has also been shown to preserve muscle mass by acting as an anticatabolic agent.

6) Beef contains iron. Iron is a blood-building mineral that is plentiful in beef, quite a contrast to the paltry amount of iron in chicken, and turkey.

7) Beef contains zinc and magnesium. Zinc is another antioxidant that contributes to protein synthesis and muscle growth. As with glutamine and B6, zinc reinforces the immune system. Magnesium supports protein synthesis, enhances muscle strength and improves the efficiency of insulin production, the body's primary anabolic hormone.

8) Beef contains vitamin B6. The higher your protein requirements, the more B6 you should add to your diet. There's enough vitamin B6 in red meat to beef up the immune system, which helps improve recovery from strenuous workouts while promoting protein metabolism and synthesis.

9) Beef contains vitamin B12. Vitamin B12 is essential to the production of red blood cells; those cells deliver oxygen to muscle tissue. It also helps metabolize the byproducts of BCAAs to furnish the body with energy for hardcore training.

10) Beef offers variety. Chicken breasts are pretty boring when eaten day after day for several weeks or months. Round steak, flank steak, sirloin steak and filet mignon all vary in flavor and texture.

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on October 13, 2011
at 04:59 AM

Thanks Rhubarb, but why low-fat in training? I've heard the stories of althletes drinking bowls of heavy cream during competitions with amazing results?

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on October 13, 2011
at 07:02 AM

I think it's possible the author of the article is following the low fat conventional wisdom dogma - so brings it up as a benefit. That said I have heard people say to eat low(er) fat post workout, as the fat slows digestion. That is of course with the idea that you want to get nutrients into your system and muscles ASAP for maximum recovery.

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on October 13, 2011
at 04:50 PM

To me Tony Bourdain is my go to guy for pro carnivorous living!!!

"Vegetarians, and their Hezbollah-like splinter faction, the vegans, are a persistent irritant to any chef worth a damn. To me, life without veal stock, pork fat, sausage, organ meat, demi-glace, or even stinky cheese is a life not worth living. Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for, the pure enjoyment of food."

  • Anthony Bourdain, "Kitchen Confidential," p. 70

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMdSgj-AUQ4

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on October 13, 2011
at 03:07 PM

There may be some quotes in The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith.

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