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Overeating?

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Created February 26, 2014 at 3:01 PM

I've been paleo for perhaps 6-7 moths or so. It has worked great for me. I've gradually lost weight (even though I was skinny to begin with, but now I am pretty much fat-free) 11 pounds and gained muscle (I do crossfit). And I feel great. :) So zero complaints. But I have noticed that lately the amount of food that I eat has been increasing. So, maybe the weight loss in the beginning was due to calorie deficiency, since the diet was new ect. And now, my body needs more food quite simply to put the weight back on? I guess my question is this: How much food do you guys eat? I'm 5'7'' and weigh 112. My meal plan for today has been a whopping 2 pounds of fatty fish and 300 g mixed salad. What I have loved about paleo is the fact that I don't need to pay attention to calories, simply eat when I'm hungry. But now I have started to wonder about my meals, I mean does anyone else eat as much? :)

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on February 27, 2014
at 08:17 PM

I'm 30. :)I do eat other things as well, although I have to admit that fish+veggies is a typical day. I alter the veggies and the fish, I eat eggs and avocados daily, coconut cream (in my coffee, in my veggies, in my tea...). But I also quite intentionally go off-paleo regularly (have lunch with my co-workers and eat some cheese, put milk in my coffee...) just b/c I don't like the idea that life or food has to be 100 % anything. I want to remain relaxed about my eating. Having said that, at home, I'm completely strict, perhaps in order to balance out the occasional milk and cheese.

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on February 27, 2014
at 08:08 PM

:( Too bad. But thanks for this reply, I will check out those articles!

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on February 27, 2014
at 08:06 PM

I work out appr. 5 times a week perhaps. I don't feel tired and I if I do I skip practice. I think I need to eat less protein and more veggies and then add some carbs to my post-work out meal.

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on February 27, 2014
at 06:57 AM

What is your workout frequency?

I'm not a huge fan of BMI...not much of a model but it puts you way low.

check out http://home.fuse.net/clymer/bmi/

run your numbers

btw 2 lbs of salmon is a lot of protein & fat and only ~1300 calories but very satisfying / filling. And that salad isn't adding a lot more. If you're crossfitting everyday, you;re probably way short on calories.

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on February 26, 2014
at 04:27 PM

Maybe you're right, but I think the 2 pounds of fish was a tad excessive. ;) Well, tomorrow I'll only eat 1.5... Haha. About carbs, I realize my intake of carbs is quite low. But I have no desire to eat sweet potato or rice or even that much carrot these days. I do eat a lot of bell peppers, broccoli, kale (yum), cabbage, spinach, lettuce... I could try to substitute some meat/egg/fish with carbs, perhaps post workout. But if I eat what I crave, i will only eat veggies, fat (avocados mainly), fatty fish and meat. And eggs. :)

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on February 26, 2014
at 03:37 PM

Thanks for your reply! I was a bit hesitant to post anything, it is my first time. But I was confident that the paleo community isn't judgmental or mean, and luckily I was right. :) Your advice seems very good and I think where I have gone wrong lately is the second point. I tend to eat until I'm so full I can't even stand up straight. :) Not every day, but sometimes. Food tastes too good... :D But I will definitely take this advice to heart.

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on February 27, 2014
at 07:37 PM

For some reason I'm unable to comment individual replies so I will comment here to you all. Thanks for the replies!

I eat more than fish and veggies, this was an example day, although many days are like this. But I also eat pork (fatty kind) and other meat... And today had both sweet potatoes and chocolate (inspired by you guys ;) ). I'm 30 years old. But good point.

Thanks for also pointing out that I consume too much fish and protein in general. I have to pay attention to this... It has been so easy just to eat what I crave, and since I crave fat and protein, I tend to eat too much salmon and pork. Ofc I eat a lot of veggies as well, but for some reason regardless of how much veggies I consume, I still carve A LOT of fat and protein. But I will definitely use the 0.8-1 g rule. Thanks!!

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on February 27, 2014
at 01:49 PM

Meat/protein should not be a source of calories, it should be a source of nutrients. Eating 2 pounds of fish in a day is a waste, in my opinion. You lost weight because you literally starved yourself (of energy) eating like that.

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on February 27, 2014
at 10:36 AM

I eat absolutely loads and it's not surprising I stick at 140 pounds and am not much shorter than you are. The thin always eat so much less. I wish it weren't quite so simple...... I seem to have a surivalist body that whatever it takes even if I'm just eating loads of good fats I pack in the calories or 1000 calorie bags of nuts and raisins or loads of sweet potatoes with loads of butter. As I want to droop 14 pounds I suppose I need your diet of only fish with mixed veg. Oh dear.

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on February 27, 2014
at 10:29 AM

I'd give a shorter answer with less references copied from my posts on mercola.com or greenmedinfo.com but guess what, the fish oil and krill oil seller mercola.com deleted my posts and all others that don't support the articles and the consumption of the oils and greenmedinfo.com apparently deleted the whole article that generally recommended fish oil consumption.

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on February 27, 2014
at 08:08 PM

:( Too bad. But thanks for this reply, I will check out those articles!

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on February 27, 2014
at 10:27 AM

That's quite an experiment because you consume a omega 3 / omega 6 ratio much higher than what is predicted for our ancestors from the paleolithic era. You are overeating animal seafood and EPA and DHA and maybe other long chain omega 3s and protein with such a plan. Check these about the fatty acids:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12571649

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0899900710001759

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1357266

http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/07/09/jnci.djt174.abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2709305/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8911273

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9168460

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20694407

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1826131

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12568661

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10683808

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10683808

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayFulltext?type=6&fid=7908054&jid=BJN&volumeId=-1&issueId=-1&aid=7908053&bodyId=&membershipNumber=&societyETOCSession=&fulltextType=RA&fileId=S0007114510002679

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22696350

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9699661

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml

http://www.brianpeskin.com/BP.com/reports/CAMB-Fish-Oil-Fallacies-Report.pdf

For a better plan:

Limit your protein intake to what you need, which is 0.8-1 gram protein per kg of weight if you just above being sedentary. With gluconeogenesis, excess isn't much different than carbs.

Limit your PUFA intake with a omega 3 / omega 6 ratio between 1 - 1/4. You need both long chain omega 3s and alpha linoleic acid. You possibly also need gamma linolenic acid. With such plans you might have decreased prostacyclins too much and that is increased with gamma linolenic acid.

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on February 26, 2014
at 09:41 PM

How old are you? 5'7" and 112 is maybe the proper weight for a 12 yr old girl before she is fully developed. Why are you restricting your food so much? This sounds like a potential / existing eating disorder to me. More info is needed to give any meaningful advice.

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on February 27, 2014
at 08:17 PM

I'm 30. :)I do eat other things as well, although I have to admit that fish+veggies is a typical day. I alter the veggies and the fish, I eat eggs and avocados daily, coconut cream (in my coffee, in my veggies, in my tea...). But I also quite intentionally go off-paleo regularly (have lunch with my co-workers and eat some cheese, put milk in my coffee...) just b/c I don't like the idea that life or food has to be 100 % anything. I want to remain relaxed about my eating. Having said that, at home, I'm completely strict, perhaps in order to balance out the occasional milk and cheese.

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on February 26, 2014
at 08:28 PM

I'm 5'7 and I'm at 130... And I know I'm healthy. You said you don't want to eat sweet potatoes, I'd just make sure you get enough avocado and maybe a serving of nuts.. I'm always hungry...but I'm nursing a toddler!

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on February 26, 2014
at 04:07 PM

Doesn't sound like you need to be thinking about eating too much. 5'7" 112lbs seems svelte. If all you eat is fish and salad you are going to be slim. How about eating some carbs?

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on February 26, 2014
at 04:27 PM

Maybe you're right, but I think the 2 pounds of fish was a tad excessive. ;) Well, tomorrow I'll only eat 1.5... Haha. About carbs, I realize my intake of carbs is quite low. But I have no desire to eat sweet potato or rice or even that much carrot these days. I do eat a lot of bell peppers, broccoli, kale (yum), cabbage, spinach, lettuce... I could try to substitute some meat/egg/fish with carbs, perhaps post workout. But if I eat what I crave, i will only eat veggies, fat (avocados mainly), fatty fish and meat. And eggs. :)

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on February 26, 2014
at 03:27 PM

Three rules:

1. Eat when you're hungry.

2. Eat until you're 80% full.

3. Include a sufficient amount of fat at each meal.

If you follow these 3 rules while eating whole, natural foods, you can't overeat. Your body doesn't want to be fat. It wants to be lean. If you intentionally starve yourself, you'll mess your metabolism up. The biggest thing you need to get past is that getting in a "calorie deficit" is not an effective strategy for weight loss. If you eat paleo, the calories will balance themselves out. It sounds like you're doing a great job, and congratulations on your success so far!

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on February 26, 2014
at 03:37 PM

Thanks for your reply! I was a bit hesitant to post anything, it is my first time. But I was confident that the paleo community isn't judgmental or mean, and luckily I was right. :) Your advice seems very good and I think where I have gone wrong lately is the second point. I tend to eat until I'm so full I can't even stand up straight. :) Not every day, but sometimes. Food tastes too good... :D But I will definitely take this advice to heart.

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