What are your thoughts on high carb intake of blue zones?

Commented on December 29, 2015
Created December 17, 2015 at 5:28 PM

So, i've noticed a lot of paleo people are completely anti-carb. And i'm not sure I understand this approach to be honest. Don't get me wrong, I love many things about paleo and I incorporate many paleo ideas in my everyday life (like getting rid of my fear of saturated fat). But the fact still stands that blue zones are pretty much are high to medium carb intake, with staples of the diets being tubers, beans, nuts and fruit (all foods which according to many paleo leaders, should either be consumed in moderation or in some cases completely avoided) . You have many popular figures in the community saying about how terrible carbs are and how they should be avoided for the most part, but why? Okinawans and Ikarians eat huge amounts of root vegetables and tubers, for instance, yet don't have any of the high rates of diabetes and degenartive brain conditions that are supposedly caused by carbs. I accept that low carb is usefull for those with insulin issues, but how is it in anyway unhealthy for everyone else?

Just wanted to get some opinions within a paleo community on this. Thanks



on December 28, 2015
at 08:07 PM

the sardinians too, and I have first hand experience. They have two types of meals, high veggies, with a number of starchy veggie options, and high meat.

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on December 19, 2015
at 02:42 PM

Most people who switch to the paleo diet switch from the Standard American Diet which is extremely high in carbs, and they likely have insulin resistance issues.

The "high carb" of the Blue Zones is relatively low carb compared the SAD.

A good way to reset insulin resistance is to not stimilate insulin.  Hence, low carb works for most of those who go paleo because they are overweight. Not all, but most.

Once their hormones are fixed, they can ramp up on safe starches, which you see in blue zone diets, not pure sugar, corn syrup, liters of soda per day, pastries and pasta, etc.

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on December 29, 2015
at 03:19 AM

I'm currently reading the 2011 edition of Loren Cordain's The Paleo Diet. He gives the diet's macronutrient ranges as 19-35% protein, 22-40% carbohydrate, and 28-47% fat on Page 11. After a tabular comparison of Paleo, Typical US, and Low-carb fad diets he writes

“Modern low-carbohydrate weight-loss diets are really high-fat diets that contain moderate levels of protein. They don’t have the high levels of protein that our ancestors ate – the levels found in the Paleo Diet. Actually, compared with what our ancestors ate, the carbohydrate content of these modern weight-loss diets is far too low. Even worse, almost all of these low-carbohydrate diets permit unlimited consumption of fatty, salty processed meats (such as bacon, sausage, hot dogs, and lunch meats) and dairy products (cheeses, cream and butter) while restricting the consumption of fruits and vegetables. Cancer-fighting fruits and vegetables! This dietary pattern is drastically different from our ancestors.”

From Page 23, Ground Rule #2 of the Paleo Diet:

“All the fruits and nonstarchy vegetables you can eat.”

While Cordain rejects agricultural carbohydrates such as dairy, cereals and starchy tubers, he strongly supports eating fruits and vegetables. 




on December 29, 2015
at 02:36 PM

Thanks :D

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