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Higher Carb Paleos - Is this what you eat?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 10, 2011 at 2:02 AM

I was playing around with cron-o-meter to see what I would be eating at different suggested ratios, and when I selected the Paleo option, it suggests 15% protein, 25% carbs and 65% fat.

At the current level of calories it's suggesting (1705), that's 60.9g protein, 101.5g carbs, 117.3g fat.

Based on what I've eaten today (which was not an optimal day by any stretch, and is also very low on meat) I'm already up to 95.8g protein, and I've barely had any meat.

So, my question here is this: assuming you are not LC or VLC Paleo (because I assume 100g carbs would be out of range for you), do these ratios sound right to you? Are you guys/gals eating that little protein? 60.9g protein seems like such a tiny amount - small enough that at the end of the day I'd probably be walking up to a cow with a knife and fork and a crazed look in my eye. Do you use the preset recommendations on that site? If so, which one do you prefer? I figure they'd be more of a guideline than anything, and no, I'm not trying to micromanage my diet to within an inch of it's life, but seeing that number has me curious. It just seemed so small.

072fd69647b0e765bb4b11532569f16d

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on October 10, 2011
at 08:44 PM

Totally agree with ben. I have no idea what my macro counts would be but I don't use a lot of added fat. Eat meat, use some quality oil or butter here and there and of course have some quac whenever you feel like it, but otherwise, starchy carbs and protein for me, please. No one prescription works for everyone, so to point at someone's macros as being "too low" or "too high" or "too this" or "too that" is an inaccurate way to approach this stuff.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on October 10, 2011
at 01:26 PM

interesting. those percentage of daily cal numbers are just what I get just eating naturally.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on October 10, 2011
at 01:25 PM

I eat the fat that is attached to the meat/fish I eat and then whatever coconut oil and palm oil I cook with. That's it. I prefer getting my calories from carbohydrate and protein - more fun to eat.

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on October 10, 2011
at 07:31 AM

They're basing this amount on a 5'10" female who is (temporarily!) just under 200lbs. When I originally lost weight, I was eating over 100g protein. I'd have to look up the numbers again for an exact number, but I know it was over 100g. That seems much closer to what makes sense. I should probably say that I feel better on the LC end of things, which is why I'm asking this of HC people. Thought maybe it just looked low to me because I'm usually lower in carbs. Guess not since most others on here are getting over 100g too.

C803c65555a42f13bf60f873c2923715

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on October 10, 2011
at 04:08 AM

Seems slightly low in protein, depending on your height/size.

74f5d2ff6567edd456d31dfb9b92af61

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on October 10, 2011
at 03:01 AM

Thanks, mtalipova! :)

D72e9d21977363ea1850fa00555f151a

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on October 10, 2011
at 02:51 AM

386.4cal - Protein - 19% :: 746.4cal - Carbs - 37% :: 926.1cal - Fat - 44%... Felt like doing math when I should be sleeping. Maybe Cron-o-Meter doesn't count calories from fiber? But yeah, adding it all up it was slightly more than 1981.2.

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on October 10, 2011
at 02:49 AM

That seems a bit low on fat, Ben.

D72e9d21977363ea1850fa00555f151a

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on October 10, 2011
at 02:49 AM

386.4 - Protein - 19% 746.4 - Carbs - 37% 926.1 - Fat - 44% Felt like doing math when I should be sleeping. Maybe Cron-o-Meter doesn't count calories from fiber? But yeah, adding it all up it was slightly more than 1981.2

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on October 10, 2011
at 02:23 AM

No idea about their guidelines but I'm at about 33% each for protein carb and fat of daily cals. Today that puts me at 157 grams protein, 241 grams carb, and 87 grams fat.

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Dc6407193ba441d1438f6f0c06af872b

on October 10, 2011
at 02:54 AM

I was amused by the fact that they called those ratios "paleo". Whatever. We know it's paleo whether you eat like a Kitavan or an Inuit, both on very opposite carb sides of chron-o-meter's paleo carb level. The paleo community is moving away from caring too much about macronutrient ratios, except for people with specific issues, e.g. weight loss goals, diabetes, exercise quality. So you can track and see what works for you, but whatever macronutrient breakdown feels best, might as well run with it.

I track because tracking seems to do whatever I need psychologically to help with compliance, a different issue. But to answer your question, last week I was 19% carbs, 23% protein, 56% fat and 2% alcohol. Gotta jack up that last number. :-)

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on October 10, 2011
at 03:10 PM

When I track things, seems I eat about 150-250g fat, 70-120g protein, 100-200g carbs. So I don't think I count as 'low carb' but it's a fairly small proportion of my daily calories, since I eat so much fat.

I don't have an appetite for much more protein. But I only weigh around 100 lbs.

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on October 10, 2011
at 03:05 PM

60% carbs 30% fat 10% protein with 135g of protein

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8c5533ffe71bd4262fedc7e898ead1ba

on October 10, 2011
at 02:54 PM

I tracked mine for a month and it was more like 20% protein, 50% fat and 30% carbs.

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on October 10, 2011
at 04:40 AM

That protein seems very low. I use fitday only on occasion and I ignore the paleo setting for sure...

Also for me the lower the carb the higher the fat. Protein for me is a constant.

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on October 10, 2011
at 03:57 AM

S. Boyd Eaton and Melvin Konner suggest the following as the “estimated ancestral diet“:

■ Carbohydrates, % daily energy: 35-40 ■ Protein, % daily energy: 25-30 ■ Fat, % daily energy: 20-35 ■ Added sugar, % daily energy: 2 ■ Fiber, g/day: >70 ■ EPA and DHA*, g/day: 0.7-6 ■ Cholesterol, mg/day: 500+ ■ Vitamin C, mg/day: 500 ■ Vitamin D, IU/day: 4,000 (sunlight) ■ Calcium, mg/day: 1,000-1,500 ■ Sodium, mg/day: under 1,000 ■ Potassium, mg/day: 7,000

Proteins provide 4 calories (actually kcals) so you could run the numbers yourself. Health authorities, if you believe them, say we only need 0.8 g of protein per kg of ideal body weight daily.

-Steve

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on October 10, 2011
at 01:26 PM

interesting. those percentage of daily cal numbers are just what I get just eating naturally.

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on October 10, 2011
at 02:49 AM

I have my own macros set up for my profile under "Custom" with 20% protein, 35% carbs and 45% fats. This changes day to day, of course--I'm not neurotic enough about my diet to adhere to everything so strictly. My carb range is 150-200g/day, sugars under 30g, and calories around 1800 for maintenance. I usually eat 100g+ protein/day without even trying.

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74f5d2ff6567edd456d31dfb9b92af61

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on October 10, 2011
at 02:18 AM

No, I don't use the preset settings. I guess I didn't even know they existed!

Since I started tracking in early August, I'm averaging 96.6g protein, 186.6g carbs, and 102.9g of fat per day. I'm averaging 1981.2 calories per day. I'm not sure the percents, though, because it doesn't offer me a piechart for my total averages. (I tried multiplying my carbs/protein by four and my fat by nine, but that gave me an inaccurate total number of calories.)

It varies, really, day by day. I have days where I'll happily put away 130+g of fat and hardly any protein (why, hello there, PMS!) or days where I can't get enough of the dead animal and tuck into 150-200g of protein.

I really like Cron-o-Meter, though. It soothes my OCD and allows for my number-crunching nerd to come out of hiding. :D

74f5d2ff6567edd456d31dfb9b92af61

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on October 10, 2011
at 03:01 AM

Thanks, mtalipova! :)

D72e9d21977363ea1850fa00555f151a

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on October 10, 2011
at 02:51 AM

386.4cal - Protein - 19% :: 746.4cal - Carbs - 37% :: 926.1cal - Fat - 44%... Felt like doing math when I should be sleeping. Maybe Cron-o-Meter doesn't count calories from fiber? But yeah, adding it all up it was slightly more than 1981.2.

D72e9d21977363ea1850fa00555f151a

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on October 10, 2011
at 02:49 AM

386.4 - Protein - 19% 746.4 - Carbs - 37% 926.1 - Fat - 44% Felt like doing math when I should be sleeping. Maybe Cron-o-Meter doesn't count calories from fiber? But yeah, adding it all up it was slightly more than 1981.2

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