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Does anyone feel very hot whilst eating high fat?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 09, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Ive been on the paleo diet for 3 weeks now, i was very hungry for the first couple of weeks but i feel im eating enough fat now and im not really getting hungry between meals.

how ever the last few days I have been feeling extremely hot, I don't know if that's a sign of my body adapting to the high fat content or what, I should mention I have been keeping my self very well hydrated.

I would say my carbs are very low to what im use to, I have 2 bananas in the morning with a bit of protein straight to the gym a strength workout (mon,wed,fri) or 30 mins at 65-75% HR max followed by core training (tue,thu, I have another protein shake and one banana after taht and then for the rest of the day i'm just eating veg with meals, so not a lot of carbs.

Im 6'4" and 230 lbs, I would probably say I'm around 15 % body fat.

I feel like Im doing a lot, Im not getting stronger in the gym due to the lack of carbs and im feeling very hot for the rest of the day at the moment and quite tired to say the least.

Is this normal for someone adapting to the paleo way of eating, is this a sign of me detoxifying or something? my aim is to lose body fat so hence the low carbs, but i feel like im running on empty.

Thanks for reading.

Ed0cb30f40daff568778b776b2a5a81d

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on March 05, 2013
at 05:42 PM

I may add that the thermic effect on me seems to be greater from olive oil than butter and coconut oil. This could have something to do with saturated vs. unsaturated fat. Just a thought.

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on March 05, 2013
at 08:04 AM

I have no background for claiming either or in this matter. I think first of all there were too few subjects and it was too poorly controlled to give a reliable comparison of the two oils. Honestly, I think the inflammation idea is a little far fetched and gives too much credit to the Paleo thinking. My takeaway is that you can consume quite a lot of fat without gaining signifcant weight. This is also very much what I've experienced myself.

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on March 04, 2013
at 10:36 PM

Also, thought on the thermic effect of the corn oil...could it possibly be linked to the inflammatory effect? Energy is not created or destroyed only changes in its form. For those consuming olive oil, the weight gain was more than those consuming the corn oil despite the same levels of consumption. Therefore there is an energy discrepancy. Paleo informs us that corn oil is a main source of bodily inflammation. Inflammation generates heat. Those participants who consumed corn oil experienced elevated levels of heat expenditure. Perhpas an indirect proof of corn oil causing inflammation?

C68f0b374156e5ce7a9b8358232bfed0

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on March 04, 2013
at 10:28 PM

That's an excellent paper Hemming! It's amazing how there seems to be a real censor on scientific research particularly when the results are pertinent to overall health of the general human population. Alot of research like this was published in the 70s but squashed, possibly/probably for political and economic reasons; then they became lost. It hasn't been followed up or promoted because of the same reasons and because it's hidden, unknown....although, I do wonder, if this research been published now, instead of the 70s would people think differently?

Ed0cb30f40daff568778b776b2a5a81d

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on March 04, 2013
at 08:28 PM

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/26/2/197.full.pdf it takes a little time to load. I questioned Peter Attia about it and it turns out that NuSi has reviewed and found it too poorly designed FWIW. It's still interesting though, look for instance at table 3.

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on March 04, 2013
at 08:02 PM

i only wanted to comment that i like the use of your word "whilst"

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on March 04, 2013
at 07:41 PM

I'd love to see that study if you can remember what it was called.

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on May 10, 2012
at 07:30 PM

lol TeaElf thats brilliant, no not in the sexy way but im glad its making you feel sexy ;)

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on May 10, 2012
at 07:29 PM

thanks for the good comments jo60, i will look into that.

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on May 09, 2012
at 08:24 PM

If by hot you mean *sexah*, then yes. ;)

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on May 09, 2012
at 07:02 PM

yes it takes time and you do have to go into a carb depleted state for the body to trigger into fat burning.There is an adjustment/adaptation period. please research and read up on it. ketones as fuel/low carb/induction/ketosis/Phinney/ once you do adapt to using fat as long as the the carb threshold is low enough your body thrives on fat as fuel.

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on May 09, 2012
at 06:58 PM

It takes time for the body to convert to using fat for fuel rather than glucose. With very low carb hi fat is recommended to postpone excerccise until the body adapts. It can take anywhere from 2-6 weeks for a total adaptation. Personally I would cut the fruit.esp bananas and esp in the morning.take a TBSP of CO and pass on the gym. read more on ketone adaptation. Mark Sisson has good info..many comments on his blog are incorrect re ketosis. it is on/off. and yes esp with CO you may feel the heat. take your time and adapt properly.http://freetheanimal.com/ carbs do not = strength.

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on May 09, 2012
at 05:51 PM

Did this feeling last or was it just initially and then did it pass as your body adapted tot he point where you feel lots of energy? In the past I have been heavily fuelled by carbs due to playing rugby and lots of strength and power training, I mean Iv been eating around 6-8g per kg of body weight (so 600-800g daily) for the last 6 years due to training needs. my body has probably never had to use fat as an energy sauce for the 26 years Iv been alive so Im probably not very well adapted to using fat as a fuel.

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on May 09, 2012
at 05:42 PM

funny you say that as iv been a lot of coconut oil and cream making mainly curries. guess I'll have to see how I feel in a weeks time. thanks for the answer.

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on May 09, 2012
at 05:11 PM

Yes this happened to me with an increase in fat as well. I dont have any medical knowledge to back this, but personally I think it is because your body works harder to burn off the fat stores than carbs- especially when there are no carbs left!

E7e7e1c856d4494d4a1b700b6869df90

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on May 09, 2012
at 07:02 PM

yes it takes time and you do have to go into a carb depleted state for the body to trigger into fat burning.There is an adjustment/adaptation period. please research and read up on it. ketones as fuel/low carb/induction/ketosis/Phinney/ once you do adapt to using fat as long as the the carb threshold is low enough your body thrives on fat as fuel.

2f6ef8ed84e943285c1386254d3c66ea

(195)

on May 09, 2012
at 05:51 PM

Did this feeling last or was it just initially and then did it pass as your body adapted tot he point where you feel lots of energy? In the past I have been heavily fuelled by carbs due to playing rugby and lots of strength and power training, I mean Iv been eating around 6-8g per kg of body weight (so 600-800g daily) for the last 6 years due to training needs. my body has probably never had to use fat as an energy sauce for the 26 years Iv been alive so Im probably not very well adapted to using fat as a fuel.

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on May 09, 2012
at 05:24 PM

If you have increased your coconut oil intake that will make you warmer. Coconut oil has a “thermogenic” effect, I used to get warmer after eating food that contained coconut oil. It doesn't happen so much now as I think my body has got used to it.

2f6ef8ed84e943285c1386254d3c66ea

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on May 09, 2012
at 05:42 PM

funny you say that as iv been a lot of coconut oil and cream making mainly curries. guess I'll have to see how I feel in a weeks time. thanks for the answer.

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on May 09, 2012
at 08:22 PM

thanks for asking this, I have noticed that when I am doing pretty good eating paleo nearly 100% of the time I start feeling like I'm having what sometimes feel like hot flashes, mostly noticeable when I am at work and moving around a lot. I do a lot of coconut oil generally (been putting about a TBSP in my coffee that I take to work with me in the mornings to get thru til I can go to lunch and eat something solid as well as cooking with it). I typically don't make breakfast on days that I work and just sip on my coffee and then go to lunch when I start getting hunger pangs. I'm not working out much right now as I'm just working on eating good and getting fat-adapted but the heat is definitely more noticeable when I'm active at work. I do feel like my energy is good though and don't really feel tired until I start getting hungry in the afternoon. I would recommend dropping the bananas for breakfast as well and going for something that is heavier protein and fat and less carb if you have to have something. Since bananas are so starchy you are probably burning through those calories faster and ending up feeling tired. I usually eat at least 1 banana a day, but generally during my lunch break or as a snack after work before I get a big dinner going.

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on March 04, 2013
at 07:24 PM

Referring to Mandy's post. Coconut oil is mainly MCT which can't be stored in the body, it has to be burned/excreted. I've experienced the same with olive oil actually to a point where, if I have enough in the evening, I'll wake up at night thinking that I need to get rid of my duvet.

I saw a study where they tried to make people gain weight by giving them insane amounts of olive oil and they surprisingly little but instead said that they felt very warm all the time :)

C68f0b374156e5ce7a9b8358232bfed0

(637)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:36 PM

Also, thought on the thermic effect of the corn oil...could it possibly be linked to the inflammatory effect? Energy is not created or destroyed only changes in its form. For those consuming olive oil, the weight gain was more than those consuming the corn oil despite the same levels of consumption. Therefore there is an energy discrepancy. Paleo informs us that corn oil is a main source of bodily inflammation. Inflammation generates heat. Those participants who consumed corn oil experienced elevated levels of heat expenditure. Perhpas an indirect proof of corn oil causing inflammation?

Ed0cb30f40daff568778b776b2a5a81d

(943)

on March 04, 2013
at 08:28 PM

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/26/2/197.full.pdf it takes a little time to load. I questioned Peter Attia about it and it turns out that NuSi has reviewed and found it too poorly designed FWIW. It's still interesting though, look for instance at table 3.

C68f0b374156e5ce7a9b8358232bfed0

(637)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:28 PM

That's an excellent paper Hemming! It's amazing how there seems to be a real censor on scientific research particularly when the results are pertinent to overall health of the general human population. Alot of research like this was published in the 70s but squashed, possibly/probably for political and economic reasons; then they became lost. It hasn't been followed up or promoted because of the same reasons and because it's hidden, unknown....although, I do wonder, if this research been published now, instead of the 70s would people think differently?

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on March 04, 2013
at 07:41 PM

I'd love to see that study if you can remember what it was called.

Ed0cb30f40daff568778b776b2a5a81d

(943)

on March 05, 2013
at 05:42 PM

I may add that the thermic effect on me seems to be greater from olive oil than butter and coconut oil. This could have something to do with saturated vs. unsaturated fat. Just a thought.

Ed0cb30f40daff568778b776b2a5a81d

(943)

on March 05, 2013
at 08:04 AM

I have no background for claiming either or in this matter. I think first of all there were too few subjects and it was too poorly controlled to give a reliable comparison of the two oils. Honestly, I think the inflammation idea is a little far fetched and gives too much credit to the Paleo thinking. My takeaway is that you can consume quite a lot of fat without gaining signifcant weight. This is also very much what I've experienced myself.

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on March 04, 2013
at 07:05 PM

Thanks for the interesting posts. I have been doing paleo for a few weeks and noticed that when I eat larger amounts of fat I get quite hot too. Usually, this happens if I eat a lot of nuts, say 100 grams worth, and can stay with me for a few hours. I have no Idea why this is but I am not particularly bothered by it; I am feeling good otherwise and I have noticed that I also don't get hungry during this time. Having said this, I am curious to know what is going on...

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