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Why is everyone advising me not to eat low carb?

Commented on April 29, 2014
Created April 28, 2014 at 3:47 PM

So since going paleo I have had around 10 people say pretty much the same thing.

Going paleo is great and will be the best dietary change i have ever made BUT do not go low carb.

I had my training partner who is paleo say this, my mother who has been paleo for 5 months, my uncle and distance runner/military man who has been paleo going on 10 years and a bunch of my friends from the gym.

I had started paleo because I had seen the transformation of a few local powerlifters who had done a recoup phase using a low carb very high fat diet. I was astounded at their progress conditioning and aesthetics wise.

However the common theme against low carb paleo has been:

1. You don't lose fat faster, you merely lose water weight, fat loss is about calories

2. You do not maintain or gain strength on a low carb diet

3. While fat is good very high fat diets with over 100 grams of saturated fat a day can lead to cardiovascular disease

4. You feel like crap

5. Thyroid problems

I need to lose body fat and get healthy and I rarely miss carbohydrate when I cut them out but I am confused at all the people doing paleo or a variant of it warning me to avoid VLC paleo.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on April 29, 2014
at 12:32 AM

Fat adaption is silliness. Calories matter for weight loss.

618fc5298c4a96b817c4918c795a875f

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on April 28, 2014
at 09:59 PM

One week is nothing - come back in a month and tell us how you are feeling eating VLC

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on April 28, 2014
at 07:59 PM

here's mine -- it will definitely get into the middle of a chicken breast (or a standing rib roast for that matter) -- http://www.amazon.com/Cuisavours-Stainless-Seasoning-Injector-Marinade/dp/B00FD9LSP4/

Eb62a42595221e465ffda5b243b8eb9f

on April 28, 2014
at 05:34 PM

Hahaha I am not arsed about calories for the first week I just want to get fat adapted.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on April 28, 2014
at 05:28 PM

also, a pound of pork cooked in butter and half a pound of bacon? I believe we have found our weight loss problem....

Eb62a42595221e465ffda5b243b8eb9f

on April 28, 2014
at 05:28 PM

I have only done that with chicken breast. It works but I can never get it all in the middle like a chicken kiev.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on April 28, 2014
at 05:25 PM

not to get too culinary-geeky, but I believe that's just a soft rub, not a marinade. Now you have me wondering about injecting melted butter and herbs into a chicken, and then letting it cool.....

Eb62a42595221e465ffda5b243b8eb9f

on April 28, 2014
at 05:08 PM

I spend around 5 minutes massaging a mixture of kerry gold butter, rosemary, black pepper and salt into the pork until it is soaked into the meat. When you cook it it comes out incredibly tender and tasty.I had 450g of pork loin which was about 75 grams of protein. I had bacon for breakfst I forgot to mention 200g of bacon was around 30 grams of protein and give or take a gram or two for some livers I had left over and the stuff from the spinach I got maybe 110 grams. I did not lift weights today though I did some fasted walking this morning so I am comfortable with a lower protein intake.

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on April 28, 2014
at 04:58 PM

Your best bet is to read: The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance, and, The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living. Also check out http://eatingacademy.com/ By Dr. Peter Attia.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on April 28, 2014
at 04:56 PM

BTW, how are you marinading in butter? Doesn't a marinade have to be liquid? Butter is solid at room temperature or below...

Also, I am not sure how you are getting to 150g protein with that diet? That's like 24oz of pork

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on April 28, 2014
at 04:52 PM

yeah. that's why I put the ranges down. Too many people talking past each other when they are not using similar definitions.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on April 28, 2014
at 04:34 PM

If you're tracking protein, you're probably already tracking calories. Nutrient/calorie tracking is easy nowadays.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on April 28, 2014
at 04:33 PM

Worth pointing out that even "high carb" paleo is still low carb compared to everything else.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on April 28, 2014
at 04:30 PM

Just go by feel. But remember, if you start dragging -- or you start not wanting to exercise -- it could be because you are too low carb.

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Eb62a42595221e465ffda5b243b8eb9f

on April 28, 2014
at 04:28 PM

@CDone

If I am looking to recoup as quick as possible would it be worth dropping the training and going VLC for a couple of month and just walking the dog everyday and doing low intensity exercise like that?

I can't stand tracking my calories and I usually only track my protein. Going VLC allows me to play by feel.

For example today I had some pork that had been marinading in rosemary and kerry gold butter overnight. I had a light dinner of spinach and peppers with some crackling over the top from the pork and some balsamic vinegar.

Later I will have a glass of red wine and a piece of 90% dark chocolate.

I have been VLC for a week now and I am not tired, do not feel sleepy, do not get headaches. I actually feel great.

If I do stay VLC would I be best dropping the weights and sticking to low intensity cardio a few times a week rather than trying to maintain intensity in the gym doing heavy triples and singles?

Also for some reason my beard has grown like an inch in the week of paleo. I feel so great I am kind of angry that I was told to eat whole grains and avoid fat all my god damn life.

618fc5298c4a96b817c4918c795a875f

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on April 28, 2014
at 09:59 PM

One week is nothing - come back in a month and tell us how you are feeling eating VLC

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on April 28, 2014
at 04:34 PM

If you're tracking protein, you're probably already tracking calories. Nutrient/calorie tracking is easy nowadays.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on April 28, 2014
at 04:56 PM

BTW, how are you marinading in butter? Doesn't a marinade have to be liquid? Butter is solid at room temperature or below...

Also, I am not sure how you are getting to 150g protein with that diet? That's like 24oz of pork

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on April 28, 2014
at 04:30 PM

Just go by feel. But remember, if you start dragging -- or you start not wanting to exercise -- it could be because you are too low carb.

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on April 28, 2014
at 04:10 PM

since you have claimed that you would like to maintain a power-lifting exercise plan -- which necessarily is very glycogen depleting -- you need to be able to replenish those stores. that means more carbs. People are advocating that you, given teh nature of how you would like to exercise, focus on eating more carbs than VLC allows for (While individual ranges vary, typically: VLC<25g; LC - 25g-75g; Primal - 75g-150g; High Carb > 150g)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on April 28, 2014
at 04:33 PM

Worth pointing out that even "high carb" paleo is still low carb compared to everything else.

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on April 28, 2014
at 04:07 PM

Research "The Perfect Health Diet" and read about carb intake...it talks all about why you need some carbs for your body to function properly. THis is especially important when you are active and exercising consistently.

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