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Paleo fix for Uticaria (Hives)?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created December 06, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Hi everyone,

So, I've got a question about a recent issue I've had. I haven't been eating paleo, but have been generally low carb, rarely eating bread etc. However, recently through a number of reasons I've eaten a lot of white carbs and my overall diet has been poor.

I now have hives over my arms and legs that can be controlled with an antihistamine. However, I had a fast day yesterday and today I ate a piece of bread in the morning, within an hour I had the rash back and my bad cough started again.

Am I being silly or could there be a link? Do you think cutting carbs and aiming paleo would be a good course to shift this problem?

Many thanks, John

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on December 07, 2012
at 02:09 PM

Thanks for your brilliant reply! I think the biggest issue surrounding rashes is that the amount of things that could cause it are enormous. I'm no closer to finding what it is for me, but thankfully the symptoms are reducing every day. I'm taking quite a bullish approach to this, I'm alternate day fasting for now and being really care about what I eat, ensuring that it's all minimal amounts of histamines. I think you're right how low/no carb could cause bacterial issues, however surely anyone who eats vegetables is going to have some carbs? I think the bigger problem is gluten! Tx

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on December 06, 2012
at 07:11 PM

hey john...this is tough. I feel for you.

you know you're not alone!

There's a lot of anecdotal experience on this site linking diet to skin conditions so I think a paleo type diet is the right start.

However, it seems to be a mixed bag on skin conditions getting better or getting worse with the diet. You have to really pay attention to how you feel, get good sleep, etc. before you can say that low carb is better or worse for you. but in general most people seem to feel their overall health improves with better nutrition, vitamin D, and general movement and more rest like on the paleo diet.

For a chronic infection like urticaria (or recent!), Paul Jaminet has a good series on this with his podcast with chris kresser - basically, low carb can make some people much better, but it can also make people worse, due to the fact that fungal infections use ketones versus bacteria, which can run on carbs. google paul jaminet on chris kresser's show for a better explanation... so if you go too low carb, you might aggravate the fungal, too high carb you might aggravate the bacterial one.

So it's really hard to say unless you've been paleo/in good health for long and a have a good baseline, are you taking supplements, do you get vitamin D, etc. ? whether or not low carb will fix your problem.

For people with skin problems I generally think that you have a ton of factors to fix - I'm an extreme person, so I would take out irritants. - including shampoo, supplements, and eat organic vegetables and grass-fed beef and lots of bone broth.

The rash can come from digestion issues (leaky gut), a delayed allergy, a fast allergy, pesticides, herbicides, cosmetic products allergy, etc. etc. etc. .

Some interesting posts on rashes (not urticaria) for you:

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2012/01/around-the-web-why-i-blog-edition/

To conclude, I generally like the PerfectHealthDiet better than paleo or primal, because they are slightly higher but still low carbohydrate. They understand the reactions that come up when you change your diet, and advise being well nourished, not demonizing carbs or advertising bacon t-shirts. they have an innate understanding of how reactions in the body can cause sickness.

this was the jaminets' response to one mother whose son kept getting rashes:

"Hi Claire,

I think skin rashes are often due to fungal infections and very low-carb diets impair the immune response to fungi, so I would first consider whether your paleo diet may be too low carb.

If so you might add some rice, that is relatively low in fiber and may be the easiest starch to tolerate if he has gut issues.

I???d also make sure his vitamin D levels are optimal, and follow the rest of our supplement program including vitamin C, selenium, iodine, magnesium, copper, chromium."

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2010/10/for-the-love-of-tubers/

So in general, I would advise you to start the PerfectHealtDiet, plus supplements they recommend.

if you go too low carb, you might feed fungal infections, go too high carb, might feed bacterial ones. Go moderately low carb (600-800 carb calories a day) and follow the rest of the PHD. http://perfecthealthdiet.com/the-diet/

hopefully your problem improves, but if you go very low carb or have been very low carb for too long and things get worse, there's your clue.

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on December 07, 2012
at 02:09 PM

Thanks for your brilliant reply! I think the biggest issue surrounding rashes is that the amount of things that could cause it are enormous. I'm no closer to finding what it is for me, but thankfully the symptoms are reducing every day. I'm taking quite a bullish approach to this, I'm alternate day fasting for now and being really care about what I eat, ensuring that it's all minimal amounts of histamines. I think you're right how low/no carb could cause bacterial issues, however surely anyone who eats vegetables is going to have some carbs? I think the bigger problem is gluten! Tx

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