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Definitions/Quantities: ZC, VLC, Low carb, Moderate Carb?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 29, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Someone asked on another thread at what point/number of grams that it's considered VLC instead of moderate carb.

Are there official definitions/carb limits for each variation?

My thoughts are:

Zero Carb = 10 or less

VLC = 30 or less

Low Carb = 50 or less

Moderate Carb = 100 or less

But I completely made that up. LOL.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on March 30, 2011
at 05:36 PM

300 g/d could be called metabolism hijacking death sentence carbs.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on March 30, 2011
at 02:17 PM

Oh, I don't know. I'm also making it up! There's probably a tiny bit of glycogen in muscle meat, so "zero carb" is almost certainly a misnomer, but I'm sure under 5g is doable.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on March 30, 2011
at 02:11 PM

Thank you! I didn't even know if 5 was feasible, LOL. I figured I skewed a bit high, but like I mentioned to mari, once you get to moderate it's probably more of a % thing.

29686e6867f73a7deee8bf0578cb2107

(68)

on March 30, 2011
at 03:53 AM

Note that the Atkins induction phase dictates 20g of carbs, which is probably why 20 keeps coming up. A lot of people now have that hardwired into their brains.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on March 30, 2011
at 01:53 AM

I always count total carbs, not net. Net just seems like cheating to me. ;)

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on March 30, 2011
at 01:52 AM

I know, Travis! I almost added in something like that!

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7314)

on March 30, 2011
at 12:15 AM

That's true, I didn't think of that. Ah well, I'm not gonna stress :)

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on March 29, 2011
at 11:47 PM

The nutrition facts on any food label states that we should be eating 300g/d. We should call that SAD Carb or something.

Aebee51dc2b93b209980a89fa4a70c1e

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on March 29, 2011
at 10:53 PM

Sounds right to me!

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on March 29, 2011
at 10:33 PM

I almost think at some point it should be more % of calories than grams? I eat pretty low cal, so my 75 grams is probably equal percentage-wise to your 100/150 grams.

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100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on March 30, 2011
at 02:08 PM

Sounds more or less right to me, too. Though I might put ZC at 5, VLC at 20, and LC at 30. There is no official answer, only informal consensus, so it's soft.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on March 30, 2011
at 02:11 PM

Thank you! I didn't even know if 5 was feasible, LOL. I figured I skewed a bit high, but like I mentioned to mari, once you get to moderate it's probably more of a % thing.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on March 30, 2011
at 02:17 PM

Oh, I don't know. I'm also making it up! There's probably a tiny bit of glycogen in muscle meat, so "zero carb" is almost certainly a misnomer, but I'm sure under 5g is doable.

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98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

on March 30, 2011
at 01:45 AM

I pretty much agree with your figures Melissa. I think the low carb community would say VLC = under 20.

The other question I have had is are these net or total carbs? In the LC community people specify but it seems there is come common understanding within the Paleo community because I never see anyone specify. I just don't know what that is.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on March 30, 2011
at 01:53 AM

I always count total carbs, not net. Net just seems like cheating to me. ;)

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9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

on March 30, 2011
at 01:13 AM

Sounds right - I'm doing "Low Carb" for weight loss now and plan on heading up into the Moderate range for maintenance once I lose these 40 pounds. So far, so good :)

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Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7314)

on March 29, 2011
at 10:30 PM

That seems about right. I've heard 20 or less for VLC, but honestly that's just nitpicking and it really doesn't matter. I do consider myself "moderate carb" though, with 100-150g a day.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on March 29, 2011
at 10:33 PM

I almost think at some point it should be more % of calories than grams? I eat pretty low cal, so my 75 grams is probably equal percentage-wise to your 100/150 grams.

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7314)

on March 30, 2011
at 12:15 AM

That's true, I didn't think of that. Ah well, I'm not gonna stress :)

29686e6867f73a7deee8bf0578cb2107

(68)

on March 30, 2011
at 03:53 AM

Note that the Atkins induction phase dictates 20g of carbs, which is probably why 20 keeps coming up. A lot of people now have that hardwired into their brains.

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0425dfe4b5f5a87181043a542f4d29f6

on November 11, 2012
at 02:36 AM

Here's a full chart breakdown of carb consumption safe zones depending upon your desired results: http://deansdailydose.com/2012/10/26/carb-consumption-safe-zone/

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Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on March 30, 2011
at 04:48 PM

I tracked everything I put into my mouth from Aug 21, 2010 to Dec 21, 2010 and counted the carbs.

When I was consciously watching my carb intake, I was hovering around 20-30g per day for several weeks with a low of 14g. Then I raised it a bit and was averaging about 60 carbs per day, and it definitely still seemed low carb to me.

Here's my estimations based on my personal tracking:

Zero Carb = 10 or less

VLC = 30 or less

Low Carb = 70 or less

Moderate Carb = 150 or less

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Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

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on November 11, 2012
at 02:45 AM

Taller individuals and those with more muscle mass will have a higher threshold for carbs than shorter individuals and those with less muscle. Maybe thats why Kronk increased the limits, and Ambimorph decreased them?

Those who eat fewer calories overall will have a lower threshold as well.

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