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Thoughts on TCM "blood stagnation"? Causes, remedys?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 31, 2012 at 3:05 AM

I just posted another question about this, but after further reflection and research, I'm changing the angle of my inquiry.

Recently (past week or so) I've been having pain in my hands and feet, especially in the palms and arches, which I would notice particularly when I would lay down to sleep.

Just now I was sitting down and reading when I noticed that I could "push" the pain out of my hands by extending "ki" through them as we do in aikido practice. I could actually feel the pain move from the base of my palms, along the fingers to the tips, and then away. When I stopped extending my "ki" I could feel the pain creep back along my fingers to my palms and even to my elbows.

This was enough to convince me to do some googling on chi, TCM and hand and foot pain. "Blood stagnation" seems to be the best fit for my symptoms.

Does anyone have any idea what could be a cause of blood stagnation?

I did give blood two or three weeks ago. I have also been under work stress for the past week and a half. In terms of dietary changes, I've been eating a bunch of fermented vegetables that recently matured, especially kimchi and beets, I've been drinking about a cup or cup and a half of kefir daily, and I've been compulsively eating coconut butter by the spoonful...

I have a history of digestive issues which are mostly resolved, but still have food sensitivities (fruit, nuts, chocolate) that bring on acne which lead me to believe that my gut is still leaky and/or my liver may not functioning on all cylinders.

If "blood stagnation" is the root of the pain, what are some simple things that can be done to try and resolve it?

Thanks for any insight you can offer!

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on June 11, 2013
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I ended up going to a TCM practitioner for a few months. His evaluation was stagnant liver chi. Some of the things he did slightly improved the situation, but he was unable to resolve it. The chi stagnation diet was a spectacular failure. (Too low fat) I'm currently taking the FDN course and have uncovered some stressors, the biggest of which is a whole bunch of copper (from our pipes) which was no doubt stressing my liver. I never gave crests any thought before. I have big moon crests on my thumbs and very small moons on the other fingers of my right hand only. Only my thumb on the left.

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on September 07, 2012
at 05:15 PM

I've done some reading on TCM spleen issues recently. A whole host of life-long health issues I have seem like they could be rooted in the spleen. Thanks for the tip! I'm going to have to find a good TCM practitioner in my area.

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on September 01, 2012
at 02:36 AM

i wonder what would happen if you cut out the fermented foods/drinks? not the usual advice, i know. but i wonder.

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on August 31, 2012
at 10:08 AM

If you think it's blood stagnation, I would go to a tcm practitioner, since stagnant blood can be in the organs, in the meridians, it can be hot, or cold etc. It can also be caused by different things, long lasting blood deficiency for example.

You could try some qigong ( a good book like qigong empowerment might help), if you don't want to go to see a practitioner, you probably know the healing sounds since you have looked into this, and do aikido?

It's usually treated with treating some spleen, and some stomach points in acupuncture, so you might right that it goes back to your spleen (food sensitivities), but the spleen problems usually go back to the liver, and that's where it starts, so I would look into opening the liver channel?

Some daily liver qigong, avoiding fatty foods and too much protein, walking in nature, meditation? If you have been doing LC, I have to say, that people doing LC always usually end up in having a stagnant liver, often blood deficiency, and spleen problems. Liver/spleen/blood as in tcm, not the western notion of liver etc.

747f9c27424619fe3ae717c7455c292e

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on September 07, 2012
at 05:15 PM

I've done some reading on TCM spleen issues recently. A whole host of life-long health issues I have seem like they could be rooted in the spleen. Thanks for the tip! I'm going to have to find a good TCM practitioner in my area.

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on June 10, 2013
at 07:55 PM

I just came back from a TCM doctor and he gave me a dry tea concoction comprising of 27 different ingredients. Do you have moon crests on all yor fingernails? They each represent an organ or function. I notice I only have moon crests on my thumbs (lung & spleen). And I just realized that my other fingers use to have crescents. He checked my tongue, back and front of hand, checked pulse and asked a lot of questions.

I feel crappy and my cholesterol is "dangerously" high after nearly a year on paleo. So I resorting back to MY ancestral method (Asian) but integrating some paleo foundation such as organic, grass-fed, free-range, etc.

Hope you check out the inflammation because it sound similar to me

747f9c27424619fe3ae717c7455c292e

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on June 11, 2013
at 02:22 AM

I ended up going to a TCM practitioner for a few months. His evaluation was stagnant liver chi. Some of the things he did slightly improved the situation, but he was unable to resolve it. The chi stagnation diet was a spectacular failure. (Too low fat) I'm currently taking the FDN course and have uncovered some stressors, the biggest of which is a whole bunch of copper (from our pipes) which was no doubt stressing my liver. I never gave crests any thought before. I have big moon crests on my thumbs and very small moons on the other fingers of my right hand only. Only my thumb on the left.

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