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Still having digestive problems & abnormal Blood work

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 12, 2013 at 12:35 AM

I've been getting blood work over the past month and readings continuously show elevated liver enzymes. I also have a heaviness to my side that's "There", but I wouldn't call it pain. More like "Very Mild" discomfort.

Before I was eating very lean meats and a lot of nuts which I was told to change up. Digestion has gotten a bit better. Stools have hardened up a bit, but here is what I've changed my diet to so far. Keep in mind I am VERY active. I do the gym 5 days a week and am constantly walking around a college campus:

Diet:

Breakfast: 1 Whole Egg, 1 Cup of Egg whites, handful of spinach, 2 cups of chopped broccoli, 1 /4th of avocado, 1 tablespoon of Extra virgin olive, 8oz Sweet Potato

Lunch: 6oz Salmon, 2 cups of Broccoli, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, 1/4th of Avocado, 8oz sweet potato

Dinner 4oz Grass feed beef patty, 2 cups of Broccoli, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, 1/4th of Avocado, 8oz sweet potato

Bedtime Snack: 1 Whole Avocado (I make Chocolate pudding with it! :) Tate amazing.

I'm not trying to lose any weight with Paleo. I'm at 140 and I'd like to stay here. I wouldn't mind gaining 1 or 2 pounds. With my active lifestyle, I wanna have fuel for my body, but don't want to eat a bunch of carbohydrates. Should I eat more fats? My doctors keep telling me to cut back the protein, but I can hardly imagine eating any less.

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on April 12, 2013
at 05:48 PM

Did you get tested for hepatitis?

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on April 12, 2013
at 05:36 PM

If you didn't have problems with digestion I'd say have as much as you want, but I have found that with those cruciferous veggies there can be too much of a good thing, and I personally turn into a bloaty mess if I have more than a couple of servings a day. It sounds like you could use more of a binder beyond sweet potato in there somewhere. You might be good candidate for paleo baked goods. Shredded coconut is a really good and fibrous binder, some macaroons or those Oskri bar things might help. It is also possible to have a food sensitivity or allergy to anything, so mix it up and see.

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on April 12, 2013
at 01:08 PM

>"... I also have a heaviness to my side that's "There"..." I suggest you see a doctor.

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on April 12, 2013
at 10:52 AM

As I understand it, most folks have issues with the egg whites. NooMoahk makes a good point about them below.

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

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on April 12, 2013
at 03:04 AM

Also, raw cruciferous vegetables like broccoli contain goitrogens. These are thyroid inhibiting and thyroid inhibition is not a good thing metabolically.

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on April 12, 2013
at 03:03 AM

Eating carrot fiber, away from meals, I have the opposite effect. My stool varies between softer and harder but it always sinks and the fats I eat seem to be fully digested. I highly suggest the carrot, but not with your main food. Fiber basically has negative nutrient value except for the fatty acids made by fermenting it. Check out this study on carrots: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/32/9/1889.full.pdf+html

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

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on April 12, 2013
at 02:59 AM

Maybe, but really you can't break down the fiber. When bacteria break it down, through fermentation, endotoxin and various metabolic products are formed. These products have to be detoxed through your liver and additionally vegetables(especially raw) have substances which are toxic because they don't want to be eaten. Additionaly, the fiber can bind nutrients making them harder to digest. I know that when I was eating lots of greens and fats together my stool was grenn and softer, but it floated. This would indicate that I wasn't digesting the fat I consumed with the fiber.

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on April 12, 2013
at 02:46 AM

Do you think that hard to digest foods like broccoli could be "taxing" on my liver, causing my enzymes to rise? Like you said, it's a lot of fiber and a lot of to break down. Could high readings just mean that my liver is very active in trying to break down what I'm eating?

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

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on April 12, 2013
at 02:31 AM

My guess is the ferment-able fiber causes the gas. Try replacing the broccoli with raw carrots(which are resistant to fermentation) and see if it improves. I would just eat more meats/eggs/fish for fullness instead of the fibrous vegetables which would also allow you to eat less purified fats for your caloric needs. Oils aren't very voluminous.

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on April 12, 2013
at 02:05 AM

I know. But I really rely on that fiber to give me that full feeling though.haha. What would be a recommended serving size to cut it down 2? would 3 cups a day be okay?

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on April 12, 2013
at 02:03 AM

I'm eating roughly 2500 calories a day, but I was concerned with "How much" fat I was eating. I had a nutritionist tell me to cut back the fat(which I think is bull) because that could be send me into liver failure. Besides heaviness in my right side, the only digestive problems I really have is occasional days of bad gas and my stools tend to me soft and green. Not quite diarrhea though. I eat the fiber cause it keeps me full.

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on April 12, 2013
at 02:00 AM

I don't think I do. I never get any bloating symptoms after eating eggs and I only eat 1 yolk a day.

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at 01:59 AM

I think I do. I only have 1 egg yolk a day and it hasn't been causing me any problems.

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on April 12, 2013
at 01:58 AM

6 cups per day is a helluva lot of broccoli, that is the first thing I'd play with. Whole eggs might agree with you tummy better too.

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on April 12, 2013
at 02:05 AM

I know. But I really rely on that fiber to give me that full feeling though.haha. What would be a recommended serving size to cut it down 2? would 3 cups a day be okay?

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 12, 2013
at 05:36 PM

If you didn't have problems with digestion I'd say have as much as you want, but I have found that with those cruciferous veggies there can be too much of a good thing, and I personally turn into a bloaty mess if I have more than a couple of servings a day. It sounds like you could use more of a binder beyond sweet potato in there somewhere. You might be good candidate for paleo baked goods. Shredded coconut is a really good and fibrous binder, some macaroons or those Oskri bar things might help. It is also possible to have a food sensitivity or allergy to anything, so mix it up and see.

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on July 25, 2013
at 12:34 PM

Old thread i know, and hopefully you've sorted things out a bit, but on reading your account it sounds to me like you could consider pancreatitis/acute or chronic pancreas inflammation. if you have steatorrhea/fatty stools then this could be indicated...

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on April 13, 2013
at 11:49 PM

(1) Consider taking enzymes. Broccoli is one food I HAVE to take enzymes to digest well.

(2) Where on your ride side is the pain exactly? Upper right? Middle right? Lower right? Around the side, or more toward the middle (in relation to your navel)?

(3) Have you discussed with a doc the possible causes of elevated liver enzymes? There are so many. Are you on any prescription or OTC (even pain relievers) that might be causing it? Are your levels just slightly elevated, or to the roof?

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on April 13, 2013
at 09:35 PM

some people react this way from consuming excessive raw foods. if you are eating 6 cups of raw broccoli a day, everyday, this could be taking a toll on an already tired liver. there are plenty of great reasons to eat raw foods however certain people cannot tolerate large quantities and you may just be one of them.

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33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

on April 12, 2013
at 01:47 AM

First, I would make sure to eat egg yolks rather than whites. Eat the whole egg if you want to but eating just the whites is not so beneficial, and is lacking vitamins. What sort of digestive problems are you having? You are eating a ton of fiber, which gives me major constipation/gas/bloating.

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

(502)

on April 12, 2013
at 02:31 AM

My guess is the ferment-able fiber causes the gas. Try replacing the broccoli with raw carrots(which are resistant to fermentation) and see if it improves. I would just eat more meats/eggs/fish for fullness instead of the fibrous vegetables which would also allow you to eat less purified fats for your caloric needs. Oils aren't very voluminous.

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

(502)

on April 12, 2013
at 03:03 AM

Eating carrot fiber, away from meals, I have the opposite effect. My stool varies between softer and harder but it always sinks and the fats I eat seem to be fully digested. I highly suggest the carrot, but not with your main food. Fiber basically has negative nutrient value except for the fatty acids made by fermenting it. Check out this study on carrots: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/32/9/1889.full.pdf+html

8e6b11bdc9cf9b520192289296b3ead5

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on April 12, 2013
at 02:46 AM

Do you think that hard to digest foods like broccoli could be "taxing" on my liver, causing my enzymes to rise? Like you said, it's a lot of fiber and a lot of to break down. Could high readings just mean that my liver is very active in trying to break down what I'm eating?

8e6b11bdc9cf9b520192289296b3ead5

(0)

on April 12, 2013
at 02:03 AM

I'm eating roughly 2500 calories a day, but I was concerned with "How much" fat I was eating. I had a nutritionist tell me to cut back the fat(which I think is bull) because that could be send me into liver failure. Besides heaviness in my right side, the only digestive problems I really have is occasional days of bad gas and my stools tend to me soft and green. Not quite diarrhea though. I eat the fiber cause it keeps me full.

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

(502)

on April 12, 2013
at 03:04 AM

Also, raw cruciferous vegetables like broccoli contain goitrogens. These are thyroid inhibiting and thyroid inhibition is not a good thing metabolically.

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

(502)

on April 12, 2013
at 02:59 AM

Maybe, but really you can't break down the fiber. When bacteria break it down, through fermentation, endotoxin and various metabolic products are formed. These products have to be detoxed through your liver and additionally vegetables(especially raw) have substances which are toxic because they don't want to be eaten. Additionaly, the fiber can bind nutrients making them harder to digest. I know that when I was eating lots of greens and fats together my stool was grenn and softer, but it floated. This would indicate that I wasn't digesting the fat I consumed with the fiber.

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Fce356005a83353009c11567c217a9bd

on April 12, 2013
at 01:11 AM

Do you tolerate eggs well? Try removing the eggs (including egg whites) for a few weeks.

8e6b11bdc9cf9b520192289296b3ead5

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on April 12, 2013
at 01:59 AM

I think I do. I only have 1 egg yolk a day and it hasn't been causing me any problems.

8e6b11bdc9cf9b520192289296b3ead5

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on April 12, 2013
at 02:00 AM

I don't think I do. I never get any bloating symptoms after eating eggs and I only eat 1 yolk a day.

Fce356005a83353009c11567c217a9bd

on April 12, 2013
at 10:52 AM

As I understand it, most folks have issues with the egg whites. NooMoahk makes a good point about them below.

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