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What has more impact: eliminating the "bad" or adding the "good"?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 07, 2011 at 8:21 PM

I hope this is not too "loose" of a question.

I was wondering what your experiences are regarding elimination vs. addition. For example, it seems to me that eliminating grains has more impact than say adding liver to your diet. Or, adding an additional workout may have more impact than subtracting two. (I'll let you all place the "positive" and "negatives" where you think they apply.

Recently I eliminated the long treadmill (moderate pace) walk I would take while my kids nap (this was on top of my am workout) and have reaped nothing but positive benefits.

What have you added or subtracted from your lifestyle (diet, exercise, whatever) that has had the most impact?

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on June 08, 2011
at 08:46 PM

Oh, I'm definitely better off the wheat - it's just that dairy = almost instant pain and illness, whereas wheat wasn't as intense. Certainly contributed to my IBS issues though. If I was advising anyone else, I'd say wheat at the top of the list

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on June 08, 2011
at 07:01 PM

Some people (like Stephan Guyenet) are apparently not negatively affected by wheat consumption. Alas, I am not one of them, although I have never gone to the trouble of soaking/sprouting/fermenting and I probably never will.

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on June 08, 2011
at 06:41 AM

Choose life :)

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on June 08, 2011
at 06:01 AM

I already knew I was dairy intolerant - that's the only reason Alex. I eliminated it years ago. Eliminating wheat came from educating myself, not from clear cause and effect

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on June 08, 2011
at 02:38 AM

Eliminate dairy before wheat? What is your reasoning for this?

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on June 08, 2011
at 02:37 AM

I would disagree and eliminate seed oils before ethanol (unless you're a chronic alcoholic). A few glasses of red wine is probably more beneficial than it is detrimental.

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on June 08, 2011
at 12:00 AM

Well, those too - but I meant in the ingredients list E360, 475 etc.

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on June 07, 2011
at 11:51 PM

"Eliminate 'foods' that are made up of numbers"? Oh, you mean like 7up, A1 sauce, Heinz 57 and Total??

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on June 07, 2011
at 09:10 PM

Right on! I agree. Sometimes I think I spend too much time tinkering with the lug nuts and forget that the engine's blown! (Will the analogies never end???)

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at 08:47 PM

I (heart) analytical minds. This is the type of bulleted list "hack" that really cuts to the chase. Thanks!

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on June 07, 2011
at 08:29 PM

Eliminating the "bad" can be far more advantageous than adding the "good" - your example of eliminating wheat from your diet having more of an impact than adding liver is spot-on. When I talk to people about my diet, I simply tell them that they will see more benefit from eliminating grains, soy, industrial seed oils and sugars more than anything else, and this is true. Everything else - low carb, high starch, making bone broths, working out, whatever, can come later.

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on June 07, 2011
at 09:10 PM

Right on! I agree. Sometimes I think I spend too much time tinkering with the lug nuts and forget that the engine's blown! (Will the analogies never end???)

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on June 07, 2011
at 08:41 PM

It would depend on the volume and potency of the toxins you're eliminating vs. the extent to which you are deficient in something that is being addressed by adding in, say, liver. There are too many variables, but if I had to put steps in the order that I think would benefit the average person, it would be this:

Eliminate tobacco
Eliminate fructose
Eliminate ethanol
Add vitamin D3/K2
Eliminate seed oils
Add liver
Eliminate wheat
Add sleep
Eliminate legumes
Add weight lifting
Add walking

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on June 07, 2011
at 08:47 PM

I (heart) analytical minds. This is the type of bulleted list "hack" that really cuts to the chase. Thanks!

91219405abedbfd400ce00dea242a00f

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on June 08, 2011
at 02:37 AM

I would disagree and eliminate seed oils before ethanol (unless you're a chronic alcoholic). A few glasses of red wine is probably more beneficial than it is detrimental.

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on June 08, 2011
at 06:41 AM

Choose life :)

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on June 07, 2011
at 10:00 PM

nobrainer: "eliminating the bad", of course...

on a side note, the more i'm tinkering with my WOE (and by extension lifestyle in general) the more i tend to think that we need much much less food then it is generally thought, and much much less frequently - ability to eat once in two days or so is so liberating!

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on June 07, 2011
at 09:45 PM

This has to be answered by each person individually.

Some people reap amazing benefits from cutting gluten. I didn't.

For someone sensitive to MSG, aspertame, food colouring or whatever, elimating that one thing might make a huge difference.

On the other hand, if you are very deficient in one particular nutrient, and get that by eating liver or whatever, that may change your life.

I say it doesn't matter if you add or eliminate. Each change is a small (or big) step in the right direction.

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on June 07, 2011
at 09:45 PM

It depends, for some of them; you can see getting more sleep as "adding sleep" or "removing sleep deprivation."

Adding sleep

Removing wheat

Add meat

Adding walking

Removing processed meats

Adding sprinting

This is a rough bit of what I'd say are some of the top things, with a ton more things less important

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on June 07, 2011
at 09:42 PM

In my opinion, eliminating the "bad" elements from the diet are far more important than adding the "good". For example, someone who takes fish oil but eats a S.A.D diet will un-do some of the oxidative damage that the diet ensures.....but not all of it. It may make a small positive difference, but not nearly as much as someone eating a Paleo/Primal type of diet AND taking fish oil.

It's like eating at McDonald's, but drinking a diet coke instead of a regular coke....it's just not enough.

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on June 07, 2011
at 09:34 PM

Good list, Travis. Mine would be a bit different:

Eliminate dairy
Eliminate wheat
Add daily meat
Eliminate seed oils
Add sleep
Eliminate 'foods' that are made up of numbers
Eliminate other grains
Eliminate soy products
Add coconut products
Eliminate nuts

792634a784ec6a636c3137d0903e11b4

(1196)

on June 08, 2011
at 12:00 AM

Well, those too - but I meant in the ingredients list E360, 475 etc.

91219405abedbfd400ce00dea242a00f

(1044)

on June 08, 2011
at 02:38 AM

Eliminate dairy before wheat? What is your reasoning for this?

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on June 08, 2011
at 07:01 PM

Some people (like Stephan Guyenet) are apparently not negatively affected by wheat consumption. Alas, I am not one of them, although I have never gone to the trouble of soaking/sprouting/fermenting and I probably never will.

792634a784ec6a636c3137d0903e11b4

(1196)

on June 08, 2011
at 06:01 AM

I already knew I was dairy intolerant - that's the only reason Alex. I eliminated it years ago. Eliminating wheat came from educating myself, not from clear cause and effect

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on June 07, 2011
at 11:51 PM

"Eliminate 'foods' that are made up of numbers"? Oh, you mean like 7up, A1 sauce, Heinz 57 and Total??

792634a784ec6a636c3137d0903e11b4

(1196)

on June 08, 2011
at 08:46 PM

Oh, I'm definitely better off the wheat - it's just that dairy = almost instant pain and illness, whereas wheat wasn't as intense. Certainly contributed to my IBS issues though. If I was advising anyone else, I'd say wheat at the top of the list

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