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Where on this chart are you?

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Created April 28, 2013 at 1:57 PM

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Where on this chart are you? Be honest. I'm just past the red line and falling fast. Also, feel free to link to any examples of PaleoHacks questions that fall on either extreme...or to questions that just make us question why we do what we do and how much we do it. Any advice for saying "enough" and walking away?

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on April 28, 2013
at 06:14 PM

Dont feel stupid - you're empowered! You tried one way and didn't like it. Check that off the list. Remember, you can do anything if you break it into small enough chunks. Just keep going. (Insert tortoise and hare fable here...).:)

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on April 28, 2013
at 05:44 PM

Not having a hard and fast way to go about things does seem to be the best way to go about things—now I feel stupid. Anyway, thanks :)

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on April 28, 2013
at 03:16 PM

My bad, I should have been more clear. I meant to discuss the situations in which people put forth social, financial, etc. lives in exchange for "perfect" health.

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32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

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on April 28, 2013
at 05:17 PM

I can't say that I would apply diminishing returns to my paleo experience. But maybe that's bc of the way I've pursued it? I usually take 1 small aspect, invest in it for about a month of research, then a month of application where I really have to think about it. After that, it gradually starts to become a habit. When I'm not really thinking about it anymore, I usually pick something else to change. This adjustment time take anywhere from 2 months to about 6 months.

Here is how I've broken down my paleo lifestyle change:

-learn to make 100% paleo breakfasts. find 7 days of meals that I love, are easy, and cook them every week until I can do it without thinking

-do the same for dinner, then lunch, and snacks; total transition for all these meals was about a year; still tweak occasionally

-tweak diet for specific health concerns that arose; this took about 4 months

-convert kid-specific meals to paleo; help them find new snacks they love; 4ish months

-intro exercise. I started crossfit. I spent 6 months just making sure I went 2x a week.

-next, intro daily (leisurely) exercise, like walking, cycling, rollerblading

-etc

No magic order here, just doing what seemed to come next. I think people try to do too much, don't see change, and get frustrated before they really get ANY returns. Focus your energy on ONE thing you know you can change.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 28, 2013
at 06:14 PM

Dont feel stupid - you're empowered! You tried one way and didn't like it. Check that off the list. Remember, you can do anything if you break it into small enough chunks. Just keep going. (Insert tortoise and hare fable here...).:)

10121ac7b6beb99c0fbfbf1522c50adb

(1193)

on April 28, 2013
at 05:44 PM

Not having a hard and fast way to go about things does seem to be the best way to go about things—now I feel stupid. Anyway, thanks :)

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on April 28, 2013
at 02:35 PM

You don't state it explicitly, but I take it your "diminishing returns" are in regards to "paleo" related life?

I don't think many people can put paleo related endeavors fairly on the graph of diminishing returns. Mainly because most of the health and fitness type goals people attempt to achieve aren't productive processes. In other words, many people want to gain or lose mass - say it's weight loss; if you lose 30lbs "on paleo", and achieve your goal weight, you no longer have costs related to weight loss, but the cost change to maintenance costs.

Personally, money and time have plateaued for me, while I'm still reaping benefits the more energy I put in - energy that I probably wouldn't have had without some adherence to a paleo-ish lifestyle.

I think maybe what you are alluding to is the "Graph of Disillusionment"?

where-on-this-chart-are-you?

... because the goal isn't to literally be zero pounds (or grow infinitely if you are a mass gainer), the goal is the achieve peak health or whatever is optimal for your pursuit. I think the fine attenuation in the "Plateau of Productivity" describes "diminishing returns" of paleo more accurately than the "Law of Diminishing Returns" does.

However, within the realm of paleo, I think the "Law of Diminishing Returns" does happen - especially regarding exercise, where I can chart how long it takes my body to adjust, stop improving, and even begin to regress on a nearly perfect 8 week cycle, so I just keep switching my exercise up.

Summary: I don't think the "Law of Diminishing Returns" applies to "paleo" in a grand sense, but I believe it can be applied to some specific pursuits that better fit the model of time/money/energy v. returns.

10121ac7b6beb99c0fbfbf1522c50adb

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on April 28, 2013
at 03:16 PM

My bad, I should have been more clear. I meant to discuss the situations in which people put forth social, financial, etc. lives in exchange for "perfect" health.

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on April 28, 2013
at 02:45 PM

My advice is get a job. During a period of unemployment I got way too fixated, obsessed, orthorexic, call it what you will... When I got a job again, my time was so pressurised I didn't have time to be all those things any more. Then it became about whether I have good habits or not. No time to think, just do aligned with habitual patterns. I have also been on PaleoHacks far less frequently, and have little desire to even bother reading 90% of the questions or answers...

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