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Feeling Cold continually on Leptin Reset

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created February 05, 2012 at 8:53 PM

I weigh 190, lost 40 pounds before LR and need to lose 50 more. I have been doing the Leptin reset for 3 weeks faithfully. I am very happy with it except I feel cold all the time, even under lots of blankets at night. Am also taking fish oil, PQQ, vitamin C, and several other vitamins. Any suggestions?

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on March 08, 2012
at 05:37 PM

Quilt, do you even know what epigenetics means?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on February 07, 2012
at 01:21 PM

Melissa the epigenetic program is hardwired into all of humans for several reasons......one we are all descended from eutherian mammals and two the program has been proven to work by NASA and they use it for the astronauts. There are elite athletes who use it too to increase performance and the Sherpas also constantly use the pathways. These are all modern day humans. Many do not know about it because they do not live in an environment that causes this program to go live and they eat guaranteeing that it won't activate. This is precisely how Michael Phelphs got his edge.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on February 07, 2012
at 03:47 AM

its a sign of epigenetic change for the better.

B6114a1980b1481fb18206064f3f4a4f

(3924)

on February 06, 2012
at 08:42 PM

It makes sense to me if this signifies a temporary metabolism change that will eventually lead to some type of healing of your metabolism (and no longer feeling cold . . .). I've had numerous health problems in my life and unfortunately many of them required discomfort during part of the healing process. As long as you feel like you are healing and your discomfort is normal and part of that healing process, this is not necessarily something to avoid or stop.

B6114a1980b1481fb18206064f3f4a4f

(3924)

on February 06, 2012
at 08:37 PM

Okay, I get why it's good that we feel cold while doing the leptin reset. But why do we feel cold in the first place? Is feeling cold a sign that we are doing the reset correctly and changes are taking place in our metabolism? I really thought I was going crazy until Jo mentioned this.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on February 06, 2012
at 07:58 PM

The Quilt weaves his facts into a narrative to explain away whatever he needs to.

B1859f696e88d25460a6b8a333412ea3

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on February 06, 2012
at 05:36 PM

I think it's odd, because in Jacks own words - one sign that leptin is "reset" is when: "Changes in energy and sleep: Over 6-12 months, expect your energy to gradually improve. You will feel warmer and exude body heat, but your body temperature will actually be lower. It will continue to trend lower over the next 18-24 months while you thyroid settles into its new biologic groove. Dramatic improvements will be made in your sleep. Both migraines and muscle soreness from exercise will decrease."

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on February 06, 2012
at 03:03 PM

yes, but they have different metabolisms than you or I because of unique genetic adaptations. see the work of William Leonard on the metabolism of Siberians.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on February 06, 2012
at 02:38 PM

you keep believing that cliff because its not true Inuit and emperor penguins do not eat much glucose and they do quite well and are long lived on their natural diets and have excellent thyroid function.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on February 06, 2012
at 01:43 PM

Cold body temperatures=cold environment? If you don't have enough glucose you won't make t3, you get cold.

C00e493393828df34be65ddc25456c7c

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on February 06, 2012
at 12:07 PM

Very hard to understand what you are saying. We don't known whether OP is in hot or cold climate ATM.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on February 06, 2012
at 03:30 AM

Jo, something else that may be worth knowing (to assist with answers), is your average morning oral body temperature. there are different views on the meaning and/or relevance of body temperature readings. whatever the different views, it would be interesting to know if your actual oral body temp has any correlation to you feeling cold. Just take your under tongue temp on rising in the morning before you eat, drink or clean your teeth

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on February 06, 2012
at 03:18 AM

Jo, something else that may be worth knowing (to assist with answers), is you average morning oral body temperature. there are different views on the meaning and relevance of body temperature. anyway it would be interesting to know if your actual oral body temp has any correlation to you feeling cold. Just take your under tongue temp on rising in the morning before you eat, drink or clean your teeth.

B6114a1980b1481fb18206064f3f4a4f

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on February 06, 2012
at 03:10 AM

I'm with you here!!! I've been doing the Leptin Reset for four weeks and I'm cold all the time. Weird.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on February 06, 2012
at 03:07 AM

Hi Jo, looking at some of the answers, it seems it would be pertinent to know what your local climate is like at the moment (are you currently in Winter or Summer).

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on February 06, 2012
at 02:05 AM

see my comment on here why. This is the most over used excuse in the paleo sphere.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on February 06, 2012
at 01:47 AM

Why is being cold all the time a good sign?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on February 06, 2012
at 01:38 AM

totally not true in cold environments.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on February 06, 2012
at 12:22 AM

Comprehensive and informative answers as ever Quilt.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on February 05, 2012
at 11:24 PM

good sign......cold is what you want.

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5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on February 05, 2012
at 09:17 PM

You checked your calories? If you're feeling cold, could be your body's not feeling that it's getting enough.

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24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on February 06, 2012
at 02:55 PM

I don't know about anyone else here, but there is no more uncomfortable feeling for me than feeling cold and unable to warm up. This has happened to me periodically all my life -- lean, obese, high carb, low carb, etc. The absolute last thing I would do would be to continue some way of eating that made me feel this way.

Jack says "good" you want to feel cold. Does that sound right to anyone? Not me.

B1859f696e88d25460a6b8a333412ea3

(837)

on February 06, 2012
at 05:36 PM

I think it's odd, because in Jacks own words - one sign that leptin is "reset" is when: "Changes in energy and sleep: Over 6-12 months, expect your energy to gradually improve. You will feel warmer and exude body heat, but your body temperature will actually be lower. It will continue to trend lower over the next 18-24 months while you thyroid settles into its new biologic groove. Dramatic improvements will be made in your sleep. Both migraines and muscle soreness from exercise will decrease."

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on February 06, 2012
at 07:58 PM

The Quilt weaves his facts into a narrative to explain away whatever he needs to.

B6114a1980b1481fb18206064f3f4a4f

(3924)

on February 06, 2012
at 08:42 PM

It makes sense to me if this signifies a temporary metabolism change that will eventually lead to some type of healing of your metabolism (and no longer feeling cold . . .). I've had numerous health problems in my life and unfortunately many of them required discomfort during part of the healing process. As long as you feel like you are healing and your discomfort is normal and part of that healing process, this is not necessarily something to avoid or stop.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on February 06, 2012
at 02:04 AM

leptin (sensitivity) increases CRH expression and the activity of CRH neurons (fed state) or decreases CRH expression and activity of CRH neurons (fasted state) So when we are fed cortisol levels raise normally in regular environments??????..if we over eat we get hypercortisolism as a result of LR. If we fast in the same environment, leptin levels are normally low and cortisol levels also will be low. In anorexia this is completely reversed biochemically.

The real kicker is in cold environments cortisol is low and so is leptin.

In normal environments, when CRH is activated chronically by high levels of leptin it forces the thyroid to shut down T4 and T3 by forcing creation of high levels of reverse T3 from T4 and T3. In this situation rev T3 acts as a competitive inhibitor to all thyroid hormones. This is what Andreas is talking about above. This is a protective mechanism to the animal.

TRH inhibits food intake acting downstream of the leptin???melanocortin pathway. Moreover, it can be how obesity or chronic stress shuts off our metabolic rate.

The forced formation of rev T3 by cortisol or CRH, however this is NOT activated when cold temperatures are present in the environment because cold will lead to excessive low leptin levels and as a result low CRH levels???..this means low cortisol??????and this response does not shut off the thyroid at all and in fact elevates alpha MSH and b-endorphin and ACTH levels. This activates an ancient pathway found in all eutherian mammals

C00e493393828df34be65ddc25456c7c

(610)

on February 06, 2012
at 12:07 PM

Very hard to understand what you are saying. We don't known whether OP is in hot or cold climate ATM.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on February 06, 2012
at 01:43 PM

Cold body temperatures=cold environment? If you don't have enough glucose you won't make t3, you get cold.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on February 06, 2012
at 03:03 PM

yes, but they have different metabolisms than you or I because of unique genetic adaptations. see the work of William Leonard on the metabolism of Siberians.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on February 06, 2012
at 02:38 PM

you keep believing that cliff because its not true Inuit and emperor penguins do not eat much glucose and they do quite well and are long lived on their natural diets and have excellent thyroid function.

B6114a1980b1481fb18206064f3f4a4f

(3924)

on February 06, 2012
at 08:37 PM

Okay, I get why it's good that we feel cold while doing the leptin reset. But why do we feel cold in the first place? Is feeling cold a sign that we are doing the reset correctly and changes are taking place in our metabolism? I really thought I was going crazy until Jo mentioned this.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on February 07, 2012
at 03:47 AM

its a sign of epigenetic change for the better.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on February 07, 2012
at 01:21 PM

Melissa the epigenetic program is hardwired into all of humans for several reasons......one we are all descended from eutherian mammals and two the program has been proven to work by NASA and they use it for the astronauts. There are elite athletes who use it too to increase performance and the Sherpas also constantly use the pathways. These are all modern day humans. Many do not know about it because they do not live in an environment that causes this program to go live and they eat guaranteeing that it won't activate. This is precisely how Michael Phelphs got his edge.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on March 08, 2012
at 05:37 PM

Quilt, do you even know what epigenetics means?

1
E753cf7753e7be889ca68b1a4203483f

on February 05, 2012
at 11:33 PM

Glucose shortage leads to lowered thyroid activity with reduced amount of active T3 as the result. Low body temperature follows, the reason behind is that the body lovers metabolism in order to preserve lean tissue during the glucose shortage.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on February 06, 2012
at 02:05 AM

see my comment on here why. This is the most over used excuse in the paleo sphere.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on February 06, 2012
at 01:38 AM

totally not true in cold environments.

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