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Anyone found xylitol or other sugar alcohols blocking weight loss and perceptions of sweet?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 13, 2012 at 3:13 AM

Just curious if anyone has had this response to xylitol. Has your sense of sweetness been desensitized by continuing to use sweeteners? When you pull xylitol out do you notice almost everything including veggies like tomatoes and cabbages tastes sweeter? I'm wondering if xylitol affects leptin sensitivity.

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on July 14, 2012
at 01:18 AM

But I guess one should moderate sweet, no matter what the sweetner is anyway, unless one is quite active. That tribe that eats large amounts of fruit and honey isnt fat. Dunno if they get other problems, but seems like from my little bit of reading on HG societies if your very active, sugar and carbs is somewhat less of an issue.

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Raisefitness, I mean, as you seem very fit, I cant imagine a little tiny bit of extra hunger, from a small amount of non-caloric sweetner being any kind of issue for you! But if someone was trying to lose weight, id probably recommend against using alot of non-caloric sweetner myself.

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Personally if I wasnt using glucose for digestive reasons, as a sweetner, id probably be using honey. I dont think one needs to cut off ones tongue because you enjoy a little sweet now an again. There is some sugar in nature - fruits and honey anyway.

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Well my point was more that people who use alot of artificial sugar, such as diet soda drinkers, end up actually eating more, and gaining weight because of the sweetner versus caloric sweetner users, in studies. I dont think small amounts of sugar alcohols is going to kill you. Or that insulin is evil. But one should probably be aware that non-caloric sweetners do stimulate hunger significantly more than table sugar in studies.

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on July 13, 2012
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True that some sweeteners trigger a slight insulin response. By the same respect, smelling a baked cake coming out of a bakery can do the same thing. Our goal is not to minimize insulin, which too many paleo people view as the "evil hormone". Our goal should be to maximize life. There is a balance between loving life and avoiding death. Sort of like they say about Calorie Restriction longevity diets, you live a long and miserable life.

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C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 13, 2012
at 03:50 AM

The only sweetener I use is a little xylitol, and to me everything has tasted sweeter anyway since going primal/paleo. I feel that what desensitized people to sweets is the constant sugary drinks most people have. Since giving up soda, even the sweetener I put in my coffee is less than half what it was. I put less than two grams of xylitol in a large cup with some heavy cream.

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on July 13, 2012
at 02:34 PM

Dr. Volek explains why xylitol is less bad than other sugar alcohols. That doesn't make it good. But if it works for you: N=1. That normal taste perceptions return after you abandon white sugar is indeed common.

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on July 13, 2012
at 10:32 AM

I use glucose as a sweetner ATM (which has less sweetness that sucrose). But since ditching sugar I have noticed everything else tastes much sweeter. Like in carrots & tomatos i noticed sweetness, where I never used to notice any.

As for your sugar alcohol I have no idea on its effects per se.

But artifical sugars still somewat trigger insulin via sweet taste, and in studies seems to increase hunger even more than actual sugars, perhaps because that insulin response via sweetness isnt met with any actual calories.

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 13, 2012
at 01:39 PM

True that some sweeteners trigger a slight insulin response. By the same respect, smelling a baked cake coming out of a bakery can do the same thing. Our goal is not to minimize insulin, which too many paleo people view as the "evil hormone". Our goal should be to maximize life. There is a balance between loving life and avoiding death. Sort of like they say about Calorie Restriction longevity diets, you live a long and miserable life.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 14, 2012
at 01:12 AM

Raisefitness, I mean, as you seem very fit, I cant imagine a little tiny bit of extra hunger, from a small amount of non-caloric sweetner being any kind of issue for you! But if someone was trying to lose weight, id probably recommend against using alot of non-caloric sweetner myself.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

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on July 14, 2012
at 01:09 AM

Personally if I wasnt using glucose for digestive reasons, as a sweetner, id probably be using honey. I dont think one needs to cut off ones tongue because you enjoy a little sweet now an again. There is some sugar in nature - fruits and honey anyway.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 14, 2012
at 01:18 AM

But I guess one should moderate sweet, no matter what the sweetner is anyway, unless one is quite active. That tribe that eats large amounts of fruit and honey isnt fat. Dunno if they get other problems, but seems like from my little bit of reading on HG societies if your very active, sugar and carbs is somewhat less of an issue.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 14, 2012
at 01:04 AM

Well my point was more that people who use alot of artificial sugar, such as diet soda drinkers, end up actually eating more, and gaining weight because of the sweetner versus caloric sweetner users, in studies. I dont think small amounts of sugar alcohols is going to kill you. Or that insulin is evil. But one should probably be aware that non-caloric sweetners do stimulate hunger significantly more than table sugar in studies.

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on July 13, 2012
at 05:11 AM

The only sweetener I use regularly is xylitol, and actually, things taste much sweeter now. I'm lacto-paleo, I suppose, and I'm starting to find sweet things much too sweet. Fruit is actually appealing now, and it never used to be. At least for me, I'll keep the xylitol around for my coffee, for the odd batch of panna cotta, that sort of thing. Sugar is sugar - and for me, I find the regular consumption of a little bit of rice or corn to drive my cravings much more than using a little xylitol in my coffee.

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